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RCSD334
Dodge Dakota
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1/06/2005
23:41:41
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 Subject: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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I recently had some warranty work done to my '04 Dakota QC with a 4.7 and 5 spd auto. I took it to the dealer to have the A/C repaired. When I got my paperwork from the dealer I noticed that it listed the engine as "Next Generation 4.7L Magnum V8" is there a difference in a 4.7L Magnum and a Next Generation 4.7L? Or is it just what they call the 4.7?
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
1/06/2005
23:46:58
|  RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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I noticed that listing on my window sticker for my '03
The 4.7 is night and day different design than the older LA engines. Overhead cam and all the other stuff.
It's actually more advanced than the HEMI in many ways. The HEMI just sells, and is BIGGER of course.
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Joe X
Dodge Dakota
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1/06/2005
23:56:53
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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I don't think it has anything to do with the engine exactly. Your 2004 4.7, and mine, has what's called a Next Generation Controller. It's the engine computer. Used to be JTEC, now it's NGC.
JasonB can either confirm this, or tell me I'm so wrong it's not funny, and tell you what it really means.
Jason?
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kj
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2005
02:51:16
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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The sticker on my 2000 referred to it as the "next generation V8" also. I guess it's because of the all new design from the old 318/360.
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RCSD334
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2005
07:13:19
|  RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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Oh well I thought I might have something special!!
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Kowalski
GenIII
1/07/2005
08:40:08
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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You do - a better motor than the 5.2, that will never have a belly pan leak...
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Maverick
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2005
16:21:44
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A friend of mine has a 04 Dakota 4.7 quad cab. At 98 MPH it feels like it down shifts and will notgo beyond 98 MPH. Is there a fuel shut off valve on this engine? If so how do I remove or change this?
Thanks For Your Help
Mav.
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trick
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2005
17:49:52
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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Speed limiter - looks like has the lowest setting. Try turning key to start just before hitting it; dash will go blank and limiter is gone.
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JD
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2005
19:34:54
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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Just before hitting what?
If you're gonna post a tip or trick like that, please word it for us folks that don't know what gets hit.
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jasonsdakota
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2005
23:38:20
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the speed limiter at 98 mph.
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Mikes99Dakota
GenIII
1/08/2005
02:02:17
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Well I wouldnt go out and sayig its a better
motor...and I havent had a belly pan leak on
mine yet....depends on how you take care of
your truck...and for my 5.2 for stock it runs and
drives damn good even compared to the all
mighty 4.7.
O well spend 10,000 dollares in each one and
I bet the 5.2 will come out top!
Mike
1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit
Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph
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02dak
Dodge Dakota
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1/08/2005
12:20:25
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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Mikes Dakota: You supply the cash, and ill take you up on that challenge
Turbos here i come!!!
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Yup
Dodge Dakota
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1/08/2005
14:09:51
|  RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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"A fool and his money are soon parted".
BTW, how do you take care of a 5.2 so you don't get a belly pan leak ?
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FL4WD
Dodge Dakota
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1/08/2005
20:33:20
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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Even though the 4.7 is a Next Generation engine, there are some controller differences to note
2003 was the first year for next generation PCM's in Dakota..... The PCM and TCM got combined into one box. 4 connectors on NGC versus 3 on JTEC
**Keep in mind that you cannot do a engine swap between NGC and JTEC engines!(4.7) The tone wheel for the crank sensor is different and is not compatible.)**
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Len
Dodge Dakota
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1/10/2011
10:26:21
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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i recently had my 4.7 engine replace in my 2005 durango at a auto garage. the engine is brand new. however the mechanic was having a problem. it will turn but would not crank. i took it to the dealer after getting my money back from the mechanic. the dealer informed me that i may have the wrong engine installed. he told me that there are two types of 4.7s. the j tec and the ngc. can you please tell me the difference between the two. is it the engine or the wiring? hope youcan help. "LEN"
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wesp
Dodge Dakota
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7/06/2015
17:50:01
| RE: Next Generation 4.7 Magnum V8
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I have the same problem right now
trying to tell the difference
between a 16 tooth tone ring and
a 32 tooth tone ring 4.7 Is there
an easy way to tell?
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