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Dakota 02
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6/05/2006
18:57:15
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Hey guys, just looking around the internet for a spacer...but I just don't know which one to go with. Have a cold air intake on the way, already installed Flowmaster 40 series cat back dual. I have an 02 Dakota, 4.7L 5 speed. It has 80k miles. Any help would be appreciated!
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Forseti
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6/05/2006
19:15:01
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The spacer is total CRAP ... WASTE of money ... it does NOTHING for mulit-port fuel injection engines
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Jecht
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6/05/2006
20:14:15
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makes a nice conversation piece on your desk. when someone asks whats that. you can say a waste of money. then explain why =-Þ
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Mr Google
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6/06/2006
01:20:46
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should i?
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Yep
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6/06/2006
13:44:00
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Go for it.
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Mr Google
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6/06/2006
21:39:25
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Dakota 02, do a search for "throttle body spacers" and will find a ga-zillion and 1 opinions on them. most of those opinions, about 99.9999999% of them will be negative. btw, feel free to use any search engine at your disposal.
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reeper
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7/10/2006
20:44:54
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i got the throttle body spacer in my 04 dakota 4.7 it runs great i notice the low end power right off i'd get it again i dont know about these other guys but i like it
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No
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7/10/2006
22:24:43
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Not to be a nay sayer or anything but when you say you can feel a little extra in the low end...I'm sorry but if for some how that actually gave you any power it would be very small and unnoticable. Buy hey if you say it works for you I guess its better than being pissed you wasted your money on a paper weight. I read somewhere on here a very good reason these things dont even work with our setups. Maybe I'll try and find it and let you be enlightend. Sorry but can't recommend one of those. $60 that's about a tank fo gas right?
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ScojoDak
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7/10/2006
23:24:06
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do you mean this tech article?
Throttle Body Spacers (Primarily the "Helix" style):
These spacers do not provide any gains in HP at all. They claim to increase TQ and MPG but we tested one and it gained nothing. The Dyno showed no gains in HP or TQ. We also had contacted one of the manufacturers for their comments on them and here's the direct quote (from email):
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From: AirAid Info
Subject: Re: AIRAID.COM Contact Form
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:20:36 -0700
Dear Sir, thank you for your inquiry in our products. The spacer makes no HP on the Dyno. It makes all of it's power in torque in the low end. If you haven't noticed any power on the Dyno or the track then it's doing what it's supposed to. You would not see any gains down the 1/4 mile or increases on the Dyno. The idea of the spacer is to improve overall drivability and fuel mileage. In most cases when people install a bolt on part they expect better mileage and power, what happens is they are into the throttle a lot more than before trying to test performance and that's when the decrease in mileage happens.
Sincerely,
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Points to look at:
"The spacer makes no HP on the Dyno. It makes all of it's power in torque in the low end."
"If you haven't noticed any power on the Dyno or the track then it's doing what it's supposed to."
"The idea of the spacer is to improve overall drivability and fuel mileage."
So...it doesn't make any more HP, is not supposed to help in 1/4 mile performance (or on the Dyno), and is mainly for mileage and bottom end Torque. Well, Dyno's show TQ figures and there were no changes, mileage stayed the same, and 1/4 mile performance wasn't affected on the several others who have tried it (including us). They also are still not able to explain how the spacer keeps the swirl effect through the two turns (90 degree and 45 degree) in the intake plenum of the Dodge Ram/Dakota/Durango manifolds.
While the Throttle Body Spacer showed no gains on the 3.9/5.2/5.9L Magnum engines, the 4.7L engines have been reported to show noticeable gains from the spacer. Why? It's a much more efficient intake system with less restrictions than the Magnum engines. It may work just fine for the 4.7L crowd but we'll look into this at a later date for Dyno and long term MPG testing.
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Damon
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7/12/2006
18:42:53
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The spacer works best only when combined with the air intake. I have the Air Raid intake and spacer and I love the change it has made in sound and performance. I would go with Air Raid b/c its less expensive and ot works!
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Capt Obvious
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7/12/2006
21:53:53
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Damon, if you believe that, then I have this resistor that will net you a 20 hp gain. this will only cost you $15 plus shipping. you game?
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YEA
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7/12/2006
22:32:46
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Yes that all awesome resistor I picked up at radio shack for $1.00 net me 20hp. While I'm at it I'm goin to add that tornado thing that gets in the way of air flow and maybe I can get one to put in my exhaust so it flows out better!
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Capt Obvious
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7/12/2006
23:26:28
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now that's what i'm talkin bout boys and girls!
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AveryT
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7/17/2006
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Hadn`t thought about addin` tornados to the exhaust. What if you run duals? Do you have to use 2? Will the back pressure be too much on one bank if only one is used? I`m thinking about putting tornados in my a/c vents too. Maybe even covering up the radiator with `em.
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reeper
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7/17/2006
13:57:11
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nice to know that you guys know so much i work out in arizona where airaid is made and i got my cool air intake and my spacer for 200 so it was a good price i have herd and driven trucks like mine with the k&n cool air intake and i have dynotested them the airaid mad a big difrence compaired to the k&n and it was alot cheaper and remeber dyno test very by temp and humidity and you cant compair sh*t unles you do one before you change it and after to get the compleat gain because you dont know what your engine is running i though dodge lied about the horse power on my 4.7 then i pulled the plugs out and sall why ran some fuel injection cleaner through it and put some mobil 1 in and racing plugs and it runs great now i'm putting on a cat back and yes all you out there say it dosent make a diffrence thats why i beat all my friends with just the k&n air filter install the only problem i have with the air aid spacer is the squel it makes form the suction of air that comes into the intake
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GAK
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7/17/2006
14:34:41
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spel chek anyon ?
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TexasTodd
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7/17/2006
17:37:48
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reeper,
Care to post those dynos? Sorry dude, I write with punctuation.
A Before and after dyno, same ambient conditions?
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AveryT
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7/17/2006
22:32:32
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Man, that has to be a record for the longest sentence ever. You could probably see a difference on the dyno with some punctuation and correct spelling.
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Mr Dick
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7/17/2006
23:26:37
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Avery, i was thinking the same thing.
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