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RED DEVIL
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4/16/2002
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Whats the stock R/T 1/4 mile time?
Also does anyone autocross their R/T?
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
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4/16/2002
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Which model year?? CC OR RC?? What part of country?? For RC, depending on loation 14.8-15.8 For CC Depending on location 15.2-16.0
A few people auto-x their R/T's and can hang with most of the cars out there.
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Danny Price
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4/16/2002
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I have an R/T and I have heard a lot of the same things. Ive heard about 14.8 - 15.2 for the stock RC R/T's
Dan
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kota on 20s
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4/16/2002
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yea, a dude that works for hotchkis autocrosses his RC V6, and he hangs with vetts. i heard he beats them in the solom. pretty good for a truck
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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RED DEVIL
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4/16/2002
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I have no idea what rc and cc mean. So i'm just talkin about the 240 horse or whatever it is, 5.9 litre.
Those times don't seem to fast but I guess the horrible horsepower per litre makes it a sinch to upgrade your power and times.
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moparjoe20
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4/16/2002
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R/C - Regular Cab
C/C - Club Cab
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RED DEVIL
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4/16/2002
17:30:41
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ok then reg cab... ive got a reg cab 3.9
the fast vehicle is our neon :)
mid 14's with some bolt ons and slight weight redux. its an autocross car though.
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HSKR
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4/16/2002
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Before you judge whether the times are slow or not, remember that this is a TRUCK that weighs around 4000lbs that has to be pushed down the 1/4. This isn't some car built for performance. It is using the exact same engine the Ram uses with no mods done to it. Personally I don't think a 15 sec time is that bad for a normally asperated truck. No other facotry produced truck without a SC can compete with the Dak R/T.
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kota on 20s
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4/16/2002
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does anyone know what a 2wd V8 tundra runs? a friend of mine said it will spank a stock R/T, but i dont think so.
he's a toy guy and im a dodge guy (obviously), so i think i am going to have to take him out in my 318 ;-)
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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HSKR
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4/17/2002
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You will have no proble with a Tundra. The Tundra is heavier and their V-8 is smaller and mkaes less power.
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RED DEVIL
Dodge Dakota
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4/17/2002
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I see your point, knew it before, but now its at the front of my head :)
I think it will be easier to make the dak go faster than my neon without forcing induction. I do like the superchargers for daks though. stock neon engine with intercooled turbo from haun runs low 13's and i'd assume the dak would be high 13's or low 14's?
Anyways
love the R/T no matter what. Awesome truck. Props to all of you that own one. I shall someday as well.
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MikeD
R/T
4/17/2002
00:48:44
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FIrst time at the track a couple weeks ago I ran 15.1, 14.9, and 15.0 at a really humid track w/ poor traction....another R/T guy w/ more mods than me like heads & cam work who ran a 15.1 and another guy who looked like he had more experience racing got a 14.4 w/ head and cam work. Good track conditions I could probably get low 14's maybe high 13's.
~Mike~
'01 R/T
True Duals w/ Flowmaster 10 series, M-1 2bbl, F&B 52mm TB, Airaid, JBA headers, JBA 9mm wires, Kenne Bell Optimizer II, 180 t-stat, 3rd cat removed, Street Scene grill upper & lower, Chrome R/T badges
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Hersbird
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4/17/2002
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High perfoprmance Mopar tested a 98 CC that ran a 15.1 pure stock at a real track in not the greatest conditions. It was even their first try with the truck. I've heard of pure stock CC's hitting the 14's and lots of pure stock RC's getting mid 14's. So people don't get those times, and end up with a lot of mods before they give their stock truck a chance at them. I'd still say 14.9 for a RC is about average and 15.2 for a CC.
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kota on 20s
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4/17/2002
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mike D, is the kenny bell optimizer the pcm that kb makes/flashes? if so, how do you like it?
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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MikeD
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4/17/2002
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I already had quite a few mods to really tell if it helped in the HP range but as far as the shift points go they are alot better.
~Mike~
'01 R/T
True Duals w/ Flowmaster 10 series, M-1 2bbl, F&B 52mm TB, Airaid, JBA headers, JBA 9mm wires, Kenne Bell Optimizer II, 180 t-stat, 3rd cat removed, Street Scene grill upper & lower, Chrome R/T badges
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Chris H
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With my 2001 R/t Rc I ran a 15.5 stock a little spinning in the begining. Most stock R/Ts I've seen run between 15.0-15.5 at the track! I have yet to see a stock R/t hit the 14.9 or below stock. I wish mine did !! ha ha take care
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RED DEVIL
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Heres the important thing... Does it FEEL fast?
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LI Blackdak
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back to tundra....I have a CC V6 4x4 and the tundra that i was messing with didn't seem a lot faster then my horrifically slow truck.
hey would a 5.2 Jeep GC from the mid 90s be able to to hang with an R/T?? My moms (94 FT 4wd)is pretty powerful better traction and lighter...what do they run??
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Hersbird
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4/17/2002
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The fastest Jeep ever, the 98 5.9 Limited is a little slower then a CC R/T (15.4-15.7), not bad for a great off road, AWD. I don't think the Jeep is lighter then a 2wd Dakota, the older Grand Cherokees were probably lighter then a QC 4x4 Dakota, but the redesigned Jeeps have put on some more weight and they are probably pretty close in weight to a Quad Cab.
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drtswinger
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4/17/2002
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my reg. cab 99 r/t with 50k miles ran a 14.86 in the 1/4. this was stock when i first got it. wait, it had a throttle body spacer (which I threw out) so that must have been it... I prolly would have run a 15.5 without it. ( that was a joke.)
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HSKR
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I've personally watched a Jeep GC Limited run a 15.4 bone stock with a novice driver. A better driver behind the wheel, and low 15's were easily reachable. The woman driving coudl only get a best of 2.3 60' time even with the AWD. She was afraid to load the TC at the line to bring up the RPMs for launch.
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LI Blackdak
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4/17/2002
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so they are fast(relativly)...its not just that im so used to going slow. that car is as overpowered as mine is underpowered
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Hersbird
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4/18/2002
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I spent a lot of time over at www.jeepsunlimited.com as I traded in my Grand Cherokee for a Dakota and I never heard of a pure stock jeep running anything better then what you said a 15.4. It doesn't take anything but a novice to launch one of those things. Then I personally test drove 3 of them before buying my Dakota, no way they were anywhere close to the RC, but they sure cost more! I still think I'll get one as my 3rd car, I can't think of anything better. I need back doors and AWD for the winter. I'd go with a WRX but in a few years when I'm ready to buy I think a 98 Jeep will be much less then a 2002 Subie, and I can take the jeep hunting. My Dakota did do fine hunting this year but I filled my tag the second week when there was only a few inches of snow in the mountains.
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316 Dakota
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4/19/2002
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My '99 Dakota sport with the 5.2L (318) i took it to Desota Speedway in Desota Florida and ran it on the 1/4 i did 5 runs my frist run was very bad it was a 16.541@85.11mph my second was 15.957@87.31mph third was 15.965@86.44mph fourth was 15.795@86.59MPH and my last was 15.562@88.76MPH i dont think it was to shabby its a RC with only a K&N replacment filer no mass air flow jsut a drop in replacement. with some mods and some practice i tihnk i can do better and if anyone dont beleive me i have the track recipes i cna scan and email them... all this done with steam coming out of the air conditioner vents :) yes my heater core is leaking and is a bitch to replace im prolly gonna bypass it seeing as how i live in florida and its summer i wont need it for awhile but ill need the A/C and it has 66k miles and its yellow... and it has no possy so i have a hard time hooking up with possy and some tires that can hook i think i can hit low 15's
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RTDKOTA
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4/19/2002
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I can only muster a 14.3 @ 96 in my RT.
Only a few bolts ons... Would like to be in the 13s NA soon.
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kota on 20s
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4/19/2002
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that cam should help a lot. are you going to regear it?
is that 14.3 with a drag radial, or normal street tires? was that at carlsbad?
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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318 Dakota
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4/19/2002
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Kota how much did ur times drop when u put 20's on it i work in a Tire/Rim warehouse so i get everything at whole cost... i was thinking of putting some OE R/T replaca 20's on my sport with 275/45/VR20 GY Eagle GT-II i can get OE R/T GY Eagle RSA 255/55/17 for 90-100 bucks a peice anyone that lives in the Tampa Florida Area needing tire give me an email ill hook ya up... or if u need rims i have Diablo Racing rims, Raceline, and AWC Wheels... What brand are yours Kota......
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kota on 20s
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4/19/2002
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what a coincidence (sp?)! i also work in a tire shop.
i didnt do a before and after, but it didnt make that much of a differance. im running 255/35/20 michelin XZT/Z4's (that i got for free hehehe)
going with a bigger rim usually slows you down, because of the added unsprong weight. im on billet aluminum rims and small tires, so the weight is about the same as my stock 15" rims and tires.
i have heard the 17" R/T wheels are heavy, and i dont even want to know what the 20's weigh. expecially with a 275/45/20.
i did notice a little more torque because the 35 series tire brings my stock 3.55 gears to 3.64's, but its nothing to brag about
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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Duner
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4/19/2002
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At the Mopar Shootout Southwest race held last month in Tucson - we had a fine selection of various wheels and tires just "laying around". I took my stock 15" wheel and tire, my 17" R/T wheel and tire as well as a new 20" replica R/T wheel and tire over to the scales....
15" wheel and tire assembly weighed 48 lbs
17" wheel and tire assembly weighed 62 lbs
20" wheel and tire assembly weighed 72 lbs
I wish I would have weighed my 15" wheel with an ET Street tire mounted on it.... they feel like they are quite a bit lighter than the regular street tires. Anybody know the weight difference for those?
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318 Dakota
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Depending on what size is on it they are very light i know of some 27x10.50x15 Hoosier's i had that weight a tad over 12lbs. a peice and my rear tires now (295/50/15) goodyear weight'd 27lbs. there is a big difference between the two...
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318 Dakota
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Depending on what size is on it they are very light i know of some 27x10.50x15 Hoosier's i had that weight a tad over 12lbs. a peice and my rear tires now (295/50/15) goodyear weight'd 27lbs. there is a big difference between the two...
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