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Trevor
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3/25/2003
00:22:49

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is it possible to make a duelly?



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3/25/2003
00:30:00

RE: duelly
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dually.

are you from mexico?



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3/25/2003
00:30:43

RE: duelly
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No it is for a school project




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3/25/2003
04:24:26

RE: duelly
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well I did see a pic of a dakota dually, I would assume some serious work required to get an adequate conversion, just curious here but why a dakota dually, just go buy a full size dually from one of dodge or gm



Chris
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3/25/2003
11:58:11

RE: duelly
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Anything is possible. Honestly I do not think it would be that hard if you are not looking to work the snot out of it then you are looking at dual wheels with the inner one having near stock backspacing then molding on some dually fenders and extending the fuel filler...

Gor for it man..., but if you want it to be functional I would upgrade the rear-end to something a bit stronger.

Chris



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3/25/2003
13:02:34

RE: duelly
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Considering that I've not only seen dually compact trucks and vans, but I've seen dual rear axle compact trucks and vans.

The main components of a dually setup would be a spacer to kick the bolts out a couple more inches, new rims (dually style), and massive fender flares. This would NOT however, increase the load capacity. You're still suspension, drivetrain, and frame limited.



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3/25/2003
13:43:23

RE: duelly
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I'm not looking to make it for towing horses and anything at all really. With this in mind would I have to change the suspension, or drive line.



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3/25/2003
13:48:47

RE: duelly
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not if you do not intend to work it any harder than it was originally designed... I would almost think this could be a small step backwards as far as axle bearing life is concerned...



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3/25/2003
13:52:50

RE: duelly
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so I would have to change bearings more often



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3/26/2003
02:54:57

RE: duelly
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if you undertake such a task, get yourself a ram dually and well take what you need off of the ram ie axle, tires/rims, and maybe some suspension stuff and should work, but yeah just keep in mind that it wont haul more unless you do upgrade the rest of the truck to handle the capacities, and your rear end will be super light resulting in piss poor traction



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3/26/2003
13:42:06

RE: duelly
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I've seen a Gen I Dakota with a dually conversion, years ago. I don't know any spec's on it, but like Chris said anything is possible.



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3/26/2003
14:38:40

RE: duelly
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definitely anythign is possible. The only reason I say bearings more often is that when turning the loads on the outside of the axle will be greater as well as the wheen weight...

So what kind of school project is this? details?

Chris



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3/26/2003
15:10:56

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My high school mechanics final project. We start in Grade 10 and work on vehicles. I finished mustang 5.0 conversion and am selling the $6000 CDN. dakota at he same time. No engine I put a 4.7 in it. It just needs body work and painting and I think that a dually would not only be different but out here in the country I will fit in?



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3/26/2003
16:21:17

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Finding the rims to fit is going to be a problem, most dually rims are 8 lug (or more for even larger trucks). What you'll effectively need to do is get a dually Ram's axle and have it narrowed. Or have a set of custom rims made w/ the 6x4.5" bolt pattern (don't quote me on the spacing) and use narrow rims and a wide fender flare.





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3/26/2003
17:17:22

RE: duelly
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I heard Jc Whithney have a spacer. I looked and in fact they do. Would this work.



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3/26/2003
20:51:14

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There was one at the Lancaster Ohio Dakota Meet last year , and I think he is comming to this years. Here are some pics. The dulley is top right.

http://www.geocities.com/tadmopar/DakotaMeet2002.htm

I cant remember his name , but it was a COOL likin truck!!

Kenneth L Nungesser
"We are determined to defend our lands and, if it be the "Great Spirit's" will, we wish to leave our bones upon them."
Tecumseh, Shawnee Chief 1813

Trevor
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3/28/2003
01:02:57

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Why would the outside of the axle have a greater load. It should be the same as with a single rear wheel right?



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3/28/2003
09:03:48

RE: duelly
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It's because of the fact that it's harder to twist on firm surfaces. The same would happen with a larger tire alone.



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3/28/2003
09:37:08

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Also when the outside tire is lifted or exerts a load (such as in cornering, bumps, etc.. The moment arm of the force is now located much further from that outer bearing than on a fegular dually.

Also... Duallys normally ahve full floating rear ends and out daks have semi-flaoting. In normal driving this should not make a difference but it is something to consider. I would go with something larger than the 8 1/4 you probably have to start with.

Chris




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3/28/2003
17:09:52

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One thing I would like to add, if you do use a true one tone axle from a fullsize (might have to narrow it) in order for the dual wheels to fit (8 lug for example) the front spindals would have to be changed also to make all the wheels match (major work here). Dually's have 6 matching wheels, all with the same offset. This way the front tires can be incorporated into your tire rotating schedual.



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7/20/2005
18:33:41

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I KNOW THE GUY FROM GLENFORD OHIO WITH THE GREEN DAKOTA DUALLY . IF YOUR INTERESTED IN BUYING THE DUALLY DAKOTA KIT THE COMPANYS NAME IS CUSTOM AND COMMERCIAL WHEEL COMPANY INC. CALIFORNIA THEY HAVE THE KITS FOR ALL THREE GENERATIONS AND IT DOESN'T HURT THE BEARINGS WILL GET PHONE NUMBER AND PUT ON SITE THURSDAY 7-21-05.



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