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Dodge Dakota
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4/27/2005
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I bought a set of HO cams. but when thy came. wasnt in the box. I want to know how I can tell they are HO cams and not the stock cams someone didnt want. the only numbers on the cams are 1413C 161212 and 1413C 021222. any help is apprishated. dont want to spend alot of money having the same stock cams put in to my truck.
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Rob C
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4/28/2005
02:57:40
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Are these cams used? Those numbers aren't part numbers, at least not complete PN's anyway. The correct PN's are:
53021411AB left side
53021412AB right side
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Dodge Dakota
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4/28/2005
15:35:00
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they dont seem used the person said he didnt want to put them in so sold them. done seem to be any wear just some surface rust. the lobes has no wear on them. cant find any other numbers but the ones I found on the cams.
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Kowalski
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4/28/2005
16:47:37
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When I bought mine several years ago, the part # was on the packaging, not the cams. I think I remember a purple stripe on them, almost like the old mopar performance purple shaft cams. Don't know if that's on all of them, but my stock ones weren't marked like that. Definitely make sure they are two different lengths, for a while it was a common screw up for them to send 2 lefts or 2 rights - this happened to many of us, and the guys who didn't find that til they already had the valve covers off weren't very happy...
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Dodge Dakota
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4/28/2005
19:01:45
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well they are the same length. they both have a light blue stripe on them. they look identical. the lobes and everything. guess I might have to look more in to it to see what I have. will teach me to buy brand new from a store. the only thing diffent in length is the tabs on the end. one is shorter than the other.
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Rob C
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4/28/2005
23:34:28
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That Kowalski has got some memory, I couldn't remember what made the cams look different so, I pulled out my stock cams that I have stored in the packaging the HO cams came in (clear plastic sleeves, bubble wrapped and sealed in corrugated paper [cardboard] with a light adhesive coating). The right camshaft is longer because the right cam chain is in front of the left cam chain so the sprocket is farther forward on the engine. The dowel pin is longer to accomodate the target wheel which fits between the right camshaft and the right cam sprocket.
I can't imagine the lobe positioning being the same on both cams, all of the valves open and close at different times and the mounting position on the cylinderheads are opposite each other.
However you do have legal recourse whether you purchased online or in a local store. Don't take it lying down.
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Kowalski
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4/29/2005
06:46:41
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Thanks Rob. Some say I've got a mind like a steel trap - rusty and banned in 37 states. Isn't one about an inch longer than the other ? I'm not sure what he means by tabs - but with the colored stripe I'm guessing he's got the HOs.
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4/29/2005
14:29:31
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tabs I mean where the threaded end is. there is a tab looks like a metal dowl pin. one is longer than the other.
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Rob C
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4/29/2005
22:01:43
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Yeah, the right cam is 1 1/4" longer than the left. I'm assuming that it's difference in length is a little longer than the width of the cam chain. Some other characteristics of the two cams from the back of the cam to the first lobe is 2" on the right cam. The left cam is 1 1/8" to the first lobe. The cams when placed side by side with the dowel pins at 12 o'clock don't look anything alike in length or the lobe positioning. They are definitely not interchangeable and it'd be pretty difficult to confuse the two. The numbers that were stamped into my cams were Right=062C 101489 Left=061C 151669. These were my stock cams but, the HO cams aren't wildly different. Just more lift, different duration and less overlap. It's amazing that they make as much difference as they do. It just goes to show you how important cam timing and lift are.
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4/30/2005
11:28:57
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looks like I got the same cams. put both to the 12 o clock position. they line up perfectly lobes and all. next Q is which side do I have left or right lol. next time I will buy brand new so I know what I get lol.
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caulk04
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5/03/2005
16:51:57
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Ok, the cams I just got from KRC (hmm...) match those numbers, but the last letter is C, not B.
I stopped in at my local dealer (where I should have gone in the first place) and the numbers ARE different than what comes up stock for my 02 Dak. I know a guy that works at my dealer parts dept and for some reason I completely forgot about it till today. He could have gotten me the cams for $109 each...hmmph.
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