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mrman
Dodge Dakota
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11/02/2003
11:27:21
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Anyone tried disconnecting the torque management request wire that goes between the engine computer and the transmission controller?(auto trans). I read about this on another board. Apparently the trans controller has sensors to monitor the input and output shafts on the trans which it uses, along with other sensors, to determine when you mash the gas at low speed/stopped conditions. The trans controller sends a signal to the engine computer to 'dial things down'. I guess it's to prevent wheel spin.
Is this true? Will it do anything?? Will it throw a code? Is it worth looking into??
Anyone have any input??
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RaZoR1
Dodge Dakota
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11/02/2003
11:51:44
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If you fink out let me know. I've put a Kenne Bell S/C on and even their shifting isn't as hard as i would like. I was told they could only firm it up so much because of the torque managment that chrystler puts on. I was also told that you could snap a output shaft..........
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Chipster
Dodge Dakota
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11/02/2003
14:50:57
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RaZoR1....I've got the pin out numbers for the
2001. I've read up on it, the Hemi guys are
doing it and the 2001 4.7's have the same set
up. I just have not had the time to try it. Let me
know I'll post it for you.
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Andrew
Dodge Dakota
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11/03/2003
01:24:12
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Imagine, if this could be bypassed how many people would stop saying "how to improve low end torque." How much power would there be to gain if it works? Keep us informed of the progress.
Andrew
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Cota
Dodge Dakota
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11/03/2003
10:19:18
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I have a 93 5.2 Dakota that is popping and banging like the spark plug wires are crossed but they are not. The cam is only about a 278 it is a turbo cam.
It runs bad enough that I can't shift it into drive with out it dieing and it won't run, in less it is revved above about 1800 rpm. It surges at any rpm and backfires above 3000rpm
As for as I know the computer just has a factory timing setting and I don't know how to get around that, if that is the problem.
I put new springs in it with about .570 lift and I have a new timing chain and gears and it is set on the middle mark. But it probably doesn’t have anything to do with that. Any body know what is going on???
Do I just need a new computer with different timing settings?
When I turn the distributor it doesn't change the spark timing because the computer adjusts it up to a certain point then dies. Turning the distributor does change the fuel timing as far as I can tell.
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RaZoR1
Dodge Dakota
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11/03/2003
11:16:11
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Let me know Chipster. I have a 2000 but it's still the same auto i think.
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Chipster
Dodge Dakota
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11/03/2003
11:46:26
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RaZoR1,
Sorry, but the computers look the
same, but they have different pin outs. You
need to find somebody with a 2000 FSM and
look it up. Take the pin out of the TCM that is
marked Torque Managemant Request.
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skitter
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
03:36:21
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what exactly would it do if it worked right? are you saying there is a torque limiter to go along with the speed limiter? my god! it's like they give you a better motor that they don't want to be better, so they put all these limiters on it.next year there will be a midrange limiter to match the rest.
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Lurkin
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
11:23:48
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The Torque Mgmt Request Sense pin on the 2002 TCM is pin 10. From the 2002 Dakota FSM...
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Chipster
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
11:48:52
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When the transmission input and output
shafts are not in sync. (your turn'ng & burn'ng),
the TCM (trans. control module) sends a
signal (torque management request), to the
PCM, to retard the engine performance, to get
things back under control to preserve that 7
years, 70,000 warranty. Removing the wire
firms up the shifts, (like a mini shift kit). This
has been done on the 4.7's and 5.7's Rams.
It should work the same on the 4.7 auto Daks,
But nobody has tried it yet. Any takers????
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mrman
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
12:01:32
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exactly how much hp/tq can the auto(the one with two 2nd gears)in my '00 4.7L Dak handle??
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maynardh
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
12:34:51
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Does anyone know which pin it is on the 2000?
I'll try it. What the hell!!
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joey
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
13:39:59
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can this be done for 5.9's also? not that we need more torque but still its always fun.
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Chipster
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
14:08:12
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mrman...The HEMI has 345hp. The most a 4.7
has NA is about 280hp, thats at the flywheel.
The guys that are doing this are the RAM guys.
Sould be OK for us guys, less hp and less
weight with the same trans.
joey.....sorry but no.
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Rolanda
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
20:02:31
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4.7 "280 HP at Fly Wheel" try 226 rwhp.Torque management is the yellow and dark green wire on the (Gray or Module 3 on the pcm)Splice into it with a simple on/off switch and run like hell,you mite get a check light then turn it on and reset the pcm!!!!!!!!!
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Chipster
Dodge Dakota
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11/04/2003
22:07:04
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Rolanda.......235rwhp is about 287hp at the
flywheel with an automatic. It's easier to pull
the wire out of the TCM connector. You can
pull it out without cutting it.
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midnightmagic
GenIII
11/04/2003
22:59:19
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module 3? is this thow closest plug to the radiator
It's Gumbo night every night with all the rice i cook!
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FLDak
Dodge Dakota
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11/05/2003
08:46:59
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Chipster;
Where is the TCM located?
Thanks...
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enigma
Dodge Dakota
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11/05/2003
09:05:44
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So whats the pin number on the 01's?
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Chipster
Dodge Dakota
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11/05/2003
11:45:04
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FLDak.......The TCM is on the passenger side
of the engine compartment, forward of the
PCM. It is silver with fins on it and has one
long connector on it.
enigma....... On a 01 Auto, it is pin 10 on the
TCM it should be yellow/dark green. Take the
connector off, push in the tabs on the side and
push the pin out.
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enigma
Dodge Dakota
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11/05/2003
12:42:10
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Alright, thanks alot!
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