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Jonsey
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6/03/2004
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Help!! Well I've been trying to figure out what has been going on with my 4x4. When the 4x4 is engaged it makes a whinneding up sound when I get going and a whinneding down sound when I slow down. Now I'm thinking the fluid just may be low cuz my Differental did the same thing and I changed the fluid and seals on it and now it's just fine. When it's in 4x4 it runs smooth and everything seems fine, just that noise. I only use the 4x4 in the winter and once in a while during the summer to keep in moving. And my dad thinks that it is really nothing to worry about. Please give any advice and hopefully it's nothing serious, thanks Guys!!!





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6/03/2004
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i've got a ram and it does the same thing, i don't know if its normal though. if it was really low on fluid (like mine was when i bought it) it would make a clattering noise in 2h and 4h



DAHEMIKOTA
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6/07/2004
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Make sure there is oil in the transfer case. It does not share the trans oil. There is a plug on the case that you take out to check the oil level. The oil should be even with the threads in the plug hole when the truck is level. A lot of people check the trans dip stick and think it includes the transfer case. The trans can be full, while the transfer case is empty. Just my two cents. Dan



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6/07/2004
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Dude do your homework before posting! The transfer case uses tranny-fluid all day long! I know because my rear seal went bad and it started leaking RED TRANNY-FLUID, not oil. How the hell would you put oil in that thing without removing it from the vehicle?! I also have the service manual on the Daks and it clearly states that it uses tranny-fluid. So yes, if you check the tranny-fluid properly, it tells you if the transfer-case is low.



DAHEMIKOTA
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6/08/2004
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Dude? I never said the tranfer case didn't use trans oil STUPID. (Caps mean your hollering right?) Look in the service manual you have and look up how to fill the transfer case STUPID.Do YOUR homework before you get erogant. I probably rebuilt more transfer cases and transmissions in my sixty years than you have seen.



DAHEMIKOTA
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6/08/2004
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Dude? I never said the tranfer case didn't use trans oil STUPID. (Caps mean your hollering right?) Look in the service manual you have and look up how to fill the transfer case STUPID.Do YOUR homework before you get erogant. I probably rebuilt more transfer cases and transmissions in my sixty years than you have seen.



Sephiroth
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6/08/2004
14:14:30

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DAHEMIKOTA,
I apologize for my stupidity. I thought the transmission and xfercase was dee same unit. I try to understand what I read on the posts. See, I really don’t know sh!t about vehickles. My mama ran off with a truck driver and my daddy is in jail and I have ADD. Again, I apologize.



Sephiroth
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6/08/2004
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Not e posting the reply, yet Pope thinking he's kool again.

Now, you are wrong DAHEMIKOTA. This shows an extreme lack of intelligence on your part. If I had a scanner I could scan in the f*cking service-manual. The transfer-case uses ONLY tranny-fluid, NOT oil. I never said the case used oil, so the sentence "I never said the tranfer case didn't use trans oil STUPID." makes no sense, aside from the fact that it shows you did not read my post. I know the thing uses transmission-fluid for a thousand reasons, yet you dare try to say otherwise? What the HELL are you smoking?! Let me list some reasons here:

1) When the tansfer-case seal went bad on my '95, it leaked RED TRANSMISSION FLUID.

2) When I had the dealer replace my fluid and filter, He brought me out into the garage to show me the transfer-case starting to leak and told me that they were going to fill it up, but it would drip through the leak so i needed to watch it until I got it fixed.

3) The service manual clearly states that the thing uses transmission-fluid and specifically says NOT to fill it with oil because it'll mix with the transmission and cause problems.

4) When I took mine apart to fix it, red fluid spilled out of it, NOT black oil.

5) Call your dealer before you put oil in YOURS and ruin it. Maybe the guys whod esigned the thing can get some sense into you.

As for the sixty-years comment, that's just ludicrous. I mean come on, a 60yr old guy using new-millenium slang for a nick? HAHA!

Now befor eyou go off feeling like a total idiot, I will say that older models (prior to 1980) may have used oil in the transfer-case, but I have no idea why they would. Now before you post more bullsh*t, please get the CORRECT information from your local dealer. It isn't good to go around posting stuff that even an idiot who doesn't know engines knows to be false.



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6/08/2004
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ATF+4 is the correct fluid to use in your transfer case



Sephiroth
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6/08/2004
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Thanks Brad, I was wondering why nobody else had replied. I mean what if the original poster had thrown oil into his tranny and ruined it?



DAHEMIKOTA
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6/09/2004
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22 years at Chrysler Engineering,Power Plant Development. Your whole sh!t mouth conversation is about calling trans fluid "oil". Thats been done quite often. You say you took your truck in to the dealer to get the FLUID and filter changed? If you know so much about it , why didn't you change it yourself? Where did you add FLUID to the transfer case? I think you had the dealer fix the thing because you really don't know sh!t about "mekanix".You figured out how to open the hood, now your an expert.HAHAHA



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6/09/2004
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looks like Sephiroth's cage is rattled LOL



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6/09/2004
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OK, Now you got this old fart going...You said "I know the thing uses transmision-fluid for a thousand reasons" Well,.... start giving some reasons.Also when you get a little time look up the word "fluid" and the word "oil" in the dictionary. If you need some help getting reasons for using transmission-fluid I can give you the phone number for the transmission lab at DaimlerChrysler Engineering



Sephiroth
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6/09/2004
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OK retard, let me post something that YOU originally posted. You are trying now to change what you originally said.

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Make sure there is oil in the transfer case. It does not share the trans oil. There is a plug on the case that you take out to check the oil level. The oil should be even with the threads in the plug hole when the truck is level. A lot of people check the trans dip stick and think it includes the transfer case. The trans can be full, while the transfer case is empty. Just my two cents. Dan

Look at your first post if you think I edited it. You CLEARLY say "Make sure there is OIL in the transfer case." All I have said the entire time is that you do NOT use oil in the transmission. If you did know what you were talking about you would know that the transfer-case gets tranny-fluid from the transmission. I cannot vouch for GM and/or Ford products, so you may be right, ON THEM. This is a Chrysler product and the transfer-case gets fluid from the transmission. It is SHARED.

Actually, I've done a valve-job myself, and I plan on rebuilding my 5.2L later this year. I brought my tranny in for work for a number of reasons including the fact that at that time, I had no information on the transmission and jumping into it blind is a sure-fire way to screw it up. I also didn't have time to learn it on my own because I work for a living and needed it done FAST. However, I have replaced the rear seals on my transfer-case to stop the leak. I've also had my differentials apart and they're back together now, and working fine.

No, I am not 100% perfect when it comes to the vehicle, but I do know that you saying oil goes into the transfer-case is dead f*cking wrong. As Brad stated earlier, the transfer-case uses the same crap your tranny uses, ATF+4.

Why the hell don't you post some damn fact for a change? I've posted experience and fact, and you continue to bash and claim you're right, and now you've even been caught lying. You now claim I am right and tranny-fluid goes into the transfer-case, and that that is what you said, when everybody on these forums can clearly see your original post. Then to justify yourself you tell me to look up 'fluid'. Well hell, why not just look up fluid and piss? I mean if any FLUID will go into the damn thing, I'll fill mine with piss next time. Stop trying to change the damn post to suit your needs. You're WRONG, nobody holds it against you.



DAHEMIKOTA
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6/10/2004
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You really got a thing on the use of "oil/fluid" don't you. Look back and you will see I was just telling him to make sure there is "lubricant" in the transfer case.I used that word so stupid a$$es will have something to pick on besides their a$$. Now tell everyone how you filled your transfer case with whatever you fill it with. Better yet quote the service manual on how to fill 1. the transmission and 2. the transfer case. Now carefully look at the illustration of the transfer case and note where the juice level is in relation to the transmission juice. It seems that the level on the dipstick is a slight bit above the level indicated for the transfer case. Also taking a rear axle apart involves more than removing the cover. You never said why trans lube is used in transmissions and not engine lube. Theres a bunch of words for you to pick on. Go for it. P.S. Haynes manual Illustration number 17.1. You will find a simular one in the Mopar manual. You actually did a valve job,eh ? I'm impressed. Piss will work if you drink the right stuff the night before. How come you said you fixed your transfer case and then you said the dealer fixed it ? I bet everyone is getting entertained by this sh!t LOL or is it HAHAHA



Sephiroth
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6/10/2004
22:32:21

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Read the post. I had the dealer change my tranny fluid and filter. You've shown us all how very ignorant you are now. You can't even read.

"2) When I had the dealer replace my fluid and filter, He brought me out into the garage to show me the transfer-case starting to leak and told me that they were going to fill it up, but it would drip through the leak so i needed to watch it until I got it fixed."

Never said I had the dealer do that. They wanted $260 for that job. Much cheaper for the gaskets and doing it yourself on a day off. Anything else you want to try to manipulate into your own twisted world view? I mean everything you've stated is stored on this site and you cannot go back and edit your posts, so it only shows you as being a liar, a poor reader, and somebody who is trying their damndest to be manipulative so they don't look stupid. Saying "I'm sorry, I was wrong" shows more maturity than lying and saying the opposite of what is posted not four posts prior for the world to see.



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6/11/2004
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You need help..You are obviously very young. When you get out of school you should see a shrink. Bye



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6/11/2004
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Hey Sephiroth , Go to the General Board...
There is someone else you can correct about trany fluid/oil. I think his name is Harry. May as well be a total a$$hole..



Sephiroth
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6/11/2004
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You two aren't worth my time. I've shot down everything DAHEMI put up with his own previous posts, and if anybody is dumb enough to put oil into a transmission component, they deserve what they get. End of discussion.



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6/11/2004
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Sephiroth , you crack me up! as i said earlier, i own a 99 ram with a 318 and a 46re tranny. i know some dakota's came with this same setup. the transfer case "fluid" does not mix with the tranny "fluid". in the service manual for this truck it shows two (2) different lubricants. the tranny has been updated to ATF+4 and the transfer case is dexron||(i think it is know called dexron|||) tranny fluid. if the tranny and transfer case shared "fluids" why would you have two places to fill and two places to check??? take a chill pill, you need it



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6/11/2004
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Wrong again. I just spent thirty minutes researching the matter, and I was right, yet again. However, OLDER transfer-cases DID use oil. Some even used gear-lube! So yeah, I was 100% right in saying mine used tranny-fluid, WHICH IT DOES. However, I cannot say the same for every single transfer-case out there, which I didn't. However, knowing that the older transfer-cases and some newer ones use oil or gear-lube, I would tell the original poster to ask his local dealer or get a service-manual for his specific model.

This debate is stupid now. I was right for my model, which is what I was going by. That was y mistake. I assumed that the newer Dakotas, which mine preceeds, would be of a similar setup. I was wrong. However, to the extent that you guys are taking it, you are dead wrong! Your RAM may use oil, mine does not. So in essence, we are both right to an extent. As I said before, I sure as hell don't know everything, but I DO know my truck!



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