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hyp0cracy
Dodge Dakota
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4/17/2003
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i was just wondering if any of you guys have this kit and how much of a difference is the intercooler over none, i know it will be better, and i was wondering what kind of numbers anyone is pushing and with what other mods. is there anything i must do to get this or can i just keep stock, let me know thanx alot
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POWER HUNGRY
Dodge Dakota
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4/18/2003
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I don't have one...yet might build a turbo set-up instead, but I have been doing research on it for about a year. To see the difference the intercooler makes go to the Procharger web site http://www.procharger.com/ and click on the trans-am/mustang pic to the right of the civc si. Once you do that you can click on the head-to-head comparision to see the difference it makes. By lowering the intake temp by 80 degrees it basicly added 60 horse to the motor over none intercooled set-up. Thier 8lb kit added 58% more power to a NA mild 5.0. Thier dodge truck kits are suppose to add 55%-60% more horse to a stock motor at 8-9lbs of boost thats about 360hp.
On the same page, below the head to head test is thier basic engine spec. page with thier reccomendations. They make thier kits so you don't needed any mods but, I would get a Good set of head gaskets, ARP studs for the head, up-grade the ignition, complete exhaust(headers, cat, muffler), M-1 and a Throttle body to make the kit really shine.. 425+hp.
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graphitert
R/T
4/18/2003
21:02:11
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425+ HP from that kit as you have it configured is a pipe dream. I've seen the new kit on a Ram and ATI needs to go back and rethink that one. Due to the added space limitations, some of the issues I saw(namely the intercooler mount) would be exaggerated.
55-60% HP increase as supplied?? Not a chance.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, MP headers, Magnaflow muffler into 'Cuda style exhaust, M1 2bbl, ported 2.02 R/T heads, custom grind cam, Crower SS rockers, Paxton Novi2000, Boyd's 20s w/Dunlop SP9000s, Featured in April '03 Sport Truck
Soon: Viper 4 wheel discs
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hyp0cracy
Dodge Dakota
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4/18/2003
23:54:26
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so graphite what kind of system would you suggest, i think the ati sounds pretty good but if youve seen it then i dont know, do you like your paxton? also im looking for something that builds boost at higher rpms, i want to build my engine for a 6500-7000 redline, let me know what you think, thanx alot
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philburnmaui
Dodge Dakota
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4/19/2003
05:31:15
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graphite...paxton only gets the good numbers because of retarded timimg, race fuel and ice
enhanced intercooler. My friend says buy a corvette and get the HP stock. (by the way he put a ATI on his vette and had to upgrade his clutch
and u joints to keep them in the chassis). Dont
worry I love my Dak and told me buddy I would race
him anyday in the mud!!!
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graphiteRT
R/T
4/21/2003
20:58:09
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hyp - I like the Paxton, but keep in mind I bought the slimmed down "tuner kit" which does not include any fuel or timing components. Just the head unit and brackets, basically. I've done the fuel and timing mods myself from there.
phil - I would assume that's a typo since Paxton doesn't have an I/C for the Dodge. As a true "plug and play" kit for the Dodge, I think either the Paxton or a Vortech is a better choice for the 318/360 at this time. The ATI I saw on the Ram had some serious deficiences and you won't reliably make 425 rwhp with the stock injectors which is what they are attempting to do.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, MP headers, Magnaflow muffler into 'Cuda style exhaust, M1 2bbl, ported 2.02 R/T heads, custom grind cam, Crower SS rockers, Paxton Novi2000, Boyd's 20s w/Dunlop SP9000s, Featured in April '03 Sport Truck, Viper 4 wheel discs
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Shane
Dodge Dakota
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4/21/2003
22:01:58
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What are you using to tune your truck?
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RedR/t99
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4/21/2003
23:16:16
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After reading this on the ATI, I'd have to think twice about getting it. I'm not to crazy about the intercooler installed so low to the ground.
http://lonestar.texas.net/~bernd/Steve.htm
I too would go vortech or paxton.
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graphiteRT
R/T
4/21/2003
23:33:14
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Shane, that truck of Steve's is local to me. The intercooler was torn off the truck twice by road hazards. After the second time he threw it away.
The new ATI kit is no better than that old Golden West kit with respect to the I/C mounting.
Another feature I like about my Paxton is that it runs on its own dedicated 8 rib belt. Eat a blower belt and you can still make it home since it doesn't affect the main drive belt, not to mention the 8 rib with their tensioner setup means no slip.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, MP headers, Magnaflow muffler into 'Cuda style exhaust, M1 2bbl, ported 2.02 R/T heads, custom grind cam, Crower SS rockers, Paxton Novi2000, Boyd's 20s w/Dunlop SP9000s, Featured in April '03 Sport Truck, Viper 4 wheel discs
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graphiteRT
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4/21/2003
23:41:35
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Sorry, that last post should have been directed to Red.
To answer your question Shane, I'm working with some folks who are releasing PCM programming software to custom flash 5.2, 5.9 and 4.7 powerplants. Part of that program includes new code that specifically helps forced induction apps. So my final tune will be a custom flash, stock MAP replaced with a 2 bar MAP, new broader read O2 sensors and 36# injectors all driven by the new flash. No aux injectors, FMUs or any of the typical band-aid crap.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, MP headers, Magnaflow muffler into 'Cuda style exhaust, M1 2bbl, ported 2.02 R/T heads, custom grind cam, Crower SS rockers, Paxton Novi2000, Boyd's 20s w/Dunlop SP9000s, Featured in April '03 Sport Truck, Viper 4 wheel discs
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GRNDSM
Dodge Dakota
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12/16/2003
11:40:19
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Bob,
Any updates on that custom PCM?
Thanks,
Leon
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rtspeeddemon
Dodge Dakota
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12/18/2003
13:17:29
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Well I have the ATI Procharger on my 03 R/T. Aside from the fuel management system which is questionable the charger itself is fantastic.
The intercooler is much different then with Golden West by the way. Still a little low if you lower your truck otherwise it is fine.
Anyone wanting further details just email me.
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Eddie
Dodge Dakota
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12/19/2003
11:08:02
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List further details here. I'm sure there is other people, including myself, who would like to know more about the pro charger.
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Dano
Dodge Dakota
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10/18/2004
23:02:22
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Eddie as far as prochargers go ati-prochargers are by far the best. A few reasons why they are is that they provide that most posible HP from 60-85%hp gain, while others produce only 30-60hp gain. Also provided whit the most possible boost at 8.5psi. I just put one on my 99 R/T with 100,000miles on it and so far I have had no problems, no engine problems, just put new spark-plugs. The ati-procharger kit comes with everything you need. Plus ati have the best intercooler system that pushes the boost at 107%F, that's driving your truck at peak performance all the time, with no strain on the motor what so ever. The only down fall about the ati-procharger is were they tell you to mount the intercooler. Way to low unless your truck isnt lowered but if it is your going to mount the intercooler a few inches higher to avoid road hazords. Otherwise it's deffinitly worth the money. I bought my kit from A&A corrvette, because he gave me the best price at $3690.00(not polised)$200 extra for polised!The reason I went through his is because my friend got one for his 04' Z06. If you go through PROCHARGER direct you pay about$1500 more because that's there cost, not sure why but I guess that's what some people do because they think that it will be better but PROCHARER is were they produce and make them. People around the world sale they product and the best I found was A&A corrvette, don't waste your time buying one from superchargers4less unless $250 doesnt mean anything to you. I will let you knoe when I dyno my truck in about 2 weeks.
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rtspeeddemon
Dodge Dakota
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10/21/2004
17:02:16
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Well to get into all the details here would be extensive to say the least.
My latest dyno is 450 RWHP and 460 RWTQ.
Mods are basically this...
- ATI Procharger with intercooler 8-10lbs boost
- M1 4bbl intake
- 52X55mm F&B TB
- 55lb injectors
- Factory fuel pump, plus additional pump supplied in the ATI kit.
- Custom grind cam .514 lift
- Mopar R/T 2.0 valved heads (non ported)
- Edlebrock Headers
- Custome "Y" pipe & 3" single exhaust, no cats
- 1.6 HS RR
- Accel DFI Gen 7 Standalone system
- MSD 6a
- Taylor 8mm wires
Email me with any questions you have.
K.J
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GRDSM
Dodge Dakota
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10/21/2004
17:50:06
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BTW guys, I have a “like new” (less than 3k miles) ATI ProCharger kit for a 4x4 '97-'99 Dakota/Durango for $2300.
I tried selling it a few month back, but the only people interested in it, had RWD RT trucks. This is NOT for that application (intercooler and its plumbing is totally different). So if you have a 4x4 truck and want to make VERY, fast e-mail me at grndsm @ yahoo.com
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