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Kevin
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8/23/2004
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Well, so far have found one freeze plug leaking (front) and the tranny is being removed to find the big leak as we read. Stay tuned.. All this from a garaged and babied 2001 R/T with 25258 miles. Way to go Dodge your making great Trucks. Of course the warranty ran out by years in Feb 01. O'yeh it is supercharged but freeze plugs as a result, Don't think so. Anybody? Good news? Not heater core, head gaskets or intake gaskets. DODGE great idea to put freeze plugs behind the engine between the tranny and galvanized to boot.
How about brass you cheap asses.
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8/23/2004
15:48:50
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ever flush the cooling system
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dad
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8/23/2004
16:09:50
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And stop whining on every board.
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R/T
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8/23/2004
16:44:00
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Did you ever stop to think the engine was not made to be supercharged.
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racereric
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8/23/2004
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Yeah, i think sitting is worse then actually driving the vehicle. Sitting can kill a car quicker then anything.
I would be willing to bet you still have the stock coolant in the vehicle. I mean why change it it ony has 25k on it? Damn would really hate to see what the blower bearings look like after sitting for so long. All thats steel sitting on top of the motor, with no oil being run thru them. Now thats got to be tough.
Most engines come with galv. freeze plucgs in. It's cheaper for them. And it's all about the $$$ Does not matter which manufacture your talking about, it's all about getting it done cheap.
eric
PS, i agree with "DAD", quite your whining and throw some cash at it, then sell it.
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Kevin
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8/23/2004
18:22:07
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It does not sit, never said it did. It is my daily driver.... You can all say what ever you wish but there is NO WAY that those plugs should have gave way and you know it. 25k and 3 years..Please. I love my R/T and have dumped $1000k into it so it is not a money issue at all. The only reason those plugs gave way is fault of the factory and the coolant mixture they used. HELLO, a supercharger does not affect the cooling system what so ever. Remind you it was not one plug but 2 so far. Who flushes there radiator before 3 years or 25k anyway? Why would you? The manufacture does not suggest it until 36 months. If they are going to cut cost and use galvanized, don't put 2 freeze plugs you can only change if you drop the tranny? The truck never once over heated or ran hot. It was a rock for 3 years or 25258 which ever came first. LOL. BY the way The charger has been on for 3k and the truck still runs tight at 381 RWHP. It just can't keep its coolant in! And finally, the freeze plugs are as thick as a nickle. The corrision process started long ago.
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Kevin
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8/23/2004
18:28:51
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This is for dad, poor workmanship via DODGE. Anyway you look at it. Wha
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racereric
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8/23/2004
18:47:07
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Sorry to say this but a 4 year old truck with only 25k on it, does a lot of sitting. Thats just a little over 6k a year. Thats sitting. No other way to look at it.
My dad had a freeze plug go bad on his s-10 and it was only 3 years old. And we are in central tx with no real weather to speak. (read that as snow and the salt that goes with) So don't worry about the freeze plugs, i mean if thats your big complaint, i would consider myself lucky if i were you.
eric
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Kevin
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8/23/2004
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OK, Agree. But if DODGE is going to sell it to the public they should still make a product that will with stand 6k a year or 100K year or anything in between. Was the freeze plug between the tranny and the engine with no easy access n the s-10. i have had freeze plugs go before also but never have I seen hard plugs that unexcessable. At least brass in that location. It really is not a big deal but no insight by DODGE at all. I wonder if anyone ever said during manufacturing of the 5.9. "Hey what if these galvanized freeze plugs ever give way?" Their responce had to been, "o'well!". On the brighter side they are brass NOW.LOL
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Hurl
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8/23/2004
20:08:05
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Money not a problem? I'll say! You sunk 1000K into your truck? That converts to 1 million. I'd like to see a pict of that truck :)
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Kevin
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8/23/2004
20:34:14
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Figure of speech, Please people use some sense. I started this thred and now ending it Goodbye...
Problem solved....
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adam
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8/23/2004
20:40:04
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I dont care what the book says, I always change the coolant every year. And guess what? I've never had a coolant problem. I've had 2 ford's, 1 chevy, 1 nissan, and the dodge I own now. I dont care whether it is driven every day or once a year the coolant itself will tell you its only good for one year. besides, it cost less than $20 to do it right and forget it for another year.
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R/T
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8/23/2004
20:42:05
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I guess you come on a Dakota Forum with a bunch of Mopar fans and dis Dodge,, smart.
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R/T
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8/23/2004
20:45:13
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O yeah, a supercharger does effect a transmisson. but hey, what do i know im just a dumb 16 year old.
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peedee
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8/23/2004
20:53:39
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I won't comment on the issue of the time it took to fail. I will comment on the fact that given the two evils of removing the tranny to replace a freeze-plug and removing the tranny to find a crack because there was no freeze-plug placed there. Well, I think you know what I would choose. And it certainly cost extra $ to place those freezeplugs there in the first place. A lot of things can shorten the life of anti-freeze too. But the biggest job that anti-freeze does is act as an inhibitor. Depending on the conditions such as engine component composition and compatability, the water used in the mix -mineral content-, and eveness of expansion/contraction, life expectancy can be very dynamic.
I know, I know, I commented on the time it took to fail. So I lied! lol But I didn't mean too.
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Kevin
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8/24/2004
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R/T are you on glue. There is nothing wrong with the transmission. I have owned three Diamler/Chrysler vehicles and loved them all. And love my R/T now with all the mods. I was merely stating that the location and materials used was lame and it is DODGE that put them there. Brass plugs in that location would have solved any issue probably permantely for anybody who owned one. Peedee I agree about what you wrote and makes sense, but everything that failed inline was put there by Dodge including the coolant mixture. Just a fact. Hey now that I think of it. The sheet metal factory that supplied the galvanized steal for the plugs are to blame. Galvanized should never rust or corrode. Unless somehow electrolisis occurred, O know, I have 5 more freeze plugs that are not brass. O well it is dooly noted in my file at Diamler/Chrysler that 2 have failed at 25258 if any others do I have a good case for free work. Customer service even advised me to leave it at the dealer while they infestigate. Maybe they see to of the premature failure. Stay tunes to see if the buck up.
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peedee
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8/24/2004
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sucks to have to leave the baby at the doctors while they run tests. I feel for ya.
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R/T
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8/24/2004
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I must be huffing something because i thought you said there was a leak in you transmisson.
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Kevin
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8/24/2004
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For your insight, If anyong has a coolant leak BETWEEN the tranny and the engine the 5.9 has 2 galvanized freeze plugs in that location. One is in the upper right corner and is about 1" inch in diameter and the other is in the lower most left corner and is about 2 inch in diameter. If your tranny ever has to be removed for any reason change these to brass to remove any furture problems. This way a $3.00 part want cost you $700.00 in labor. Unless of course you do the work yourself or under warranty.
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NY
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8/25/2004
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Why is it that when ever some one has a bitch about their Dakota there is at least 5 or more people jumping on them for it? Lets face it, it's not uncommon for a Dakota to have a number of problems due to inferior parts. Hell, my '00 4.7L QC has been a problem child since it was new! 99% of the problems were due to Dodge using "cheap" parts. Once replaced with better aftermarket parts the problem doesn't return(to date). The same goes with other Dodge cars and for that matter other makes!
Now in "Kevins" situation, if the book says change the coolant ever 36 months then that should mean regardless of how often the truck is driven(or how long it sits), you shouldn't need to worry about the coolant for 36 months. End of story! The book also says 7K miles between oil changes, but I'm sure most of us change it every 3K. I agree it doesn't hurt to change the coolant every year, but Dodge doesn't feel it should be. I find it hard to believe that coolant would cause his problem. It's possible, but not likely. It seems to me it would be a manufacturing defect. It CAN happen. Maybe not to everyone, but it can happen. I had a Chevy for over 290K miles with the original coolant, radiator, gaskets AND water pump! Lucky? Maybe!
Every problem that someone feels is worth listing on these boards helps the rest of us Dakotas owners! Down the road if one of you gets a coolant leak you can't find, you may now know that it COULD be the rear freeze plugs, for example. It at least makes everyone that reads these boards aware of POSSIBLE problems and solutions to their symptoms that could happen with any one of the Dakotas out there.
We drive machines. There will most likely be problems at some point. Lets not scare people away from posting their problems for fear of being bashed for doing so.
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well
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8/25/2004
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It's not the posting, it's the whining that gets to most people and the calling Dodge products junk that gets those responses.
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