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new dodge guy
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3/02/2004
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 Subject: genII 318 to genIII 360
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Heya guys, I have a 93 dakota with a stock 318, but I also have a 2000 Durango 360. I know I'll need a custom converter to run my stock tranny, but what about wiring and computer issues. What is the easiest and/or best way to do this? Any help would be great! I need all I can get. By the way, I have both computers and both engine harnesses, so i can go either way. Oh, and after the swap, I'll be selling the 318 and stuff, so if anyones interested, im taking offers. Thanks again!
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gen1dak
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3/02/2004
23:00:33
|  RE: genII 318 to genIII 360
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Why not use the 360 converter and flexplate?
Unplug the year 2000 harness and plug the '93 harness in, while noting which sensors'connectors have been changed and then use the appropriate '93 edition. Use an OBDI('92-'95) computer for 360 and it'll plug right into where your 318 computer is now.
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new dodge guy
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3/03/2004
01:40:03
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because the the flexplate and the converter are not compatable, and the 93 tranny has a different type of torque converter engagement, one is a slot, one is a D style. will I lose power going with the older type computer? the durango is rated higher powered than 92-95 360s, by 15 horsepower, I think?
Thanks guys
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b1llyw
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3/03/2004
20:38:57
| RE: genII 318 to genIII 360
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You can use your converter and flexplate. You can have weights put on your converter to balance the combo. The weights and instructions only run about $15 from Mopar.
For a computer, your best choice would be a '93 Ram 360 computer if you can get one. A '94 or '95 would also work fine. OBD1 pcm's are generally more performance friendly.
Rewiring your truck for that Durango harness would be more of a hassle than it's worth.
Bill White - KRC Performance
'95 CC 4x2, SLT - 408 is done, truck isn't
'03 Ram 1500 QC 4x4 Hemi Off-Road
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gen1dak
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3/04/2004
00:24:06
| RE: genII 318 to genIII 360
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Slot? D style? Huh? If you use the flexplate and TC from the Durango 360 as a pair, it's not an issue. The weights are on the flexplate and the converter is a zero-balance unit. Where you get into trouble is trying to mix and match pre-'96 TC and flexplates with post-'96 TC/plate. The bolt pattern was changed and the weights were moved.
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new dodge guy
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3/05/2004
16:47:43
| RE: genII 318 to genIII 360
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I know, however the input shaft on the 93 tranny is different than the input shaft on 2000 durango, which is why I would just have a custom torque converter made. It would have the front of a 2000 durango, but have the back of a 93 dakota. The local race shop says 250 and it will be completely rebuildable. since autozone wants like 150 for the cheapest one they make, I figure I cant really go to wrong.
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gen1dak
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3/07/2004
00:02:31
| RE: genII 318 to genIII 360
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Okay, I was out today actually putting the engine in my Dak, when I got ta lookin' at the '89 A500 and 2000 46RE trannys. I see what you mean now about the D-style vs slot. So, why not use an early style TC/flexplate for 360? You're not gonna lose power with an early computer.
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new dodge guy
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3/07/2004
21:47:20
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because the crank to flexplate bolt pattern is slightly different on the gen 3 360s, however, I will use the early computer. Any thoughts on stock or after market computers anyone? Best place to buy?
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gen1dak
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3/07/2004
23:54:15
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Uhhh, no. When swapped as a pair, they are compatible. Mopar requires a sticker be applied when the later combo is used on an earlier unit, such as a warranty repair. The offset pattern was on the torque converter, not the crank. The "little sticker" states that the unit in question is a later unit with 90 degree bolt pattern. So, once again, as long as they are used as a pair, the early TC and flexplate for 360 may be used. Or, the 318 TC/flexplate you have with 360 balance weights added.
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