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BlueBayou
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2/05/2002
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Amsoil's Auto tranny fluid states that it meets and or exceeds all ATF 4 guidlines. does anybody have experience with this fluid in the the multispeed tranny mated to the 4.7 engine?
I would really like to use a synthetic fluid as the tranny bumps pretty hard when frozen solid in these crazy cleveland winters.
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Blue
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BlackDak02
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2/05/2002
15:05:12
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Check this thread:
transmission
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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Big Blue
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
15:46:31
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Yes to what BlackDak02 said and I have had it in my 2002 45RFE since 3400 miles. Not one problem.
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Blue Bayou
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
15:57:54
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Thanks BlackDak02, Nice Truck!!
But... Big Blue did not say that he was actually using the Amsoil ATF in his 4.7 Auto.
I know that Chrysler trannies are pretty picky when it comes to ATF and I don't know Big Blue, so I am unable to comment on his expertise or even to the fact that he has a 4.7 auto. No offense to Big Blue (is that short for Big Blue Oval) but I am looking for persons that may have actually done the switch.
I would love to do it, but not at the cost of my auto.
Thanks again
Blue
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Blue Bayou
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
16:07:20
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Sorry Big Blue, but you can never be to carefull with my baby!!! lol
Maybe I'm just a little paranoid, but how can the Amsoil ATF meet all of the criteria for Dexron Mercon and ATF+4? It was my understanding that they only offered one product, not mulitple formulation.
Big Blue, did you ever have any of the dreaded shift slap (usually from 1st to 2nd while lifting off the throttle) or eradic behavior (usually when the tranny has been sitting in 10 degree weather for eight hours)? Did it help?
Thanks once more,
Blue
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
20:29:09
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I am useing Redline C+ATF. It was designed specificly for Chyrslers. It even meets ATF+4 requirements. The quarts I have do not list ATF+4 but Redline Tech. assured me that it meet and exceeded the new +4 spec.
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Big Blue
Dodge Dakota
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2/08/2002
11:03:40
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I assumed that saying "I have had it in my 2002 45RFE" would mean I am using AMSOIL ATF but I guess it doesn't.? So to be more clear: In my 2002 4.7L auto trans. (45RFE) I switched to AMSOIL ATF back at 3400 miles. I have not had any problems that Blue Bayou spoke of at all, it is running perfectly, unless the eradic behavior when it has sat in cold weather (below 30 degrees) is the fact that the lock-up torque convertor doesn't engage for the first 5-10 minutes of driving. This is normal for these trans. and it still does it and I am not worried about it since it is normal(as verified with Dodge and reading threads about it here at DodgeDakotas.com) I use all of the AMSOIL products and have no complaints. Good luck with whatever brand you choose.
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BlackDak02
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2/08/2002
13:04:17
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Big Blue,
It was clear to me what you meant in your first reply.
Big Blue & sandman,
Did you change/flush the stock trans fluid yourself?
I've heard that those filters for the 45RFE are a little expensive.
Amsoil and Redline make quality synthetics and I am looking to go that way in prolonging the life of my 45RFE trans.
Thanks.
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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BlueBayou
Dodge Dakota
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2/08/2002
14:07:17
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Thanks Guys, I appreciate the help and Info!!!
I think that I'm going to have to go that route. Would you recommend flushing the converter or simply drain, replace filters, and refill?
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Blue
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BlackDak02
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2/08/2002
23:29:17
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Blue Bayou,
In this thread they say there is a special machine that flushes all the trans fluid from your system and then after changing the filters you refill with synthetic fluid:
Trans flush
BTW, Thanks for the compliment on my truck, hope this helps.
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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Big Blue
Dodge Dakota
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2/11/2002
11:15:01
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BlackDak02,
I had the dealer do a BG trans. flush when I had the trans fluid changed and they used the fluid I provided, which was AMSOIL ATF. Since the truck only had 3400 miles on it we did not pull the pan and change the filter. Flushing changes everything, convertor included. Since I have a 4x4 I unfortunately did not have enough fluid with me to drain & fill the transfer case(uses the same fluid) at the same time but I will be doing that within a month when I do an oil change. Transfer case does not get flushed out when the trans is flushed. Good luck.
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BlackDak02
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2/11/2002
11:40:07
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Thanks, Big Blue, good to know that the dealer had no problem with refilling the trans with fluid other than Mopar. Hmm, I didn't know that the transfer case takes ATF, but it should be a piece of cake compared to the tranny, IMO. Mine's approaching 3K now so I want to do it soon.
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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Blckdak
GenIII
2/11/2002
20:00:50
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Big Blue
In the tranny flush, how many quarts are needed?
Erin
2000 CC 4x4 Sport
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BlackDak02
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2/11/2002
20:21:13
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Blckdak,
durtydog said in the 'Tranny flush by dealer...' thread that his Durango took three gallons of fluid & it cost him $75 for the fluid but I think it was Mopar fluid. However he didn't specify what trans was in the Durango. I didn't know an automatic had that much fluid in it, alot must be in the torque converter.
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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Big Blue
Dodge Dakota
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2/12/2002
13:22:03
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Blckdak,
14 quarts. Bring one or two extra if you are providing the fluid just to be sure there is enough. You can always return an un-opened container. Good luck.
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Blckdak
GenIII
2/12/2002
16:38:49
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Big Blue-
So your using AMSOIL ATF+4 in the 45RFE and so far no problems? Just wanting to make sure.
Anyone else?
Thanks
Erin
2000 CC 4x4 Sport
Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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BlueBayou
Dodge Dakota
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2/12/2002
17:11:54
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Big Blue
Trust me when I say that we do believe you, but everybody that has followed these boards has had it beat into their head that the "only tranny fluid that should ever be used in Mopar 7176! accept no substitues!!".
Due to this fact, we are somewhat in disbelief... yet excited that we can use a synthetic!!
Blue
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mwm
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2002
11:08:33
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I can relate my expierence with amsoil products in my 2000 5.9L and my cousin has the same year but 4.7L. We both switched engine oil, tranny fluid, transfercase lubricant, and gear lube to the Amsoil products. I have 11,000miles on it he has about 4,000miles. We both have seen an improvement in fuel usage and the trucks seem to idle easier.
Good Luck! hope you are as happy as we are.
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Big Blue
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2002
16:46:35
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BlkDak & Blue Bayou,
I had the same reluctancy to use it also but I checked with AMSOIL concerning their ATF meeting ALL Mopar specs, even 7176 specs. They assured me it did. It's good Redline makes a compatible synthetic tranny fluid also, more choices for people. You have to be careful since all synthetics don't meet all of Mopar's specs. I have had no problems at all and I am sure if proper maintence was followed, no matter what you decided to use (meeting Mopar specs of course) you wouldn't have any problems.
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Blckdak
GenIII
2/13/2002
18:52:31
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Allright, Im convinced! Went ahead and made the appointment to get that tranny flushed. Finally can get all the fluid off my shelf. I've run AMSOIL oil for the last 20,000 miles and haven't had a problem that I've noticed. Keep my fingers crossed even though they would have to PROVE that it was the fluid that did any damage.
Erin
2000 CC 4x4 Sport
Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
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3/07/2002
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For all you guys that use Amsoil motor oil. How often to you change motor oil? I have 2001 Qad cab with 3800 miles, was thinking of switching to Amsoil motor oil, but not sure how long I should use convention oil before switching.
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amsoil dealer
Dodge Dakota
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3/09/2002
15:05:30
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To clear the air for every one amsoils atf is worth every penny it not only cuts ware in half but I have result showing a 35 degree drop in the 518/727 tranny. If u want more info or $/ dealer option ether call Me at 716-984-7550
or e-mail me at amsoildealer98@hotmail.com thanks
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