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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/25/2005
09:29:20
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 Subject: RE: 02 4.7 Vs 04 3.7
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Now I want to know what you have done to your truck old fool....because if its close to stock you will most likely win against Jeremy but your not going to anhilihate him. And if your going to run me.....good luck!
BTW...I have Saturday off and We can run at Little River Academy at Temple...just let us know before Friday.
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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Old Fool
Dodge Dakota
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1/25/2005
10:25:23
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The truck has stock internals, Exhaust and an IP Z-tube Semi-CAI. and I will let you know by tomorrow evening if it will be this weekend or next weekend (more than likely this weekend). I will run it and race it just like I drive it in, on DOT tires and all.
I also need directions to that track, Little River Academy, from I-35. Gate times, Entry fee cost and what not, I hate getting caught short on cash for burgers and stuff.
Looking forward to getting schooled by V-6s and one of those massive Pushrod V-8s.
Later,
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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/25/2005
11:49:00
| RE: 02 4.7 Vs 04 3.7
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I think it is 7-10 to get in and another 5-10 dollares to race Time/Only.
BTW what are DOT tires??
And I wouldnt go as far as saying massive pushrod motor for a 318 but nonetheless pushrod for sure and enough im sure to eat a v8 which has double the cam that I do...heh
I will have to remember the exit number but ill find out today or tommorow.
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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014.7
Dodge Dakota
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1/25/2005
11:54:48
| RE: 02 4.7 Vs 04 3.7
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Wait, Jeremy is sayin his 3.7 is gonna smoke you? My truck is the same set-up as jeremy's except I have the 4.7. I would be glad to line them up if I lived closer. I think I know who you are,old fool, from other boards. Do you post on dakotausa under a different name?
Mike what does "if you're gonna run me...good luck" mean? Your truck runs a 15.42 man. That doesnt exactly give you bragging rights. lol
01 4.7 5spd 3.92 lsd
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Old Fool
Dodge Dakota
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1/25/2005
12:54:32
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I'm glad you are confident in your 5.2L Mike, being able to eat a OHC, 2 CAM engine and all, gets me all worried and stuff. But I will not back down from a good challenge, h3ll fear builds excitement. Oh yeah, DOT tires means Street Legal 'Department of Transportain' tires with a Minumum of 3 water groves at least 3/32nds of an inch deep.
014.7, yes i do post at Dak USA under a different name, and also on my Dakota Forum under the same name as Dak USA. 
Later,
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014.7
Dodge Dakota
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1/25/2005
12:58:20
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Cool. I know who ya are. I love the look of your truck with the lower pro. tires on the stock 16's. Im planning on doing the same thing. Good luck at the race man.
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Old Fool
Dodge Dakota
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1/25/2005
13:21:08
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yes and thank you sir. I like the way it looks with the low pros on stock rims. I think the stock 16s are about as good a looking rim as you can get for the Money.
If I was to put some new rims on my truck, these would be the ones
But they don't make them in a 16. and I can't get 15s around my front Calipers, I've tried.
Later,
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daffydak
GenIII
1/25/2005
13:50:43
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Wow... It looks like I have missed a LOT around here :-) Is there any way someone can get a video of this race?
Nothing personal guys, but I'm putting my bet on the 4.7L! stock to stock, the 5.2 wouldnt stand a chance against a 4.7L... I test drove 2 identical trucks when shopping for the current truck I have.
One was a 99 5.2L cc 4x4 3:55 LSD auto, mine is an 00 4.7L CC 4X4 3:55 LSD auto. I'm here to tell you that my truck feels much mpre "spirited" then the 5.2L did... Also I had a hard time hitting the 117 limiter with the 5.2, the 4.7L just keeps wanting to go! the 5.2L did seem to have more of it's grunt available sooner (maybe around 1800) but around 2500 I can really feel the 4.7's torque kick in (and it pulls hard all he way to the 6200 RPM limiter) the 5.2 ran out of breath around 4.5K or so.... you see what truck I drove away with, but the 5.2L was still a nice running truck! stepping up from a 3.9L, the v8 feels like a viper :-P
Best of luck to the both of you, It sounds like its gonna be one HELL of a race!
Dan
MOPAR=More Power!!
00 CC Sport Plus 4.7L 4X4 Auto, 3:55 LSD
Flowmaster orig. 40 series (2 chamber) muffler, adjusted tps to .76V, ported TB, home brew intake setup w/K&N filter, more mods to come!!!
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daffydak
GenIII
1/25/2005
13:53:11
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Sorry Jeremy, I didn't realize that you were racing as well... Good luck to you too :-)
maybe you can get Intense (Greg) to run at the track with 'yall! I would like to see his track #s as well...
Have fun, and keep us posted!
Dan
MOPAR=More Power!!
00 CC Sport Plus 4.7L 4X4 Auto, 3:55 LSD
Flowmaster orig. 40 series (2 chamber) muffler, adjusted tps to .76V, ported TB, home brew intake setup w/K&N filter, more mods to come!!!
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IntenseDak39
*GenIII*
1/25/2005
19:03:16
| RE: 02 4.7 Vs 04 3.7
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i'd like to see mine as well, too haha!!
i'll see if i can make it, but my truck dont go that far.
i'll race your 3.7 against my 5.2 durango... hahaha!!
mike, i like you buddy, but please dont put any money down on this one
i never realized you guys lived so close... www.dfwdakotas.com
check it out
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IntenseDak39
*GenIII*
1/25/2005
19:08:32
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daffy,
in the same sense, i test drove a 2002 4.7 durango and drove off in a 2000 5.2 durango :D
i just had mine dynoed with a friend that has a 4.7 durango.
me
2000 5.2 auto
184 rwhp
261 rwtq
him
2002 4.7 auto
185 rwhp
244 rwtq
both stock.
but i'd give it to the 4.7's tranny... better gearing makes it feel quick... but i'd rather have low end torque. If ya could see just how flat my torque curve was, you'd probably give that 5.2 another look
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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/26/2005
01:32:05
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Thats what i am saying Intense39!! My torque
curve is pretty broad and they strted at like
2100 rpms which was a little late for dynoing.
No I dont put money down because I simply
dont believe it.
But if he says all he has got is CAI...then I dont
believe he is going to beat me.
Nothing against my track time but I can hit
about a 15.2 with a decent launch my last
launch was a 15.4 because all i did was spin
before the first time. So this time i let it go at
1800 rpms and it ripped out of the hole and
got a 2.188 60' which is rather decent for a
dam near stock truck.
Old Fool How many HEMIs have you raced? Ill
tell you what to give you an idea about how
quick I am....I can stay in front of a RC Hemi
about a truck length or more all the way up to
70 mph....then they start realing me in a bit but
I have never been passed by won off the line.
Plus the HEMIs had 3.92s with suregip or
maybe Open...eith way they gripped and I
spun a little and that is the outcome everytime!
I hope to look foward to this race it will be
interesting and I will be able to see what i can
do against another worthy dakota like a 4.7L
BTW Intense39 I will check that site out and let
you know.
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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IntenseDak39
*GenIII*
1/26/2005
03:59:04
| RE: 02 4.7 Vs 04 3.7
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old fools truck doesnt just have an intake
he's also got some glass packs
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Old Fool
Dodge Dakota
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1/26/2005
07:21:49
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Me and my son will be there Saturday. I really need a time for the gates to open and some directions. I hate being late.
Yes I have raced a dozen or so Hemis at sanctioned race tracks, I had one even stay a couple truck lenths behind me all the way to the end of the 1/4 mile, but he had some good mods. And he was a regular cab. Most of them are somewhere between 5 and 10 (and the Quadcabs I some times wonder if they didn't break down at the line) truck lenths back.
Here is part of a time slip from down here in San Antonio (right lane of course). My reaction time was definantly off that day, and I haven't run a .500 light, sportsman tree in a long time. Although I did pick up a trophy at Alamo Dragway Easter week, last year before it closed for Reaction Time, cut a .501 light.
Later,
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Old Fool
Dodge Dakota
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1/26/2005
07:35:40
| RE: 02 4.7 Vs 04 3.7
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Nevermind, I found their site I have all the info I need and driving directions. So I will see you there sometimes between 2 PM and 4 PM.
January 29th, Sat - Street Legal Shootout for cars and motorcycles. Gates open at 2pm
Temple Academy Dragway in Little River Academy, TX
Later,
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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/26/2005
09:18:21
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Let me ask you a question....which side of that time slip was yours?? Left or right? BTW Jeremy and I will be there...and you want to meet us there bewtween 2 and 4 pm?
Ill talk to Jeremy....But We wil make it....anyone else wanna go.....might as well make a little KOTA meet.
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/26/2005
09:22:19
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BTW...what does your truck run in the quarter? I want to see if it is going to be a drivers race!
So let me get this straight...all u have done to your truck is a CAI and some glasspacks...anything else....cause I like surprises but none that will dissapoint me!
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/26/2005
09:39:30
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Nevermind the above post on which lane you had....durhh me!
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/26/2005
09:42:15
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You know I was just looking at that time slip and for a 60' like that...what did you have...slicks???? I am about 100% sure you cant pull a 1.9 60' on street radials and if you did then your truck is not stock by no means.
Like I said what else have you dont to your truck??
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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IntenseDak39
*GenIII*
1/26/2005
10:50:04
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he's said it..
intake
exhaust
DOT tires
i'll see if i can make it...... sure would be nice to get out of DFW for a change
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