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2k1R/T
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12/16/2003
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I have heard info here and there, but nothing really concrete. Are they coming out with the R/T in 2005 or are they making an SRT-8 Dakota instead?
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canada-tom
Dodge Dakota
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12/19/2003
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Was at my chrysler dealer today and talked to two different salesmen. They both told me the R/T is gone for 05. They also said there will be a hemi option for the Dakota in mid 05.
Also had my 97 Dakota in for a oil/lube and the mechanic said my upper ball joints are loose. The truck only has 76K kilometers (50K miles).
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MopaREV
Dodge Dakota
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12/20/2003
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Gen IV Dakota will debut around September......a whole year later is when the SRT-8 version will debute.
Check out the GEN IV section at www.dakotausa.com or www.dakota-durango.com
There you will find information along with just about all the Spy and Photoshopped pics there is out of the new Dakota.
I update the info as soon as I get it.
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matt
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
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I really like the r/ts and im only 15 and i want one so i hope there is one coming out in 05 for me if they are still 26000 then ill buy one
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5-speed
Dodge Dakota
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12/22/2003
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Don't waste your money on an r/t. dont get me wrong, They are sweet ass trucks, they just arent worth the money. A 318 5 speed with 3.92 gears will take an r/t by about 1/2 second in the quarter. I've beat at least 10 r/t's including my old one I sold to my buddy. all the money you save can go into the motor, and you will beat lightnings. Just a thought.
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2K1R/T
Dodge Dakota
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12/23/2003
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5-speed
I have a 2001 R/T right now. People say that the R/T's aren't as much as they are made out to be, but so far mine has been good to me. I have non R/T dakota's pull up to me all the time thinking that they can hang and I blow them away. I don't know, maybe they don't know how to drive. Also, the R/T's really aren't that much more expensive than an SLT club cab. Some are even cheaper. But the new R/T's or SRT's coming out are supposed to be a lot faster than the current R/T's. I plan on getting another one. It's worth it.
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02R/T
Dodge Dakota
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12/23/2003
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5-speed
Your right. From the factory they are not that fast. But if you like to mod then they are a perfect start. I have many mods done to my 02 club cab R/T and I've run a new best of 13.50 in the 1/4mi in not so great conditions. That's on stock cam & heads with no blower or juice. Something tells me it wouldn't be all that easy to get your 318 into the 13s with no power adders. And if lightnings are what your after I've taken many on the street and at the track.
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Zach
Dodge Dakota
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12/23/2003
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Went to the Dodge Dealer today with my buddy who was looking into buying a Ram. The salesman thought that there might be a turbo something to replace the RT. Although I dont really believe him after he told me his Neon (NOT SRT-4) with a chip and intake keeps up with Vipers (He was dead serious, it was hard for me to keep back from laughing). Hopefully they will bring back some sort of higher performance, special edition Truck for people like us.
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MopaREV
Dodge Dakota
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12/23/2003
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No FI Dakota will be out any time soon.
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Mojo
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12/24/2003
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im not getting how you say "A 318 5 speed with 3.92 gears will take an r/t by about 1/2 second in the quarter." when an r/t is a 360 5 speed with 3.92 gears and will never get beaten by a 318... thats stock , add a lil supercharger.. boom baby you got the truck
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xplikt
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12/24/2003
02:22:10
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I almost bought an R/T, but a guy in Missoula who used to be on here (Hersbird) took the one I wanted, honestly. It was yellow too, but he sold it last year. So maybe I'll get a new one I thought..
Anyways, the only reason I didn't was because of the auto, I like manual trannies a lot. Now it's too bad KRC came out with that tranny kit.. 360 would be a hell of a lot more fun to mod than a 5.2 or 4.7..
So I want one again, heh. R/Ts seem to take a lot of crap, if I lived in Spokane (where there's a track that I don't have to drive 235 miles to get to) I would own one. R/Ts are damn cool and have their use to individual people.
"add a lil supercharger.. boom baby you got the truck"
What the hell, what if the 318 added a supercharger too? And nitrous on top of that..
What if's are stupid.
People buy what they think best suits their needs and ability to buy it -- at that moment anyway. Some of you get real pissed about some of this stuff. Maybe you should look at just getting rid of what you have to put it to rest. Some people are pissed they didn't buy an R/T, other are pissed they DID buy an R/T, some just hate their Dodge..
You might take a loss financially, but at least you'll be happier in the end. If you can't afford that, then put it to rest. Be glad you have a nice truck -- you could be driving worse, like a Ford :) Kidding! Kidding... I know that'll show up in Google later.
It's almost, you can call a guy's woman ugly, but never his truck..
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out | straight piped 3rd cat | turndown tip
Full Hotchkis and RAS
Shaved emblems and antennae
150BM fan | removed clutch | HD Radiator
R/T wheels on 275/40/17 Dunlop 9000s
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Riv
Dodge Dakota
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12/24/2003
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I don't Know about you guy's but any Dak is cool. I have aN R/T regular cab bone stock it ran 15.0s since then a lot of little thing have found ther way under the hood(throttl body, accel 300+ ignition system, full exhaust, hypertech power program) its quick enough to whip up on mustangs, and honda's and that's cool by me.
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B.S. Flows
Dodge Dakota
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12/25/2003
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The Salesman said this, the salesman said that, it is nothing but BS, show me the press release from DC about the 05 Dakota having the Hemi.
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01redR/T
Dodge Dakota
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12/26/2003
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I really don't know what your talking about when you say your 318 will take an R/T. I have a 98 reg. cab dakota 318 5 speed and an 01 R/T. There is no comparison, I mean my 98 is fun to drive but its too damn slow. If you can take an R/T then your truck must be built or blown, its not stock. Or maybe the R/Ts you beat are automatic V6 dakotas with R/T wheels and decals. If you want to race an R/T just give me a shout.
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luvmeR/T
Dodge Dakota
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12/27/2003
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what is with all the guys on this site bashing r/t's?too expensive,too slow?for the price,its a damn good foundation to build on!hell,i bought my 02 cc r/t for 17k and it only had 4600 miles on it!and modded or not,i havent seen a 318 dak in town that could outrun me,and theyve tried.and all i have is exhaust.
plus,its alot harder to pull horsepower out of a 318 than a 360.to me 318s are just the work horse to dodge,that the beater 305s are to chevy,not even worth wasting time on!
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kickassramvan
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12/27/2003
22:04:52
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I agree,I have a 318 van and a 360 durango
the van runs 17.01 @81 mph and the Durango 5.9 runs 13.4 @ 101 mph.Of course the durango is modded,it started out at 16.8@82mph.The van 318 started out at 18.9 @ 74mph.Ive spent time and money modding both motors,many same,and every 5 hp I gain on the 318,I gain 10-15 hp on the 360.I honestly dont think the hemi will evr be around long enough to come up with all the potential aftermarket mods you can perform on the 360.where are all the 13 second hemis,right there aint none,or none I've heard of yet(maybe i saw one in truckin with a paxton,ran 13.9's or something)but there sure are plenty of 12 and 11 and even 10 second 360's,just check dragtruck.com i'm 340 out of 910.
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01Motorsport
Dodge Dakota
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12/27/2003
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The quickest Dakotas in stock form ever produced were '92-'93 RC's w/ 5.2 3:92 auto.
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luvmeR/T
Dodge Dakota
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12/27/2003
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its cool to hear that there is someone out there hot rodding mini vans and durangos!i bet those euro boys piss themselves when they get outran by a durango!thats great!
and i dont much care for the quickest dakotas in stock form.for one im not gonna have a sport truck/muscle truck,or whatever,and leave it stock!you could probably put a damn wing on a newer r/t or dak and it would outrun the 92-93.and thats sarcasm by the way!but bolt on for bolt on,a 318 cant hang with a 360,not even close.if you spend 4 or 5k on a 318 im sure it will outrun an r/t.
so i will be forever happy modding my r/t,making sure nothing smaller than a 350(thats chevy!) can hang.plus,r/t's are damn good looking.the gen of 92-93,those are some of the butt ugliest trucks ive ever seen!
and i thought 03 was the last year of the r/t.are there 04s?i hope the new daks arent as ugly as the new durangos!
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R/TBlues
Dodge Dakota
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1/12/2004
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Ladies, I like to watch cat fights but reading this forum is too much. None of you know what you are talking about. I have owned every year Dakota from 92-2002 except a 96,97, and 99. The fastest Dakota I owned was a 93cc 5.2L auto. It ran a best of 14.8. My 98 R/T would only do a 14.8. My 2000 R/T will only do a 15.0. There is a reason for this and it is the heads, ignition timing, and shift points. Dodge has the timing advanced about 4 degrees to high at wide open throttle. This causes the engine to detonate at RPM's above 4K. The knock sensor detects this and cuts back on the fuel delivery and the timing. The hotter the engine is the worse it gets. Because the heads are so restrictive the 360's power curve falls way off after 4000RPM. The 360 starts choking really hard at around 4500RPM for air. Couple that on top of the detonation problems over 4000 RPM and you have a boat anchor for an engine. The 318 suffers less from detonation for some reason. Smaller combustion chambers also promote more efficient flame throw. This reduces labor knock and hot spots in the chamber. The fact that the 318 needs less air means it can turn about 500 more RPMs before it starts to choke. Since the 360 and the 318 both use the same head it makes since that the 318 revs better. It also is more forgiving to the high 36-38 degree full advance the ediot engineers at DC think is needed for this engine. The 318 also has a lighter reciprocating mass that allows it to rev faster. Of course, the 360 has potential to make more HP. Unfortunately, the bolt on goodies that are made to make the R/T run better also fit the 318 and they were originally developed for the 318 back in 1995. The 318 responds to the bolt ons better than the 360 does. Where swapping heads will give you a 30HP gain on the 360 you will see a 40HP gain in the 318. The person that made the comment about the 318 being the work horse and the 360 being the performance engine has got it backwards. The 360 Dodge was always a truck engine. There were several good performance versions of the 318. The only 360 that ever ran was the 78 lil red. They didn't use 318 or 360 heads on that truck. They used a version of the old 340HP heads. They basically were the old 340 Cuda heads with the combustion chambers opened up to lower the compression ratio. The best thing we have today to compare to those heads back then are the R/T heads you have to buy and change out yourself. Those same heads bolt right up to the 318 and they were originally developed for the 318 back in 1995 as a bolt-on R/T kit that included the heads, intake, headers, PCM, cam, 180 stat, and I believe a throttle body was also included for about $3,000.00. For another $300.00 you could include the new intake that was supposed to get rid of that 4500-5500 dead spot at the sacrifice of some bottom end. You could buy each item seperately but it was intended to be one complete package. Dodge only claimed 250HP but independent dyno-test showed over 275hp at the wheels. That would be over 300HP at the crank. So in 1997 you could buy a 318rc 5spd for about $15k and drop a $3K R/T package off in it and still be blowing the doors off any stock Lightning or R/T today.
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R/TBlues
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1/12/2004
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I still would buy an R/T over a regular V8 Dak if they still made them. I hope they build a 2005 R/T. I hope they build a 2005 Dakota. Motor Trend said last year that 2004 was the last year for the Dakota. Dodge is supposed to do away with the mid-size Dakota. Have those plans changed? I had spoken with Dc several times last year concerning the production of a 2004 R/T. They told me they were going to make some. They lied obviously. There is a good reason for them to have renigged on their promise to build a 2004 5.9L R/T. The 4.7L was faster. In 2003 one of the Mopar Mags (I don't remember which one) did an unbiased comparison with 2 volunteer Dakota owners. One had a 4.7L Auto and the other was a 5.9L R/T. They made 6 runs and the 4.7l Dak beat the R/T all 6 times. These were both new unmodified Dakotas. The 4.7L dak didn't have posi either. I'll have to find the article. I maybe wrong but I think the 4.7L had 3.55's.I know it didn't have a posi. Most of the 3.92's are posi-track.
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Wicked R/T
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1/13/2004
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01Motorsport, You have to also remember that the gen 2 daks are also lighter than the gen 3 daks making them a bit faster.
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