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FASTDAK
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2/20/2002
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Alright folks, this is a good one. Has anyone out there put a Mopar Performance 380 horse/360 in a Dakota? I'm currently working on a '92 Dakota with the 318 and would really like to install one of these engines in the truck. My goal is to utlilize the fuel injection, but I'm worried the computer would have a fit with the 360. I've contacted the Mopar hotline and the gentleman told me the 360/Ram computer is wired differently than the 318/Dakota, so that kind of eliminates the possibility of using the Ram computer.
I did get in touch with a Mopar Performance dealer and he said that I "might" be able to use it with the 318 computer, as long as, I increase the fuel pressure, run bigger injectors, and a bigger throttle body. If that is the case, then it shouldn't be that big of a deal. I had planned on doing that anyway.
Any help will be appreciated.
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reddak318
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2/20/2002
22:39:34
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I asked the same question a couple of months ago. Fuel injection is impossible to run on those crate motors. My suggestion is to get an older 360, with the money you were going to spend on EFI build up the motor and keep it carb'd. If you search for the thread you will probably find it.
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Art
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2002
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Ive installed 3 of the 380hp crate engines,they are a nice stout engine,never in a dakota tho.I used 2 holley 4150, 750 cfm carbs and the other was a holley projection throttle body injection and it wasnt really worth the extra cash IMO,its a carb engine unless you have the tools to tune your own pcm,I doubt the stock pcm would work very well with the crate engine
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CW
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2/21/2002
09:24:12
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The stock PCM will not work. The cam is way to large for practical fuel injection use. Hell it is to big for a daily driver carbed.
2001 RC 4.7 5sp 9.25" 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm throttle body, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" cold air, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat. Electric fan Convertion, Awaiting HO cams.
Working on adjustable fuel pressure with return.
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Dak_Yoda
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2002
10:15:21
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i'm building up a '76 360 to go in my 92 dak and it's gonna be carbed. i'm just tossing as much of the elec. and comp. stuff as i can cause that stuff sucks, anyway, anyone worried about passing emissions with these things, i know the 380/360 is not legal for sale on pollution controlled vehicles.
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YA
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2002
23:23:50
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How are you gonna get all the dash gauges to work without the computer and eletronic stuff?
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kota on 20s
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2/22/2002
01:59:44
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mopar just came out with a magnum 360 MPI engine for the dakotas. its in the new catalogue. you should look in to it.
it comes with the R/T cam, M-1 intake, R/T heads, and so on
Eric
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Joe C.
Dodge Dakota
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2/23/2002
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Get the 380/360 short block and use the R/T heads. Use a Hughes Engines cam (www.HughesEngines.com) as well as the Intake and TB. Get an Autometer A/F Ratio meter and splice it into your O2 sensor. You may need larger injectors. You can get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to go on the return side of the fuel line to fine tune. If your injectors are large enough your computor will control the engine just fine in closed loop mode(below 75% throttle). You will need to fine tune fuel pressure in open loop, which is when the PCM relies on the programed fuel map, get the Mopar Performance engine PCM for your 5.2L and go from there. Trust me, I swapped a V8 into my Dak from a Ram van. I have a 93' CC 2wd with a ton of induction and exhaust mods, and I still run the stock injectors, runs a little rich at full throttle, controls perfect in closed loop.
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jeff brinkman
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11/19/2002
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I HAVE A 83 MIRADA FAKE RAG CMX GOT 70 340 X HEADS NEEDS GON THRU .THINKING ABOUT THIS 380/360 INSTEAD LIKE TO CHAT WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAS USED THIS MOTOR IN A CARBERATED UNIT.AUTO TRANS (727) THI S WILL BE A NICE CAR WHENE DONE NEED GOOD INFO. THANKS JEFF
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Brian Maier
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11/20/2002
18:40:58
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I hope that last post was a joke.....
Brian
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R Halvorson
Dodge Dakota
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1/10/2003
21:34:47
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I would like to put a 360/380 in my 1967 Charger (original owner) I read some bad things in a chat room about the quality of the crate motors. Any comments or suggestions?
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bdrake
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2003
17:07:09
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I got a 91 dakota that has a 5.2 liter 318 and I want to swap it with the 380 crate engine. As far as I know it will bolt right in, but what about fuel injection? I know that the stock injection system won't work the way it is so I was thinking about using holly projection. Any recomendations? Also, where can I get some headers that will fit? Nobody has them for a 91.
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9DakotaFreak
Dodge Dakota
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2/22/2003
00:33:34
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Try hooker Super comps They have them for 91 318 2wd
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Brad Drake
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3/03/2003
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thanks for the info on the headers.
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vern
Dodge Dakota
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3/03/2003
11:48:12
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mopar muscle just did article on the 360/380
and gave it high marks on quality and performance
march 2oo3 issue.also they did a 390+hp 340 with 4
bolt ons feb.2001.hope this answers some questions
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litlpunisher
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3/03/2003
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I am learning that there are many computer systems you can use to tune in any motor combo. I ran into the problem with my 340 and i am in the process of bying the fast or accel dfi kit. These allow you to use any injector you want. they just don't control the tranny so you can use your stock computer or perf computer for tranny and gauges etc. The allow you to be very efficient on the street and get the most perf at the track a little pricy but flashes cost about 400 and they usually band aid your problem and not fix them. As for the crate motors sounds like good horse but i believe those are still cast cranks it kind of limmits your upgrades in the futre.
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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rod loe
Dodge Dakota
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3/05/2003
21:45:48
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I have the proto type for all ya'll's v-8 dakota's // the Shelby Dakota 1989 and would like to upgrade it to today's standards.
now the big "Q",
I want to swap the current 318 to a fuel injected 360 and still make everthing work, any suggestions
thanks for ur respones
Rod e-mail monell2000@yahoo.com
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josh
Dodge Dakota
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9/14/2003
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I have a 92 dakota with the 2.9 v6 in it.I was wondering about what else i would have to change in order to put a 360 crate engine in.
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outlaw17
Dodge Dakota
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9/14/2003
23:04:30
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I know that Chrysler is clearing out its stock of Viper V-10's complete with wiring harness and computer , all for just $15,500.00 Canadian , thats only $11,000.00 for all you Americans ! Has anyone ever stuffed one in a Dakota succesfully ?
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Mark
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9/15/2003
08:42:07
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Ive seen pictures of the viper engine in a dakota. I'm sure someone will pull them up.
-Mark Hryckiewicz
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DakotaDave360
Dodge Dakota
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9/20/2003
18:14:13
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hi I Have installed a 360/380 in my 2001 dakota, it used to be a 3.9 v6 and we pulled it out and dropped a 360/380 in we had to take out the computer replace the transmission and drive shaft and put a holley 750 cfm caburator on it, and i will warn you now if you Plan on runing this as an every day driver you are in for a headache not to mention a gas guzzler i have that tuck in the shop more than i do on the road.
With that said, i need some help drove my dakota home from school last night and it ran fine but when i went outside this morning it wont crankover, the fuel pump is on, its getting gas, but the engine wont turn over can sombody help?
please contact me a millhouse19@yahoo.com
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