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dak287
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10/12/2003
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Bryan,
I just got a 2003 Dakota CC 4x4 with the 4.7 V8.
So far I love it. It's very responsive and sounds great too. It's a 5 speed automatic, so it's shifting all the time. Don't know if that will give me trouble in the future. I bought it to tow an antique car around (3500 lbs.)but haven't gotten a trailer yet so don't know how it will tow yet.
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Don
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10/13/2003
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Hi,
New to the forum, sounds and looks very interesting!
I have had the 5.2's in the past and was very happy with them. I purchased a 2001 Club Cab with the 4.7 and 3.90 rear end. I am desperately looking for a way to improve the low end/torque. Without a load the truck is great! but as soon as I hook on a trailer (and not a very load) it acts like a 4 cylinder! So, to answer your question, be ready for the possibility of an unpleasant experience. Any thoughts or help would be great!
Thanks,
Don
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ErnieQuad03
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10/14/2003
09:55:43
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Both are GREAT in the setup you are looking at. When I test drove mine, I had the following options....Quad Cab 4x4 with:
4.7 Auto w/3.92s
4.7 Manual w/3.55s
5.9 Auto w/3.92s
Like most are saying, the 5.9 clearly has more power comparing Auto to Auto. Lots of low end grunt. I have driven manuals in most every vehicle I have ever owned, and was glad they had a manual setup in the Quad Cab 4x4 so I could try it out. I loved it! The 4.7 Manual had a significant difference in power. It has the 3.55s but I have not had a reason to switch to 3.92s yet...if the need arises I will do so.
Definitely try to test drive those 3 setups. From what I hear, most say it is hard to find a Quad Cab 4x4 with a 5spd manual. The dealer I got mine from here in PA had 2 when I looked at mine and he now has 1 2004 model equipped that way. If you are looking at 2004s though your only option is a 4.7 as the 5.9 is gone.
No matter which way you go, you won't be disappointed. My suggestion is that if you are getting the Auto 4.7, defintely get 3.92s. With a 5.9, either of the gears will be fine. As far as gas mileage, I know a few people here get good gas mileage on a 5.9 but most I talk to get 14-15 average. I get 18-21 average with my manual 4.7 quad cab 4x4.
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RTcliff
Dodge Dakota
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10/15/2003
16:58:39
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I'm all for the 5.9. Torque is the name of the game here. I live in San Francisco and have a 99 Dakota R/T Reg Cab and this is the first vehicle I have owned that can take even the most vertical of hills without breaking a sweat. Just a light tap on the gas and R/T will effortlessly scale the streets when most cars are gunning engines, clutches popping and brakes squealing. Not mine, thanks to the torque of the 5.9 I'm sad they stopped making it but if I can I'll own this truck forever!
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kory
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12/26/2003
23:40:34
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Well. As far as speed goes, i havent found a 5.9 that will beat my 4.7 single cab 5 speed that only has dual exhaust with no muffler. I've raced 4 now. I like to race and have found there are not too many older style gt's that can keep up either. I honestly have no other mods. I'm thinking about headers and venom 400 however. Any other performance advice from you 4.7 owners, email me.
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viking
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12/30/2003
11:35:01
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Well, seeing that pandora's box has yet again been opened with this thread, thought I'd throw my two cents worth in. I have an '02 Quad Cab 4x4 with the 5.9 auto and 3.92 LSD...headers and exhaust as well. Just got back from a 600 mile trip in an '03 Durango 4x4 with the 4.7 auto (rental SUV). Man, I couldn't get back to my Quad Cab fast enough. The 4.7 kept down shifting...couldn't handle any sort of head wind, and the other drivers commented on how underpowered this thing was...and what was with the transmission shifting all the time. 90+ on Alligator alley between Naples and Miami was quite a challenge for the Durango 4.7 (could have been the dual A/C imposing some parasitic drag on the motor...gee, I wonder..and the head wind...go figure). My 5.9 Quad hardly breaks a sweat and actually gets 14.5 at 90+...vice 13.5 at around 65 mph. Working a bit more efficiently in its torque band I suppose...and the A/C has no noticable effect on 5.9 IMO...
Anyways, fire away at me. Long live the venerable "A" series motors.
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Redneck
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12/30/2003
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My engine is the bestest ever. It gets gooder gas mileage and is faster then anything else on the road. Anybody that has a differnt engine than mine is a idiot. I drove a truck with that "other" engine in it once before and it was a slow piece of crap. Of course it was in a bigger truck that had more weight in it and a bad transmission and hiway gears and was old and beat up but it was a piece of crap anyways. I know that my engin is the best because it is the one I choosed. I don't think anybody else could pull out and pass me on a hill because my engine is king baby. While I am at it my transmission is the bestest too because it wont shift. I hate a transmission that shifts. I can wip any of you idiots with my truck because it has the best engin. I didnt tell you guys which engine I have because it dosnt make any differnce. The one I have is best.
There, did I sound like enough of a stupid redneck for you guys to see what you collectively sound like? I guess now would be a bad time to tell you about my S10?
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bman42
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12/30/2003
12:53:01
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the debate rages.
the 5.9 relies on good ol fashioned displacement and mass (momentum). the 4.7 gets the power from RPM's.
the debate will never end
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scott
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12/30/2003
18:44:42
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I got the 4.7L in a 01' QC 4x4 and I have no complaints, I can tow anything I want, anywhere I want with now probs,just make sure the O.D. is turned off. I keep hearing you guys talking about the 5.9L in the Q.C. I have never seen it.
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bman42
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12/31/2003
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i have an 01 QC 4x4 with the 5.9L. I think they stopped offering it a year ago or maybe two.
Anyway, from what I've read on this site, both are solid motors with the 4.7 probably being slightly more efficient mainly due to lower displacement. Performance wise tho, I've never really heard anyone say they didn't like the 4.7. I figure, as long as it has 8, it's great
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viking
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12/31/2003
07:58:56
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Gret post REDNECK. You pretty much summed it all up with this 4.7 Vs 5.9 thread! Comparing apples and oranges for the most part. Whatever application you have, it all comes down to personal choice/preference...and that's what makes this such a great nation to live in. Happy Holidays to all.
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Dodge_Tech
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1/01/2004
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The 4.7 doesn't have the low-end grunt of the 5.9 if you really want to notice it, go drive a 4 door fullsize :)
The 4.7 is a screamer though, loves to spin. Got a 5-spd manual with mine so I could have some fun with it.. The only time I miss my full size / 5.9 / auto is when I'm towing my boat. (the 4.7 Dakota pulls it well, it's just different I guess).
One thing I don't miss is that piece of junk 46RE that I had hanging off the back of the 5.9..
Leo
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steve-o
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7/24/2005
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How much would it cost me to get my '04 QC auto 4.7 to beat my buddy in his '03 QC auto Hemi, in the 1/4 mile?
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Quick
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10/05/2005
12:20:04
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Well I purchased the 5.9L QC 4x4 2000 not to long ago and it is great.That same week my best friend purchased a 2000 4.7L QC 4x4 2000 same color even the only difference we can see is that he is afraid to step on his like I do. I know I have more lower end power than he does but he has the top end speed vs mine. Difference in MPG is mute point about the same.
Now what impressed me with my 5.9L
On the lower end power my 5.9L impressed the HELL out of me pulling an over loaded work truck up a clay/gravel hill that was nothing but a soft sponge. I hooked on and told the guy we may have to call a tow truck? He said what the hell give it a try. I placed the truck in High 4x4 on the way down there hooked on to this over loaded work truck that was on a boat ramp hill (if you know what I mean). I pulled the chain tight and my friend watched as I started to tug on the truck my tires never even sliped it was so impressive I could not beleive that I just pulled him striaght up that hill. As if I was on concrete road very impressed with the power and the 4x4 of this truck.
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jayb
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10/10/2005
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so what does everyone here think of the 4.0L with the variable valve timing. supposed to have 265hp and 284ft lbs of torque. in the nissan frontier ive heard only good things.
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Kowalski
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10/10/2005
18:11:30
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Peak #s only tell a small part of the story - you'll find that motor has less power in the lower rev range than something like mopar's v8s that are being discussed in this thread. The peak #s make it look comparable, but it really isn't.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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