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Keith
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8/11/2004
20:57:09

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What is the single best mod for the $$$? i have a 99 5.2L cc. i know theres gonna be more than a few different takes on this but im trying to get a general idea. i have a K&N replacement filter and soon to have cat back exhaust. Thanks.




Old Fool
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8/11/2004
21:05:01

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True Dual exhaust with 2.5" pipes and high flow cats(a good custom exhaust shop should be cheaper than a so-so cat back system). Then all the other Mods will work like they should, you know like headers, t-body, CAM and such. Before it can breathe in correctly it must be able to breathe it out.

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Keith
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8/11/2004
22:47:12

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With a 4x4 configuration ive heard u cant do true dual exhaust or i would




.boB
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8/11/2004
23:31:26

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Don't waste money on a cat back system. None of them make any power, and some of them actually cost you power.

Your best bang for the buck for a street performance vehicle is a blower. Calm, down, think about it. Do a little research on the appropriate web sites and see how much torque, how much hp, and how much area under the curve you actually gain for your $3500.

When you're done with that, go back to the drawing board. Start adding up the cost of a true dual exhaust with headers, underdrive pully set, computer flash, roller rockers, cam, etc, etc, etc. Even if you're optimistic, the blower is still the best bang for the buck.

You can do it all in one week end (a long week end). And you can easily take it off when you sell the truck.



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8/11/2004
23:34:34

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how much $$$ do you have to spend?



Keith
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8/11/2004
23:36:02

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A blower? I dont want a full out drag vehicle or anything just a reasonably quick daily driver. To me a blower sounds like a race vehicle. Sorry for not clearing that up.




Keith
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8/11/2004
23:38:20

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Im 16 and on a limited budget for that reason other wise yeah id have a 408 s/c R/T. im just looking for somethin under $350-$500 to make a good diffrence.



Old Fool
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8/11/2004
23:42:50

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You can put true duals on any thing. Just gotta find an exhaust shop with a technician that is at least 10% smarter than the equuipment he works with.

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Opie
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8/12/2004
10:25:29

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Lets answer a few questions / issues brought up on this thread:

Yes, you can do a True Dual Exhaust on a 4X4. I have one (albeit a 4.7L) and it is dualed out. GS Motorsports has refined their setup (using my truck as a guniea pig) and it works. Just make sure to keep a catalitic converter on each pipe to stay legal and treat the O2 sensors right (plug 'em or simulate 'em).

I agree with putting a blower on the motor, but the costs of maintatnce go up with the blower too (re-flash the computer to advance the timing, beefed up components, more frequent oil changes, etc. etc.). For the average joe who does not know the concept of saving money to buy big, a Supercharger is not in the cards unless it comes stock on a daily driving vehicle (Lightning, GTO, Mercedes Kompressor, etc.).

The mods on our smaller trucks start costing $100 here and $200 there, but after a TB and an intake, the only ones left cost $500+ and require a mechanic.

Intake/Exhaust/Sparkplugs/Cams/TBs/etc are small add-ons that increase performance/power and help eachother. I am about to get the cams and F&B TB (as soon as Scott from GS Motorsports sends me my refund for being used) and will dyno the beast to see how autolite plugs, true dual, homebrew K&N intake, moved IAT, etc. compliment eachother (and hopefully push my 4.7 over 300hp).

Do some searching on this site. There are threads that go back 4-5 years and have the same info that you are looking for.

Good luck!




Mikes94Dakota
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8/12/2004
11:24:51

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Opie where do you live we have a GS Motorsports here in Waco, Texas and ihave never heard of them anywhere else....i thought it was family owned.



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8/12/2004
12:17:59

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Keith, I put a K and N air filter (45.00) on my truck, ported the Throttlebody(cost of bits for DremmelTool), the torque step limits the throttle body size to 48mm, I replaced my stock muffler with a flowmaster 70 series( about 100.00). This netted me about 40hp according to a Gtech meter.



Opie
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8/12/2004
15:15:45

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Mikes94:
I am down here in Houston and had to order the true dual from Scott Q. out of Californa at http://www.gsmotorsports.com/47dual_dakota.htm

Not family owned... and If it were the same operation that Scott works at, I would drive up there and demand my $100 refund in person.

You going to Salsarita fest? I'd be glad to see your '94 Dak...

...in my rear-view mirror :P



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8/14/2004
02:06:06

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"treat your O2 sensors right - plug them or simulate them" ???!!??? How about "plumb them in?"!!! first of all - O2 sensors wont do you any harm - and the after cat sensors are simply checking up on the pre-cat sensors. To stay low buck - I'd use a fresh air intake and free up the exhaust. otherwise, I'd agree with .bob - a blower is cheap power - and not only for draging!



mike malik
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8/14/2004
10:25:57

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can anyone give me info on the afrtermarket comp. chip? My main goal is to go more than a hundred miles an hour in my Dodge Dakota 4.7



scott
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8/15/2004
11:04:11

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My Dak already goes over 100 almost stock. I want it to go over 100 in the 1/8th. Nitrous!! been looking at the venom 1000 setup pretty seriously looks like a pretty good setup for street vehicles and weekend warriors.



android287
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8/20/2004
14:45:39

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It would be impressive to go over 100 in the 1/4. Going over 100 in the 1/8 now that would take alot of money.



johnq
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8/20/2004
17:37:58

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true duals on an dak with out a sc and maby more you will loose all your low end torq. That Dual stuff is crap to guys who know get the 3" single and forget all that waste of money over kill exhaust. Get a high flow cat and 3" gibson and a fastman tbody and youll be happy.



Old Fool
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8/20/2004
17:59:51

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No low end torque loss on my true duals at all. Still take off in second gear for daily driving and pull all the hills in my area in 5th gear and gain speed if I desire. That is one of them many Dakota Myths.

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johnq
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8/20/2004
20:26:40

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I know for a fact on my 5.2 single 3" from the y lost a lot of low end sure I think I gained in the higher rpm ranges but its a dog off the line now, and I am gong to get the 2.5 put back on.



Nate Dawg
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8/24/2004
18:28:43

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hey, i got a 98 Dakota with a 318 and 4x4, ext cab and was wondering if I can put a true dual on my truck. i know i'd proly have to put headers on it but it would be worth it in the end. plz let me know.
Nate




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