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CThomp
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2/03/2003
11:32:58
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Yeah i'm hoping that by the time I wear out my 4.7L Dak DC will be offering the 4.0L V6 Delta Diesel w/ 235hp and 375ft/lbs mated to a tremec 6spd (if possible). It'll probably end up with a richmond or allison 5spd though. But then again I only have 42K on my '00 Dak so I have quite a ways to go.
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HowAboutIt
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2/04/2003
01:31:42
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In a midsize truck package we'll only see
inline-6 diesel engines for quite awhile. Any
i-6 is inherently much better balanced than a
v-6 is (because of the internal geometry), and
therefore doesn't need counter-balancing and
extra parts.
Only reason for a v-6 is that it can more easily
tucked under a short, low hood of a car. This
is less of a problem in a truck because of the
truck's bigger, longer engine compartment.
So, I just wonder how small a i-6 diesel can be
made, before it doesn't make sense anymore.
Like with turbine engines, maybe there's a lower
limit on their size below which they don't work
so good.
Also, the 5.9 Cummins is obviously the same
displacement as the R/T 5.9. It's heavier and
more expensive, but available now - just a
matter of amortizing development costs. With a
beefier front suspension and tranny, could this
improved diesel also be stuck into the Dakota?
Would huge torque, maxing out at 1400 rpm and HP
maxing at 2300, be in demand for those people
wanting to put the stock 5.7 in the Dak? Or
would this just be too radical for the
performance small truck market?
(One of the reasons that I'm looking at this
line of thought, is the latest DC management
philosophy of 'making every vehicle fun to
drive' -announced at the same show where they
showed the V-10 motorcycle(!), and announced the
v-16(?) car - in the middle of a recession, no
less. And, also because of the very recent
improvements made in new diesels)
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2003
07:42:58
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Someone already dropped a 5.9 into a dak. At least I think it was a 5.9L. They shoehorned it in then had to put the radiator in the trucks bed. I think it let the dak run 13's in the 1/4 mile and it got like 30mpg.
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Jarrod
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2/04/2003
09:14:42
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Ill believe that when I see it
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CThomp
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2/04/2003
09:50:24
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Use the serch option to find the diesel dak I was talkin about. Its on one of these threads. ITs pretty cool. I'l see if I can't dig it up.
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CThomp
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2/04/2003
09:55:13
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http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/per/6666.html
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greenmr
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2003
11:36:04
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Also,
The land speed record was recently set by a Dakota with a highly modified Cummins 5.9L. It was a pretty good story, the guy used the truck to haul the supply trailer to the flats, ran upwards of 200 mph, and then towed back with the same truck.
It was a shoehorn job though, the #6 valve cover was as far back as the dash in a stock dakota.
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Demon Dakota
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2/04/2003
14:44:02
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Remember that fitting the rather long 5.9L Cummins in the Dakota would not be the easiest thing to do. Sure it's only six cylinders, but the Dakota is only really meant to fit 4 cylinders length in it's engine compartment. They could fit a smaller displacement inline 6 in there, and hence the rumor of the new Delta.
K&N Drop in AF
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
Modified TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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CThomp
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2/04/2003
15:10:33
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I think the Delta I-6 is a 4.2L.
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STS
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2/10/2003
19:49:46
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It happend. Gale Banks dropped a bosted up Cummins Diesal under the hood of a modified Dakota.
Also broke the speed record for any midsized truck out in the desert. 221 MPH/
And we are talking about 700 HP and 1300 FT lbs of tourqe!
www.trucktend.com
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Hersbird
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2/10/2003
20:38:29
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Of course Banks had to buy a CC and remove the rear seats, then move the front seats, firewall, and dash back to make it fit!
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darcy
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2/10/2003
20:50:53
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That Banks dakota is sweet, check out the pics of the rebuilt back end on the web site... it's so nice, coil overs, 4-link suspension, quick change rear end. I'd love to have a race-only dak setup just like that one, everything except for the diesel engine, it's awesome but not my thing, I'd drop a 528 HEMI into it and bolt up a 6-71... damn I wish I had some more money!
2002 Dakota Sport 4.7 V8 Club Cab
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sandman
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2/11/2003
19:03:56
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Wont happen. DC will proably put a cast iron version of the 2.5 V6 diesel used in the Jeep Grand Cherkee in Europe(Daimler Car Diesle)! Sure they will bore and strok it to get 3-4 liter out of it but it will not be anythng like the Cummins 5.9!!! I would be a happy camper if Cummins just cut two or three cylinders of their 5.9 and put it in the Dakota and kept the it turbo charged.
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