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MoparMadness
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2/24/2004
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What weight oil does the 318 need and what oil would you recommend for best performance
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bakindak
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2/24/2004
22:06:37
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10w-30 is the recommened weight for the engine. Use a good synthetic oil, will give you the best preformance. As for a particular brand, I dont know what to say, everyone has a preference. Most agree though that amsoil is the best
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R/TBlues
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2/24/2004
22:29:38
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I've had great succes with Mobile 1. If you buy the new Mopar Performance case of synthetic it says Mobile 1 on the side of the box. It's also what comes in the Viper.
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2/25/2004
06:44:25
|  Oil -- Viscosity -- Amsoil Synthetic Oil & Filters
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Use 10w-30 and adjust for your climate if necessary (see below).
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VISCOSITY ... in the general term is defined as " a fluids resistance to flow". it's a measure of the internal friction of the fluid or the resistance to the movement of one layer of molecules relative to an adjacent layer.
THE LOWER (SMALLER or FIRST #, as in "10w-_) NUMBER.. is the Cold Cranking measurement, made at low temperatures, using a concentric cylinder viscometer to predict the oils cranking resistance in an engine during cold starting.
The measuring devices, or viscosmeters, most often used are in the form of close-fitting concentric cylinders. The fluid being evaluated is placed between the cylinder walls, the outer cylinder is held stationary and the inner cylinder is rotated. The speed of rotation is measured for a given force to calculate the viscosity, most commonly reported in cp or centipoise units. Also known as Absolute Viscosity.
THE HIGHER (BIGGER or SECOND #, as in "-30") NUMBER...is commonly measured in capilary tubes, in which the time for a fixed volume of fluid to flow through the tube under gravity at operating temp (100c)is measured and reported as cSt or centistokes. This is used most commonly to report the normal operating viscosity of motor oils or the higher number.
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All metal engine parts need to be separated from each other while moving in order to prevent friction and wear on the parts. This in done in modern production engines using a thin film of oil (usually less than 1/10,000 of an inch thick). Oil’s viscosity, in part, determines how thick a film the oil will form between moving parts, and how much friction there will be between those parts when separated by the oil.
Higher viscosity means thicker oil films and more friction within the oil. Obviously, one wants a viscosity high enough to prevent parts from grinding against each other, but no higher than that, because any more results in excessive friction within the oil, leading to excess heat and power loss. The ideal oil would provide the minimum required viscosity under all conditions.
Unfortunately, an oil’s viscosity diminishes with increasing temperature, necessitating the use of an oil which will have the minimum required viscosity at the highest expected temperature, and greater than optimal viscosity at lower temperatures.
I will repeat the following (but in different words) ... the first number, preceding the ‘w’ (for Winter), is an oil’s viscosity grade, is an indication of low-temperature performance -- the lower the better. The lower winter viscosity grades will be more valuable in colder climates. 10w- generally flows and pumps fine at four degrees below zero on the Fahrenheit scale, and each grade below that buys you another nine degrees. Synthetic oil is vastly superior to conventional oil in its low-temperature pumpability, high-temperature stability, long-drain capability, and high lubricity (low friction).
The second number represents the oil’s high-temperature viscosity, but higher is not always better! One wants to choose the minimum viscosity that results in an oil film thick enough to prevent wear at the temperatures one expects to encounter. Only the engineers that designed the engine know what viscosity is required to provide adequate film thickness without unnecessary friction, so you should certainly try to remain within manufacturers guidelines. For what it’s worth, I trust the engineers.
It is almost certain that higher viscosity oils, such as Xw-40 and Xw-50, are complete wastes of energy, placing undue strain on your engine, and raising operating temperatures for no real benefit.
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" __W- " is a viscosity GRADE, not a viscosity MEASUREMENT.
When testing for cold fluidity, the temperature is lowered approximately 5 degrees centigrade between each test.
The Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity is tested at:
-20 C for 10W-
-25 C fpr 5W-
-30 C for 0W-
It is my understanding that the oil has to be labelled at the lowest temperature it meets the specifications.
It may not be long before someone comes out with a " -5W-30 " which would correspond with -35 C.
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Don't forget to use the best filtration ... Dirt is Enemy # 1.
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AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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2/25/2004
06:53:33
| Amsoil Synthetic Oil, Filters, Gear Lube, ATF
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MoparMadness,
What year 318 do you have?
I can post additional information.
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Also, If you would like to request a FREE AMSOIL CATALOG, click my link below:
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MoparMadness
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2/25/2004
07:45:15
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I have 1999 318
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MoparMadness
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2/25/2004
07:55:30
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Since we are on the topic, what would you consider to be the best oil filter?
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2/25/2004
08:23:30
| 1999 DODGE DAKOTA 5.2L 8-cyl, Amsoil Synthetic Oil
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1999 DODGE TRUCKS DAKOTA 5.2L 8-cyl VIN Code Y
FLUID CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........5.0 quarts[1]
Cooling System, Initial Fill..........14.0 quarts
Automatic Transmission, Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
42RE..........10.0 quarts
44RE..........10.0 quarts
46RE..........10.0 quarts
Manual Transmission, NV1500..........4.6 pints
Manual Transmission, NV3500..........4.2 pints
Manual Transmission, AX-15..........6.5 pints
Differential, with 7.25 ring gear Rear..........3.0 pints
Differential, Front..........3.0 pints[3]
Differential, with 8.25 ring gear Rear..........4.4 pints
Differential, with 9.25 ring gear Rear..........4.9 pints
Transfer Case,NV231..........2.5 pints
Transfer Case,NV242..........2.7 pints
1. After refill check oil level
2. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all
gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid
as needed.
3. Fill no higher than 1/2 to 5/8 inch below fill plug.
TORQUES --- if you are going to DIY
Oil Drain Plug.....20 ft-lbs
Transfer case
Fill Plug.....35 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....35 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission AX-15
Fill Plug.....27 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....27 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV3500
Fill Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
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2/25/2004
08:30:53
| Oil Filter Manufacturers - Amsoil SDF Oil Filters
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MoparMadness,
First, Let's discuss Oil Filter Manufacturers:
Many Dakota owners (and others) are trying to figure out how many different oil filter manufacturers there are, and which manufacturer makes what brands. From what I can gather, here is what is out there:
Honeywell - makes Fram (In Canada the Quaker State filters are Fram filters / In the USA, QS is Purolator), Pennzoil, Quaker State
Arvin Meritor - makes Purolator Premium Plus, PureONE, Ford OEM, V-1 & SureFlow (Superflow?)
Dana - makes Wix and Napa Gold/Silver, AC Delco DuraGuards for Canada
Baldwin (Parent of Hastings) - Baldwin, Hastings, Amsoil, Casite, maybe others
Champion Labs - Mobil 1, K&N, Supertech, AC Delco DuraGuards (two different types) for USA, Bosch Premium, STP, Ultraguard Gold, Deutch & Luberfiner
Cummins Engine - owns Fleetguard
Mann - a top quality German filter maker (for our many German Friends on this site).
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I will be back after breakfast to make specific recommendations.
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DakotaEnthusiast
2/25/2004
10:19:55
| Amsoil SDF Motor Oil Filter - Synthetic Oil
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Coffee was hot and strong! :-)
A $5 filter, then Bosch Super Premium or Wix. Reasons: Top notch construction, good filtering, and good flow. (The PureOne is in this price range too, but I've got issues with restricted flow in the PureOne because of the densely packed media.)
And if your budget is $7 (preferred customer price) Amsoil SDF oil filters.
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AMSOIL oil filters are made by Hastings, which is a subsidiary of Baldwin. Baldwin still manufactures and markets under both the Baldwin and the Hastings name (Hastings and AMSOIL are made in the same plant in Nebraska) . Baldwin representatives told me that the AMSOIL oil filters use a better grade of filter media, found in only a VERY FEW of the Baldwin filters - simply a matter of economics - it costs more - therefore the reason for the higher AMSOIL Filter price (not a middleman markup).
Amsoil filters are not Hastings! The confusion is that Amsoil also markets the Hastings brand so their dealers will have a source for EVERY filter application imaginable. Amsoil offers and sells Hastings filters but WILL NOT sell Hastings filters for which there is an equivalent Amsoil filter.
When AMSOIL went to Baldwin/Hastings with the specs for the "then new" Mobil 1 oil filter, Baldwin told them that they could certainly manufacture filters that could outperform it, simply by changing to the new synthetic media - which they did for Amsoil - which is why many feel the Amsoil Filter is superior.
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Amsoil Super Duty Oil Filters (SDF) offer all-around better filtration and protection than conventional filters. Full flow design for extended drain intervals and severe service. Our filters contain a high-tech blended filtration media composed of cellulose, synthetic and glass fibers. The media sets the Super Duty Filter apart from conventional filters in capacity, efficiency and service life, delivering superior filtration and protection.
The AMSOIL Super Duty Oil Filter (SDF) is designed to provide maximum filtration while meeting the high flow demands of modern automobiles. The AMSOIL SDF contains a special cellulose, synthetic and glass blend media that offers the best possible balance of long life, high capacity and overall efficiency.
The AMSOIL SDF has a lofted fiber depth-type media that traps dirt throughout its entire thickness for exceptional filtering efficiency. It keeps oil clean and free of wear-causing contaminants.
The AMSOIL SDF has a heavy-duty case of drawn steel. The case is double-crimped at the base with rolled-under seaming to withstand extreme pressure surges and road shocks.
The AMSOIL SDF has an anti-drainback valve that keeps trapped contaminants in the filter when the engine is not running.
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mesman
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2/25/2004
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you could buy a balwin B34 less than $5.has any one tried the B2 for fit,yet?
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Bobby Patten
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9/18/2011
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is it harmful to run valvoline vr 1 racing oil in a stock 2000 dodge 5.2 l 318?
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