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6/25/2004
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5.9 Dakota Turbo System @

http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com/



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6/26/2004
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Wow, I need to empty my bank account now!



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6/26/2004
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"We ran this system on pump gas testing only to 11 psi and it responded
with 425 rear wheel horsepower, along with 500+ ft pounds of torque!"

holy crap!!

that's about a gain of 200-220 rwhp over a stock 5.9 in a dakota!

6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs

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6/26/2004
21:32:45

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Will the drivetrain handle it?



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6/26/2004
21:54:51

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What doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me is that the turbo is at the manifold on 1 side only.

I would have thought that the turbo would have to be near the y pipe to be more efficitive.



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6/26/2004
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Hmmmmm, I coulda sworn that I responded to this thread. Where'd it go?



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6/26/2004
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that manifold collects exhaust from the other side too. If you look at it, it has a place for another pipe to attach to the underside of where the turbine flange is. And i am betting the little pipe with three flanes on it in the middle of the pic connects to it and connects the wastegate.

6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs

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6/27/2004
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I think I'll be calling for one of those next week!!

'00 QC|2wd|5.9L|Auto|3.55|K&N FIPK|Flowmaster 50-Series|TPS@.73v|Relocated IAT|Autolite 3923's|180 T-stat|Redline Oil



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6/27/2004
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I'm very excited about this because it's a step in the right direction, turbos are the way to go as you can see. 200+ gain vs a super charger where you are likely to gain 50-100hp, the turbo is where the real gains are.



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6/27/2004
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Just remember that you can't run 11psi on a stock motor. most dakota superchargers only run 6psi.
to run anything more you would have to change the heads, etc.

Another note, the dyno sheet shows that the dakota revved to 6500 rpm, that seems really high for a dakota motor.



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6/27/2004
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Who says you can't run 11 psi on a stock 5.9 engine?



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6/28/2004
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rich does

6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs

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6/28/2004
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So what about the 4.7L!?!?!?!?!?! Just a small turbo? Even just a non-adjustable 6psi!!! That would be the end all of all mods that I would ever do!!



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6/28/2004
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I think a 4.7 can handle MORE than 6PSI LOL!
As long as the WASTE GATE doesn't stick open, right Duner? ;-P

When I met and talked to Duner at the track a few weeks ago, I mentioned wanting to make a MILD turbo set up for mine.

He said that would be a problem. The problem being ONCE you got the boost. You don't just STAY with a MILD setup. It's always got to be MORE form there! Like an addiction or something I suppose.





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6/28/2004
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Send them an email cthomp maybe if there is enough demand they will make one. I think Rich needs to post some proof that what he says is true because right now he hasn't really said much, maybe rich is a bowtie man.



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6/28/2004
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well i am kinda wondering what changing the heads does?

i mean.. you can beef up the seal with better gaskets, replace the bolts with studs and stuff like that.. but what does "better heads" do and mean?

6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs

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6/28/2004
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Are you in the wrong thread Intense?



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6/28/2004
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"Just remember that you can't run 11psi on a stock motor. most dakota superchargers only run 6psi. to run anything more you would have to change the heads, etc" - rich

read that... then our comments.

what i was getting at is changing the head isnt gonna allow for more boost.

i'm in the right thread 00 RT ;)

6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs

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6/28/2004
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I sent them an email requesting some more info. Their testing was done on a 99 Dakota. They expect to have their pricing finalized by the end of the week, said they have received a great deal of response. I have a Gen II truck that will eventually be getting a 5.9. He thought the turbo would still fit if I used the same ls exhaust manifold.



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6/28/2004
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Sorry Intense I guess I opened my mouth too soon, I missed the part about the headers. I'm still very excited to find out what the pricing will be, if it's comparable to an S/C that would be nice but I think it will probably be a few K more as it should be.



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6/29/2004
01:07:28

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This was from a post by Wicked R/T on the Dakota-Durango board.

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Hi all,
I don't hang out much on the Delphi board, but there seems to be a
lot of talk about the truck over there.

I would like to address some of the issues on this forum in hopes
that one of you computer gurus can forward it their way.

First off: I had no idea Turbo Tech. was going to post photos of the
system and of my truck on the internet. We had talked about making a
kit available to 5.9 owners, but they did not mention to me about
advertizing it on their website.

Secondly: They are misrepresenting this system because they do not
mention the fact that the fuel system is modified, along with the
block. That will be corrected on their website soon.

Turbo Technology has spent considerable time and effort into designing and mocking up a system for our trucks. They wanted to
make sure every detail was right before releasing it. They also
wanted to be sure it would run with a MP PCM (not custom flashed).In
fact, they actually had it working with the stock PCM. But it hits
the rev limiter too fast and shuts off the fuel. All parties
involved with the build agreed that we wanted it to work right first,
before saying anything about it. That is the reason for me not saying
too much. I'm still in the early stages of testing on the street, but
so far it DOES work!

This system is available in different versions, with different boost
levels. You can custom order any boost level from 5 - 19 lbs. Your
boost will dictate your motor build... and will also dictate your
fuel requirements. George at TT has assured me he can make a version
that requires less mods... Your boost level will be lower though.

This system comes with a T4E60-1 turbo, which is rated 250-650 hp,
depending on where you wastegate the boost. Right now, it runs a 10
lb spring with variable boost control set at 0. I will be able to
turn it up to 14 lbs. with this block. The intercooler is by
Precision Industries and is rated for 600+ hp.it runs on 92 octane, and believe it or not, the boost retard is set at 0... No detonation.

No Duner..... The dyno was not marked with a crayon.... It's as
real as real gets. There is no end in sight on the power curve... We stopped the dyno just before hitting the rev. limiter... As a matter of fact, it spun the tires on the dyno several times. It took a few tries before it stuck.

The bottom end was modified to handle 600RWHP and withstand at least
14 lbs. of boost. The comp. ratio is 8.49 to 1. I run a puny 50mm TB on top of a 4bbl M-1 manifold, into stock heads with a mild exhaust port only. It runs what I would consider to be an RV cam. Not much lift, not much duration, and a stock centerline. The valve geometry has all been modded to handle 6500+ rpm. It runs 1.7 rockers.

The secret is not necessarily the tuning, although that's part of
it... The big secret here is the intercooler. It's friggin
unbelievable... On the street, the truck is wild at half throttle.. NO BS...It hasn't been to the track yet. We find out Wed Nite.

I hope this cleared up some rumors :0)

Anyways... For you serious HP junkies, this is just another way of
making serious power.

C'mon out to Pacific Raceways and join me Wed. night! Let's find out
what a turbo can do. Oh, and pray to the traction gods for me, eh?

Ed...>>



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