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gthang
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i laugh at you guys sayin this and that about how fast you were goin. these are trucks, not race cars!
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Blizzard
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1/11/2002
13:11:22
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So glad we have such intelligent, informed people browsing the forums. Thank you for your keen observation.
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2002
13:19:33
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You're absolutely right of course.
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bfs
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2002
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until dogde brings back rear drive v-8 cars, this is my race car.
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CThomp
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they aren't?
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Joel
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1/11/2002
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The dakotas are not cars? WTF? I GOT RIPPED! LETS FILE A CLASS ACTION SUIT!
Joel
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surferpug
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2002
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That just make you more pathetic when you see our tail lights after a drag
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reddak318
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1/11/2002
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So your sayin trucks are slow? Not what the past couple of Mustang owners have said when they get to check out my tailights. It's just a motorhead thing to brag about how fast your truck is. Dont worry about it. Some people just dont understand!!!!
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Dr Q
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1/11/2002
18:00:50
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0-60 1/4
1985 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28 7.0 15.2
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 6.6 14.9
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z L98 6.8 15.3
1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 7.0 15.5
Correction: these are fast trucks!
Q
Dr.Q
'01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5sp 3.92 pegleg
0-60 @ 6.20sec.
1/4mi @ 14.75@97.1
Home Brew Airbox
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2002
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lol, IROCs are not race cars either Q...
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steph
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I love to see the surprised expression on people when I leave them behind with my old 91 Dak 5.2! You're right gthang, these trucks are not race cars, they're race TRUCKS!! HA HA!
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Demon-Xanth
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They're not race cars? Damn, I should've pointed that out to the guy in the Integra, he would've REALLY been embarrased :)
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Chris W
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1/11/2002
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Demon Xanth, try that with a new -200hp- Integra!:-}
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Winston
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1/12/2002
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Who wants a lesson? Dak itchin' to give a spankin'
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DakGuy
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1/12/2002
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I have tried the new Integra, he never had a chance!!!!!!!
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Aaro
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2000 Integra Type R, 14.8 @ 96. This is a easy win for a truck that turns low 14's.
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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1/12/2002
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I said NEW Integra. But I meant the new RSX. with a 0-60 time of 5.9, youre trucks ain't got a chance. Even if you manage to hang off the line, the RSX is hooked up better, and with a 7900 rpm shift point, it'll still be accelerating while youre shifting. Furthermore, even IF you manage to survive the 1/4mile, you will be forced to back off if there's any curves in the road, because you see, most sports car enthusiasts are interested in ALL aspects of vehicle performance, Things like lateral acceleration, roadholding, powering out of turns, braking, as well as straight line acceleration.
The term sports car originated from the cars that competed in motor SPORTS events, and were applied to vehicles that met a certain criteria, such as those mentioned above.
To say that youre trucks are sport trucks is actually a misnomer. The term muscle truck seemes to be a more apt description. because after all, the truck has nothing else going for it besides off the line acceleration. 1/4mile at best, with a top speed less than a Honda Accord due to the lousy aerodynamics.
No matter how hard you try to be "sports cars with beds" you will never be able to match the purpose built engineering of a true sports car any more than a sports car will claim to do the things a truck can.
I didnt buy my Dakota so I could go out on the streets and look like an imature kid out there racing everything in sight, and claiming all these "kills" when you cant even be sure the person was trying to race in the first place!
When we do stupid things like that, we dont look any better than the kid in the Camaro reving his engine next to you at a light. when I see things like that, I think "What an A$$hole." and just let him go.
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Joel
Dodge Dakota
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1/12/2002
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I don't know which ride will win but think about one thing, the Acura has a 7900 shift point? Do you realize how long the driver has to wait to get power? I'd get VERY impatient!!!!
Thats why I love pushrod motors. Power down low w/no waiting. Hi RPM cars are only good on track, if that.
Joel
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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22:11:41
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WRONG. Hondas iV-tech system was designed to take care of that problem. If you look at the engine specs for the the new RSX, youll see a fairly flat torque curve, with slowly climbing H.P.
The iV-tech system on Hondas passenger cars is the exact same system as that used on the Honda champ cars in the CART series.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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1/12/2002
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Chris W, did a ricer crawl up your @$$ and die, always so negative. Negative! Negative! Negative!
Lets try posting something nice, like WHY did you buy your truck, instead of why DIDN'T you, eh?
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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1/12/2002
22:19:23
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Joel, you must have a 3.9 , a 5.2, or 5.9. the 4.7 is SOHC. The only STOCK Dak that MIGHT beat a car like the RSX would be the 4.7 RC 5spd. 2wd. And thats if it could get hooked up on the line.
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Blizzard
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1/12/2002
22:20:59
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Ya beat me to it, xplikt! I was thinkin' just that! lmao
All this ricer talk is giving me a pain ... in the tailpipe.
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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1/12/2002
22:31:32
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OK, explicit, I'll tell you why I bought my Dak.
I bought it because it looked good, had a strong engine, lots of standard features, and mainly because I needed a truck to use for light duty applications like towing my poptop, getting stuff from home depot, moving furniture, hauling landscaping materials, going camping, amd doing all this and still looking good on the town on friday night.
What i did NOT buy my truck for is speed. if i wanted to haul ass and race every frigging thing
in sight, I would have bought a sportscar.
And no a "ricer" did not die up my ass, I just get sick and tired of the BS coming from some folks on this forum who think they can outrun anything with wheels.
Does any one know of a general automotive/truck discussion forum out there? cause the narrow mindedness on this site is getting really bothersome.
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CW
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1/12/2002
22:43:27
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The reasons I didn't buy a sports car. They don't move in a foot of snow, they don't haul my 5000lbs holiday trailer, plus the price for insurance was half. Once I can afford something to blow on my 4.7 it will be faster than most "sportscars". Note dunners 12.7 sec. extended cab.
Just for curiosity, what do you drive Chris W?
2001 RC 4.7 5sp 9.25" 3.92 LSD
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Lesley
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1/12/2002
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No, but instead of wasting your time here you could be out finding one.
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bernd
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1/13/2002
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Wait...ah #@%! Ya mean I didn't buy a Race Truck? LOL
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2002
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I'm not quite sure what kind of information you were hoping to find here that a general automotive/truck discussion forum would provide. I'm not quite sure about what you mean about the narrowmindedness of people on the site. If the idea of speed isn't your thing than don't read the threads that are about that. It's not required that you read every single thread. I know I'm fairly selective about which threads I read. If it would make you feel better - we could talk about how many chords of wood or sheets of plywood we can haul. Although I can tell you for a fact that if somebody starts a thread about how much wood they can haul..... I probably wouldn't read it. We have 2 or 3 threads every week about which spark plug or oil to run - Is that what you are looking for? If not than what?
I didn't buy my truck for the speed either. I bought it because I needed a truck. I use it to haul furniture as well as hauling things for my work. I also use it for trips to home depot and even to haul garbage to the dump. I use my truck to tow race cars/trucks to the track as well as tow sand toys to the dunes. But I must admit that I like the idea of hauling ass a little bit also!
I do enjoy the challenge of taking a vehicle that starts out just like anyone else's and making reflect my own ideas of functionality. I like the idea of making it more efficient, more responsive, handle better, look better, sound better and yes even making it faster. I like the idea of continuous improvement. It's not about, nor has it ever been about who I can beat. Contrary to popular opinion - I don't race everything in friggin' sight. I know how quick it will go and I don't need to prove it to everybody else on the road. When I want to gauge the performance level achieved - I take it to the track. I'm not confused at all about it's status. It's not a sports car. It's not a race car. It's not a race truck. It's just MY truck.... but sometimes I race it anyway. Is that OK with you?
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Joel
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2002
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Chris W, good point & I rest my case. "Like Honda cars in CART." Like I said, that is a track application. They keep the R's up. You can't do that around town.
Joel
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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I actually bought the Dakota for it's SPEED, looks, and good engine.
Originally, I had these choices of vehicles when I was buying my first vehicle.
Of them, was:
1998 Audi A4
1996 Z28 Camaro
1996 Prelude
ALL of those, cost twice as much in insurance as my BRAND new 2002 Dakota. I also liked the idea of owning a brand new vehicle and knowing every mile that's been put on it and what's been put in it.
I started looking into trucks, of them were the usual (Tacoma, Dakota, S-10). I test drove them all, with different engines etc. I found the Dakota to be fast enough for my needs.
So I did buy the Dakota for it's speed. It was THE newest and fastest vehicle I could get, for the cheapest insurance. Not to mention I started looking into the Dakota more and found it to be an awesome piece of work. I also LOVED the Dakota more than anything else I had ever test driven.
How many 2002 vehicles do you know of that are known to do high 14s/15 in the 1/4 stock and pay half of what it costs for a 1996 Z28?
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bernd
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1/13/2002
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Duner...hehehe, what's that turbo doing on your 4.7L then? ;)
Hehehehe...we could look at our trucks as the "Daily-Driver-For-Hauling-A$$-Wood-Engines-Furniture-with-the-aerodymanics-of-a-brick-and-the-heart-of-a-high-performance-(Mopar) Racecar".
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2002
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Efficiency?
Somebody told me that I might get better fuel mileage with a turbo....
I just had to try it out!
So far it's only managed to improve the fuel mileage when I was pulling a trailer.
After careful review of all the facts:
I've concluded that my mileage test is flawed due to inconsistent application of throttle with my right foot. (I hate when that happens) That and the fact that I have tried to test both the boost levels and mileage levels simultaneously - which was bound to lead to wrong numbers. Since I enjoy testing boost levels fairly often, I'll try the mileage test again some other time..... like when I grow up? hehehe (My wife says that means never!)
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gthang
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2002
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wow, i didnt mean to start an uprising! dont get me wrong, i love my dakota but compare it to my mustang? not a chance.
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bernd
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1/14/2002
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ROTFLMAO!! :)
Ya mean that funny lookin' pedal on the right side isn't the ON/OFF switch?
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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Yes, Duner that is OK with me.I obviously have steamed a few folks. And Lesley, I have taken a look around at some other forums and they are not anywhere near as good as this one.
I'll just have to take youre advice and ignore all the stupid racing stuff. :-> Seriously though, I happen to really like Honda/Acura vehicles and can't help but defend them. I also own a Dakota so I'm not on this site just to piss people off like some other folks.
I've looked around and can't seem to find a general automotive discussion forum. They all are dedicated to one vehicle or another. This is the best site by far.
CW, I told you what I drive in the Tundra thread but I'll tell you again in case you dont read that thread anymore: a 95 3.9 5spd CC.
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Lesley
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1/14/2002
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Hey Bernd, do you think it would improve your times if you had a carboard cutout to pose beside your truck? Or, regapped champion plugs in a cardboard cutout of a truck with a real girl propping it up?
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Justin
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1/14/2002
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I like to beat TA Ws6 with my 2001 R/T
=) not a race truck but i like running low 12's on the street
Damn Honda with all kinds of stickers
Stickers do not give you horse power
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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Hey Justin, GGRRRRRR!! I'm biting my tounge! Just shut up Chris, Just SHUT UP!!!!AAHHHHH!
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Brad
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Hey Chris,
No argument on the honda thing. They make great engines and cars (friend has a s2000, damn that thing is a blast! I can still beat him off the line though). But I'm a diehard Dodge boy and if I want a V8 RWD vehicle, what options do I have? If dodge had an affordable sports car I would probably buy that. They don't and the Dakota does an admirable job in filling that void.
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Chris W
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Well put Brad.
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CW
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1/14/2002
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The S2000 is a sweet little car. It is a motorcyle engine put in a light car love that idea. Love the idea of having a engine that revs to 9000 rpm.
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
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"To say that youre trucks are sport trucks is actually a misnomer. The term muscle truck seemes to be a more apt description. because after all, the truck has nothing else going for it besides off the line acceleration. 1/4mile at best"
I beg to differ on this statement you made. The best part about my truck isn't it's 1/4 times, but the fact that it handles better tham nost vehicles on the road. Sure I can run mid 14's which isn't all that fast, but I can also take 25mph on and off ramps at 50+mph. ALso, I have personally beat a BMW coupe on a curvy mountain road and yes he was trying. Of course, I don't have the normal evryday Dakota you see on the road. I have the R/T, and have since upgraded on that with the Hotchkis suspension, better tires, frame brace, and traction bars. I'll bet i can hang or beat most Honda/Acura vehicles on the road. And like the quote I heard tonight, It's not bragging if you can back it up.
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