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slinky
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1/29/2004
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I'm looking into getting an atv and am wondering what brand and model to look into. Also I have a 4.7 with the 6'5" bed and am wondering if it's better to tow one or carry one in the bed. Will loading it on ramps be too heavy for the tailgate? Any info would be appreciated. Also I'm leaning towards the Yamaha Wolverine, if any of you have owned one, some pluses and minuses. Thanks.
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chris staples
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1/29/2004
10:37:23
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we have 3 four wheelers and we hall them in the back of are trucks all of the time inless you dont think your truck will handle it i think the best four wheelers out there our yamahas what kind of four wheeler are you looking to buy sport utility sport or just utility
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slinky
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1/30/2004
01:19:43
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I'm looking for sport-utility. Thats why i was looking at the Wolverine. What is your opinion on the polaris sportman models?
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slinky
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1/30/2004
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I'm looking for sport-utility. Thats why i was looking at the Wolverine. What is your opinion on the polaris sportman models?
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chris
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1/31/2004
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we own one polaris and my uncle has a 500 ho sportsmen that he bought last year he hates his sportsmen its doggy it doesnt handle good it leans alot like feels very unstable my friend owns a older sportsmen 400 a 96 and he really likes it the new ones thought are just to high and your just not geting what you payed for the my fourwheeler is a 350 warrior which is like the wolvirine without the racks and four wheel drive my four wheeler is great it is a 98 modle and i have had one bit of trouble my father owns a 660 grizzley and he loves it and its the same price as the sportsman 500 ho that my uncle bought but the 660 is atleast twice the machine we also own a trail boss 325 it has been a good for wheeler so far its only 2 years old i dont like the newer sportsmen modles at all. whe wolvirine is nice but it depends on what you want it to do if i was going to get a four wheel drive i would probley buy a 350 big bear there a couple of years old but there real nice they have 400 big bears now there a little higher and if you want to spend about 6000 for a new 450 kodiak or even better for 7000 the 660 grizzley if you tell me what your going to use it for i might be able to tell you which one would suit you best the wolvrine is more of a runner not really made that much for hunting and such but what ever you buy dont buy a bombardier there the biggest peace of sh!t you ever seen i own one. like i said the older sportsmen are okay but the new one just handle bad and dont have any punch to them i wouldnt waste my money on a new one from 2000 back there ok
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janesy
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1/31/2004
10:53:19
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suzuki vinson 500.
Outpulled all of the above, including the 660, in many pulling matches, and numerous sled weights and designs. stock too
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chris
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1/31/2004
17:11:39
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yea the 500 vinson my friends uncle that lives right down the road from me has one and i think your full of sh!t i wouldnt own the hunk of chunk it wouldnt pull a cat out of paper bag give me a brake. sides that ive raced the guy on the 660 not alone does it stomp it his wont even pull a wheelie like the 660 comeing off the line i wouldnt own any suzukie and i dont know what you pulled but when i hooked up to him thing mine drug it down the street so i dont know what the hell your talking about i guess you think that vinson will pull a snow sled better or something right
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janesy
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1/31/2004
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A sled is what you pull during any pulling contest, be it with trucks, tractor or anything. So i guess if you don't know what that is than you've never been to a pull. So then you also wouldn't know that the 660 spins the tires too much and can't pull the sled out of the hole. If you can't get the sled to move because you've spun out than you lose. If you don't even know what your talking about than maybe you shouldn't flame. People might take you serious if you learned to use any one of the numerous punctuation keys on your keyboard. Generally they are used to start and stop sentences.
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2/02/2004
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MJM
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2/02/2004
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kawi 650 or 700 prairie v-twin. if you want torque this thing has it. add a 1" lift kit and vampire mud tires(w/wheels) and it will go anywhere.
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2/02/2004
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350 Vortec
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2/02/2004
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GraphiteDak
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2/02/2004
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We have a few basic all-around Quads.
A 250 two-stroke Polaris (top heavy!) for the wife and I have a 350 Warrior. The Warrior doesn't have the power of a Raptor or Banshee but it is the most balanced all-around bike I have riden. My friends and I sometimes go into some really nasty back roads, rocky and all. That Warrior has kept me on the ground so many times when I should have wrecked. I love the Banshee's for all mighty power at the Dunes, but I like my electric start, reverse, and low end power when I am off road. Plus mine does pretty good at the dunes.
Anyway. I tow my two Quads plus a Honda 70 we also have for the kids with my QC 4X4 Dakota all the time. That truck kicks a$$ over the other guys in the Tahoes and similar. I'm impressed with the 4.7 and I can't wait to see how she runs after the cam swap.
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RT360
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2/02/2004
22:05:26
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Polaris=JUNK also know as Poolaris
For reliability I would go with Honda or Yamaha, these are two brands that have very low warranty claims. Suzuki is getting much better along with Kawasaki after the merger of the two corporations. Stay away from junk polaris, I have never seen a happy polaris owner, also the resale on Polaris is horriable.
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MJM
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2/03/2004
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actually, kawi and suzuki never "merged". they are sharing ideas and units in order to save money. neither co.'s own any shares in the other. honda is the only co. to make money in the bike/atv division.
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RT360
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Well if you want to get technical it would be considered an alliance, but it is definitly a merger of ideas. Kawasaki and Suzuki are making money in this division as stated in powersports news, I suggest youfind your local dealer and ask for a copy of his powersports news to check the market share and profitability reports for 2003's fiscal year which can also be found online.
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Tokyo, Japan - The Kawasaki-Suzuki alliance - created to allow the two brands to share certain production platforms, related sourcing, and engage in selected product co-development - was announced last August and will begin to take form by the middle of this year. Alliance planning is moving along as was anticipated and will be recognized as a significant contributor to Kawasaki dealers’ growth opportunities beginning in 2002.
The initial benefit of the alliance - which is similar to business models employed in the automotive industry - will be in Kawasaki dealers’ ability to offer a broadened product line, specifically with off-road and dual-purpose motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles. Kawasaki dealers will be able to offer consumers branded youth and sport ATVs, as well as additional small and mid-sized motorcycle models.
There has been speculation from uninformed sources regarding the extent to which the alliance will affect other product segments, which is unfortunate. When the announcement was first made in Japan, the two companies were very clear that certain models - such as super sports motorcycles - would not fall under the alliance umbrella.
It is expected that Suzuki will issue similar details of the arrangement to it U.S. dealer group in conjunction with Kawasaki's impending notification. Their announcement will detail the product expansions to the Suzuki line that the alliance generates.
Kawasaki will continue to build on the existing equity in its brand and its individual model name recognition, and will focus on offering consumers the widest-possible choice of models. This will be a key component in enhancing profitability for Kawasaki dealers. At the same time, Kawasaki customers will be able to strengthen their relationships with their dealership, which will be positioned to better serve their needs.
The two brands will combine some development efforts to take advantage of efficiencies that otherwise would be absorbed independently, and would necessarily lengthen the time required to bring new products to market. This will be a benefit to consumers who will be able to purchase a broader range of new and updated models that maintain the uniqueness inherent to the Kawasaki brand.
Kawasaki has a proud heritage and this alliance gives it support needed to continue to build on it as it moves forward. The entire arrangement is predicated on allowing both brands to maintain their respective character and simultaneously increase the impact they have in an increasingly competitive marketplace.
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MJM
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2/03/2004
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actually , i work for a dealer (kawi/honda) and know the actual numbers and how they are broken down, division by division.
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GraphiteDak
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2/03/2004
18:39:35
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The Polaris is for my wife.
I drive the Yamaha. It seems to be tough as sh*t too.
Everyone who has riden my wifes Polaris has wrecked it (flipped!)
My bro in law came to the dunes the last time and rode the Polaris. He went home in an ambulance and a BAD compound fracture just below his knee. He's got a plate and screws in it. He is currently going through some bone graphs. He allready had to have some muscle and skin graphs. Ouch!!! The Polaris didn't get damadged. It continued to run even upside down!
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chris
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2/04/2004
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before i got my 350 warrior i had a 250 trail blazzer polaris is that what you have. mine did not feel so top heavey and it was pretty fun through the trails because of the automatic and handleing but my main problem was that it just didnt have enough power i put a dg exhaust system and jetd it and installed a k&n filter no help there just made it a little faster on top end wouldnt do it agin if i had the chance but my warrior i really do like it doesnt handle as well through the trails and when i try to jump stuff on it it goes all un balenced in out of control its also alot harder to get air on it the polaris was very good at jumping but i still like the warrior much better. i recently put on a 12 tooth sprocket 1 tooth smaller then it had on it. it made a big differnce in accleration the warrior is amazing in the water it floats if the water get to deep most im sure you think im fool of shnit but it floats it has also been very forgiveing to me when i mess up once i jumped off the top of this hill and landed on my back two wheels and it just took the hit and i kept going in the polaris ofbeen dead sense it weights so much more and doesnt have near the shocks
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2/11/2004
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GraphiteDak
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2/11/2004
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I have a much better time jumping the Warrior. The Polaris is too scary feeling.
The Warrior is what I normally ride. The automatic Polaris is for the wife. She didn't want to shift.
After having to put my brother in law back on the Polaris to get back to camp from the middle of the dunes (at night) with his bones hanging out, I don't jump anything much any more.
I have taken the Warrior in pretty deep water, but not above the seat and never felt it try to float. I've heard of such sh*t, but never seen it.
I tried a different sprocket once too. Was one more tooth on the front and it made such a difference that it didn't feel like it had sh*t for power once in 6th gear so I put the original back. The first gear on these things is so low that you can start in 2nd in most cases.
Here is what happens when you DO get hurt:
This photo was taken soon after his first surgery.
This photo a few weeks later.
He now has a long metal rod down his shin bone with some screws.
He just had another surgery to do a bone graph where they took bone from his hip, made some mush and put it in his leg where some of his bone had vaporized from the ATV accident.
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