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imnomechanic
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3/10/2003
19:53:32
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I insalled my ho cams this weekend. now i get the truck to start, has anyone else encountered this?
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Joe
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3/10/2003
19:57:34
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Yes.
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imnomechanic
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2003
20:14:09
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what was wrong? we had it tdc, never took thesprockets off the chains, and used a wedge.
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Demon Dakota
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3/10/2003
20:17:43
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Did you hook everything back up correctly? If it started before and doesn't now, it's something you left out in your reassembly process.
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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imnomachanic
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2003
20:33:23
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we went over it for hours, thats what we thought too. my mechanic jusst caled me talking about resetting the timing. there is no way a chain slipped on the crank.
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Demon Dakota
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3/10/2003
21:27:41
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If the chain slipped, it would most likely run, but be rough as hell. Gotta be another answer if it hasn't slipped that much.
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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Rob C
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2003
00:54:17
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imnomachanic,
Did you recheck the right cam target wheel for damage? What about the crankshaft or camshaft position sensors for proper installation? Here's an warning excerpt from the instructions.
CAUTION: Do not hold or pry on the camshaft target wheel for any reason, Severe damage will occur to the target wheel. A damaged target wheel could cause a vehicle no start condition.
I hope this helps out or at least gives you some ideas. Good luck.
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imnomechanic
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2003
07:29:37
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ill have him check the target wheel before he does anything. mabye it was damaged when we put the cover back on. thanks
if anybody had this problem please chime in and let me know what your fix was. we're lost. thanks!
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imnomechanic
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2003
07:29:56
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ill have him check the target wheel before he does anything. mabye it was damaged when we put the cover back on. thanks
if anybody had this problem please chime in and let me know what your fix was. we're lost. thanks!
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Hurl
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3/11/2003
21:56:49
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Lets use our heads kiddies... Does it crank over? Is there spark? Is there fuel?
If you're wondering if the timing chain is indexed correctly then run a compression check.
You really need to give more detailed information about the symptoms.
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Texas Todd
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3/12/2003
10:57:04
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We did two trucks back to back in my garage-at home.
On the second truck, it would start, but didn't run right. Turned out to be an oxymoronic mistake- one of the rocker arms(they just sit on there)had gotten knocked off, and a recheck didn't even notice it! I felt like an idiot-oh that's right, I am an idiot!
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Joey Nuts
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3/13/2003
04:13:37
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reconnect the battery
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imnomechanic
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3/13/2003
08:03:09
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no compression on rigt side, as a matter of fact its pulling a vacum. what could cause that besides the timing? if anything
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Demon Dakota
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3/13/2003
12:12:31
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Pulling a vacuum? WTF is going on with that engine? I'm clueless now...
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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Texas Todd
Dodge Dakota
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3/13/2003
12:13:18
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I guess you checked the rocker arms with the valve cover off? Sounds like they may be knocked off.
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janesy
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3/13/2003
15:38:44
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Todd did you get it running, if so check the oil pressure, you may have nicked a cam bearing, and cause it to seize
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Kowalski
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3/13/2003
17:15:20
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Cam on right side may be way off, better recheck your installation if she's sucking when she ought to be puffing. See this with jumped timing belts on 4 bangers quite often, put your hand over their tailpipe and feel vacuum instead of pressure. Haven't had a good look at our cams yet, could you have installed it 180 degrees off ?
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imnomechanic
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
06:37:47
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we're beginning to think they may have sent me a bad cam. gonna try putting stock cams back on today. i jusst hope it hasnt caused any damage.
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Silver02QC
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
13:48:17
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It sounds like the cam is 180 degrees off if you are generating a vacuum. I was lucky that my install went correctly, but I took my sweet time to make sure all went well.
Before you get too far, check to make sure everything a normal motor needs to run is in order. Battery is connected, no loose wires, etc. Does the motor try to turn over, do you hear any activity, etc. We need a little more to go on other than it won't start.
If all checks out, I would set the motor to TDC and check the cam positions before ripping them out. I would bet you have the right cam off by 180 degrees +/- a few.
If the position checks out, mark the positions and begin to tear it down. I would suspect you've screwed a bearing. Worst case, you've knocked off a rocker or slipped a chain.
Let us know what you find.
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bump
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3/20/2003
14:31:25
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just a bump surious as to what happened, and what was the solution
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Texas Todd
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3/21/2003
08:52:11
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bump again,
Mr. imnomechanic, what happened? The suspense is killing us!
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Chris
Dodge Dakota
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3/21/2003
12:34:05
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No doubt, how'd the factory cams work out?
Chris
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mo pwer
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3/23/2003
00:01:22
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I will bet that the sprocket on that side of the engine was not keyed on the cam and the cam is not turning. You cannot install the cam 180 out. There is only one position.
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