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CGlenn
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4/18/2003
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i own a 99 5.2L V.8 club cab. As on now its all stock expect for a set of hancook street tire how the hell can i modify my truck to run with a 99 sotck lighitng?
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Buddy
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4/18/2003
18:28:52
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Ok,1.Mopar PCM
2.K&N filter
3.Dual exhaust
4.Blower or 100-150 shot
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Fubar512
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4/18/2003
18:36:47
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One of the regulars on this site, has a turbocharged 3.9, and turns mid 13's with it. Another has a turbocharged 4.7, and is well into the 12's. A properly set up, turbocharged 5.2, should be capable of low 13's/high 12's.
Confucious say: Any man can pee on wall. Be a true hero and crap on ceiling! I've tried being a hero once too often...
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signman
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4/18/2003
21:07:34
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The 99 & 00 Lightnings run low 14's (like 14.2) on average if I remember right. It's the '01's and up that are tweaked out a bit more from the factory and seem to be in the high 13's (like 13.7- 13.9) for the most part.
That being said all you really need to do is get that Dak into the low to mid 14's and you'll be right with him. You might not need a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous to get you there. Your prob at what...mid 15's now. How about something like this if your on a budget:
1st: Complete exhaust! Headers, high flow cat, better flowing muffler. There are lots of different combinations out there and most are going to be better than what you have stock. You could even throw a cut-out in the mix while your doing the exhaust. Around what $700-$800 for everything installed.
2nd: Intake! Either make your own or buy a cold air intake. Same with the throttle body, either port and polish it yourself or buy one. Throw on a M1 2bl intake. Cost $600-$700 depending.
3rd: Gears! get some 4.56's to get that heavy club cab moving alot quicker. If your truck's an auto get a shift kit and Mopar 2400 stall torque converter as well. Gears installed $600
4th: Mopar PCM and 1.7 roller rockers. Around $550 for both.
OK that's a good start for about $2,500 and should knock a little more than 1 sec. off your stock time. Heck the gears alone are worth about .3-.5 sec off your time. Your not gonna smoke him with these mods, but you should be able to hang pretty close with him. This is all with the stock heads, cam, AND NO major power adder yet. When you get tied of running WITH him and want to smoke his a$$, then you add the Supercharger!
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rick sikes
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4/18/2003
22:23:20
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I have a 92 dakota w/ a 318 headers flomester 2 chamber hi flo cat , chip. K&N gen 1, jacobs ignition, traction bars. And my best time was a 13.8. Most of the time I hold nicely against lightnings on the street and better at the track. The truck is faster then most of the other daks with the sam mods. mean spirited truck. try those mods then squeeze or blo her
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Buddy
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4/19/2003
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The 4.56s will knock off about .6-.7s off if you had the 3.92s and about 1s w/3.55s.
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stanger
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4/19/2003
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i dont claim to be a expert on this, but the 99+
lightenings are all hanging around the 400hp mark.
thats stock, id be hard pressed to find very many stock lightenings running around. id be shooting for low 12s if you wanna run a mildly(pulley, chip, exhaust) modded lightening.
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Daker777
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4/19/2003
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Well, just go with k&n fipk, m1, headers, Jba or Mopars, exhaust, tb, and 100 shot- with slicks low 13s should be no problem. Thats what im running right now and beat a 01 L by almost 3 tenths in the 1/8th. 1.7 rrs would only help more.
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signman
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4/19/2003
20:10:00
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For those of you who don't allready know here's a little info on the '99-02 Lightnings.
http://www.svtlightnings.com/faq1/faq.htm#2001%20Specs
The '99 & '00 were rated at 360 HP and the '01 and up are rated at 380 HP, plus gearing was different; '01 and up got 3:73 gears instead of the 3:55's. The link above rates the '99 at 14.6 in the 1/4 mile, but I think most of the guys are actually getting slightly better numbers, more like 14.0-14.2.
Nitrous and slicks would be the cheapest way to go, and perfect if your talking about only at the strip, but their not gonna help ya out on the street. At least not legally. LOL
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TheSync
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4/19/2003
23:55:20
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Well, they would be ok if they were DOT approved slicks.
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signman
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4/20/2003
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That's what I used to think, but remembered reading something on the Delphi R/T board about them still being illegal on the street even if they are DOT approved. I did a quick search over there and found where someone posted this:
"YES ET Streets are Slicks, Read he fine print info on them YES they are DOT approved but are not recommended for highway use. DOT approval doesn't make a tire street legal, it only says that it meets a DOT minimums requirement. I've actually met a few people who have gotten tickets for MT Streets, and it stuck even in court."
The above statement wasn't met with any arquement so I assumed there may be some truth to it. I'm no cop or lawyer so I don't know if this is the "God's honest truth" or not. Just out of curiosity... anybody know for sure??
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rick sikes
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4/20/2003
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DOT is the bare minimum requirements that all states have to meet in setting there laws. But each state has there own version of the laws. so check with your local hiway patrolmen or state trooper. And even if the street slick is street legal where you are. they are soft enough to chunk if you run them on the freeway for more than 5 minutes.
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SLOWPAR
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4/20/2003
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No chance, give it up. Unless you want to spend an a$$ load of cash. Just go out and get a good performer out of the box, car or truck. SLOWPARs are not a good option to performance.
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Daker777
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4/20/2003
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Well, I live in one of the most patrolled areas in the united states and run my et streets ON THE STREET with no problems from the local law enforcement. Also, the reason they are not recomended for highway use is because the tall sidewall, they LOVE to roll in turns, and to randomly do high speed lane changes. ALthough I and several others have taken them on the freeway several times for 15-20 minutes. I would not worry about it too much, and if it is that much of a concern just get the new bfg radial slicks, or the nittos. Those are 100% legal.
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wantslow
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4/21/2003
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Hi SLOWPAR, are you a girl?
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franlofter
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4/21/2003
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First step go down to dealer trade your truck for a car designed to go fast Cobra, alot of people on here are out of control with more speed HP out of a truck, they make cars with close to 400 Hp stock this is the way to go. Imagine what all these exspensive DAK mods could do to something like that.
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rick sikes
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4/22/2003
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yes but every other loud car is a chik stang or a rice rocket. At least the daks are something original. Besides if you need a supercharger on a production vehicle that seems pretty weak. But I do know the lightnings are fast but only a regular cab version.why not that speed in a 4 door. And the harley davidson f150 is not bad but very expensive
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old school
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4/22/2003
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i could be wrong but the318 should be the same basic block that mopar has been using for years. why not check into a cam, manifold, heads or headwork, pistons, etc. i know it sounds daunting but thes mods really aren't all that hard once you get into them. i bet they would line you up against a lightning. all you guys that say get NOS and a blower watch too much fast and furious. those arent the only mods. there are other really good mods that DON'T decrease the life of your motor.
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Daker777
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4/22/2003
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The block is not the same on the 318. Close though.
Secondly- please dont say NOS. It is nitrous, if you go to any older car person and say that he will likely bi@tch slap you. Thirdly, people. please dont just shoot out answers if you PERSONALLY dont run, or have run those mods. WHy do I use nitrous? Because I spent over a year and a half just tuning my r/t with a blower dumping more and more money into it, and where did it get me? A truck that worked half the time and got shiddy gas milage. Now in 2 days I am .3 faster after putting on the NX kit (nitrous) and NO tuning yet. Why am I putting power adders on? I live in CALIFORNA, very strict emissions and NA mods besides bolt ons, are not practical. Right now I am easily in the 12s, smog legal, because of nitrous. Any add on will decrease the life of the motor. But really its just the constant abuse from romping on it. What I said in my last post WILL get you there and DID get me there.
Oh and to the guy who said to go buy a cobra? What is the point of buying horsepower? Everyone knows a cobra can go fast, but nobody suspects a truck like mine to go fast. When it does I get way more props for beating a zo6 then the lightning does. Thats why I chose my truck. For a hobby, and because it looks good. I have to drive it everyday, I only race it thursdays or saturdays.
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old school
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4/23/2003
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daker,
i am proud of you. you sound like the kind of person i could respect for using nitrous. when talking i always say nitrous unless i am making fun of F & F or some dumbass ricer. i said nos because thats what a lot of the punk kids on the other posts like to say, now that i look back over this one, nobody was saying it, i apologize. i just think it is stupid for people to talk about nitrous like they are going to turn it on everytime someone revs their engine at them and looks at them funny at a stoplight. i think its a cheap trick if you don't do any real work on your truck, anybody can do it. if you spend time tuning and working and trying to make you car/truck fast legitimately then go ahead and spray it. it just pisses me off when people say, "first i'm gonna put nos on it, then i'm gonna put a turbo on it, and then i'm gonna be special because nobody will ever beat me". those morons aren't smart enough to learn anything about how a motor works and do some real work.
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grizzly
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4/25/2003
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hey does any1 have a pic of the lightning. ive never heard of them and id like 2 see 1
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Jake
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4/25/2003
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I have a '99 318 Dak that runs mid 13's w/ 100 shot spray w/3.55's minus the A/C and added a flow 2 chamber other than that the truck is stock. Lightnings are no problems and Ram Air T/A's are left in the rearview mirror for under 10 grand!
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TIM
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4/27/2003
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you could always do what i did, i bought a lightning (i know,i know) they are really something even though it is a ford. i like my R/T alot more, i just do. i also own a heritage softtail harley and a GSXR(JAP CRAP) but faster than all of the toys. p.s. my insurance company LOVES me
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tom
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4/27/2003
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JATO (Jet Assisted Take-Off) rockets but make sure your going in a strait line.
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rick sikes
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4/28/2003
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I heard of someone trying two JATO, one on each side of a ranchero and when ignited one failed and the car spun and spun and ... well you get the idea. well at least the wall stopped him. I dont know any details but like I said I heard of someone, I do not know them. But If you have seen it happen or done reply back
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StephenK
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4/30/2003
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Hey i have a 92 Dakota swb reg cab with 318 and i have MP computer, hooker super comp headers,comp cam,MP Transmission with a 2500 stall converter and a MSD 6AL ignition with 125 hp shot of nos with the stock 3.55 rear with a powertrax locker and my best on slicks is 12.62 at 107 mph i eat lightnings regular.
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Manuel
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4/30/2003
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I know I'm commenting on a tangent here, but where did the term NOS come from? I've never been able to figure it out because it is Nitrous Oxide (NOS isn't in there anywhere), Nitrous for short and even nitro. I don't see NOS anywhere. The only thing I see that seems like NOS is NO2, which I guess could be NOS if you flip around the 2. Sorry about the rambling, just curious.
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Im guessing
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4/30/2003
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Nitous
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pat
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5/01/2003
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I dont know much about cars but i raced a '98 lightning with a shift kit, i have a '98 dak 5.2 and beat it in 1/4 mile by about 2 1/2 truck lengths!!!
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2.5ltr muscle
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5/07/2003
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nos is actually a holley product and trademarked or whatever .
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hammers
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5/11/2003
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Don't really know alot about engines but my 97 5.2 dak with virtually no mods has no trouble keeping up with anything i want to keep up with! By the way< just adding flowmasters has proven to be the easiest thing to defeat any rice rocket with nitrous. Just the sound of the 318 makes most of them jump in a ditch!. have fun love daks!
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