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sav
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12/27/2002
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i would greatly appreciate if you could give me any info on the 4.7 v8. i am looking to trade in my 99 3.9. i would like to hear from those who have an automatic or manual transmission. How is the power? fuel economy city, highway, combined?
any major powertrain problems, reliability issues? thanks for your time!
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j
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12/27/2002
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Get the manual trans if you can. The engine likes to be revved. Never had any trouble with mine. My avg mpg (before the s/c) was about 17.
2000 4.7 CC auto, clear corners, Magnaflow catback, Kenne Bell s/c.
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woody
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12/29/2002
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Get the manual trans because the engine responds better with some RPM. I have a 2000 Dakota RC and love it. The best mileage was 21mpg but I was taking it easy that week on the back roads. The worst mileage was 16mpg to 17mpg with a heavy foot. I usually average between 18mpg and 19mpg on the highway because I have 3.92 gears in the rear. The only problem I have encountered is that when the engine is warming up, its idle like to jump up and down. Just keep an eye on that. If you plan to add the HO cams, it is time consuming to move everything out of the way to put them in so plan on a weekend project, and becareful not to break anything. After all this, I would still recommend the 4.7 for you because you will love the power with a manual trans.
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xplikt
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12/29/2002
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If you live in an area where you will be driving this truck in a lot of stop and go traffic, screw the manual tranny.
Other than that, the 5spd. manual is very cool on the 4.7.
If you don't dump the clutch you shouldn't ever have a serious problem. Other than wheel hop, but that kinda says something good.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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Andrew
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12/29/2002
19:37:10
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Hey check out this page for specific info on the 4.7,
http://dodgeram.org/tech/gas/Cammer/4_7_v8.html
I have a 2002 4x4 auto and love the truck. It has great power, and can easily add even more. Gas is almost the same a 3.9. It would be a great step up from the v6.
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BobbyD
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12/29/2002
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Wish my 4.7 got that mileage you guys are talking about. I'm getting 13.5 in town (mostly stop and go during rush hour). I've only taken one trip out of town with the Dak. I got 13.9 mpg on the way to my destination, but that was driving 80 mph and into a 15-20 mph headwind. By the time I got back home, the average mpg had jumped up to 14.9 due to slowing down a little (75 mph) and a slight tailwind coming home. So I'm thinking normal conditions at 75 mph would put me at aboout 16 mpg. Should that be the mileage I expect with a 4WD QC?
I have an automatic, and personally I like it. My last SUV was a 5-speed and I hated it for rush hour driving. I have more acceleration than I'll ever need. No problems getting up to 75 on the hwy on ramps without putting the pedal all the way down.
As of right now, I'd buy another one.
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Steve
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12/29/2002
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i love my 287 and 5 speed. especially coming off of the on ramps going faster than the cars that are already on the highway
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PeteB
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12/30/2002
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BobbyD,
I've got a QC 4X4 and I get about 13.5 in town and about 15.5 on the highway.
Pete
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Selcher
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12/30/2002
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WOW!
I've been keeping track of my mileage since putting the H.O. Cams in last month and I've been averaging about 16mpg around town and 23mpg on the highway. Keep in mind that around town I've been using 4x4 a lot because of the 3 feet of snow we have that won't stop falling so I'm okay with the mileage at this point. I was getting better mileage both in town and on the highway during the summer months before the H.O. Cam install. Interesting to see what this summer brings.
Regards,
Aaron
'02 4.7L CC 4x4 - H.O. Cams, Homebrew Intake, Relocated AIT.
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Texas Todd
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12/30/2002
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If you're going to drive this truck anywhere-
screw the auto tranny!
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Lab Rat
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12/30/2002
16:47:12
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Have to agree-the only mistake I made buying my truck was getting the auto trans.
LR
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streetstalker
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12/31/2002
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about the auto tranny, the only thing i want to get in and shift is somethin that has about 500 hp and is ona track, the hell with all the work headed to work, i jus get in and drive, as for the motor i have a 03 4x4 cc and its a tourqe SOB in its stock for i did a 168 mile trip and averaged 18-19 mpg at 70 mph with 355 rear gear. i just rescently added a set of duals and a flowmaster and will be runnin my road trip again, i will post the differnce when i get back on sunday. it should be better than what it was before.
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Jimi
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12/31/2002
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Last time I checked the cars turning in the best times at the 1/4 were driving AUTOMATIC, yea manuel is fun and efficient but the last R/T I saw had a auto in it too,,,hmm maybe it was suppose to get a 5 speed and Dodge screwed up,,,,,NOT!
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streetstalker
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12/31/2002
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its been a proven fact if you have identical vehicals, one using an automatic and another using a manual the manual will always win due to the lack of loss of hp needing to utilize the tranny of the automatic, (automatic will take away 35% of overall hp at crank to make power to rear wheels) the only time an automatic would win over a manual is if a turbo was being used in both vehicals, due to an automatic being able to keep a steady boost threw the whole start and finish of a race, while a manual has to continuously rev to keep boost built up to make power for the car. every shift is a loss of power over the advantage of the automatic
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xplikt
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12/31/2002
03:27:15
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I don't know about you Jimi, but:
<-- isn't a ten second car. Neither is yours (maybe).
Who gives a flying fuk what the the fastest funny or pro street cars are running. This is everday here. To and from work, school, pick up your kids, go driving around town, offroading, occasional track visit (autocross and drag), and so on. Get what's fun and most useful to you.
manual benifit vs auto benefit
That can only be decided by the specific buyer.
I personally find the manual much more fun. If I built a 68 Firebird 455, would I be running a manual, hell no.
For those of you who just use your truck to make quarter mile passes all day, I say go for the auto! For the other 99.89456% (real world calculation) of the Dakota owners out there, get what suits you more.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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SpongBob
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12/31/2002
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sav...I have the auto and love it! I have 26,000 on the truck and it shifts like a dream,very smooth.What I like the best about it if I'm going 50+ and kick it in the a*ss it picks up a flys.In town I get 13 and if I drive it like you are suppose to, I get 15. Just yesterday on a round trip{300 hundred miles} on the turn pike in a strong wind with heavy rain fall with cruse on at 65 to 70 I got 19.It does have a K&N with Mobil 1 and R/T cat back exhaust.
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SpongeBob
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12/31/2002
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sorry
00 Dakota SLT 4.7 auto 235 hp auto 355 LS
02 Grand Cherokee 4x4 4.7 235 hp
89 Mustang 2dr 5.0 5spd 355 gear {many engine mods}
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xplikt
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12/31/2002
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One thing about the manual. It is more fun, but a pain in the ass when you're trying to hold a Coke (pop for you northerners and soda for you easterners) in your hands.
-Mike
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2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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Texas Todd
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12/31/2002
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xplikt,
If I didn't think I knew better, it sounds like you REALLY want an AUTO!
When I have to shift, I set my drink of choice in the drink holder in the console.
And here in Houston, the traffic don't get much worse, and I have NO PROBLEM driving, even stop and go traffic! For 10 more stock HP, heavier, worse MPG, and only an auto, I COULDN'T bring myself to get the 5.9!
01, QC, 2-tone, SLT, TT, HD, leer shell, Infinity, PL, RKE, tire and handling,
4.7, 5spd, HO cams, no belt clutch/fan, ported 68mmTB, home brew air w/K&N drop in, Ait adj.,
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kgun
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12/31/2002
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I wish I could get the mileage that some of you get with the 4.7. I get a consistant 12.5 in town. And I'm not driving around like a manic.
Mine's an auto and I love it. You step down and it goes. I guess I need to live where everyone elso lives so I can rip around all day and not worry about Johnny Law spoiling the fun.
I do want to see if I can get alittle more mileage,,,,,,and pep. I have an Airaid intake coming and and wondering if a catback would help? Anymore ideas?
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eddierm3
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I have a 2001 4.7l ext cab with an Intense performance ztube cold air intake and a flowmetrics TBI. I plan on getting a magnaflow catback exhaust soon. I've put just under 40,000 miles on my dak and just about all those miles are highway. I usually get anywhere from 17-23 mpg on the highway depending on traffic. I usually do about 10 over the posted speed limit. I've never had a problem with my dak and would definitly buy another.
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@bbi3
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12/31/2002
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Nah, I love my manual and wouldn't ever trade it for an auto. If I was that much of an auto person I would have a Ram 1500 RC 2WD 5.7L in front of my house already ;)
I test drove an auto 3.9 vs manual 3.9 (both 4x4 and ext. cabs) and liked the manual much more. I just thought a 4.7 might make it a lot more fun. So I chose that when I went to order.
Never got to test drive an R/T though. No one had one. Just recently a dealer up here got one. Now there is snow outside and they are fuked if they think they can sell it.
I did get to test drive a 4.7L auto quad and that thing was nice, but a tad out of my price range.
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xplikt
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12/31/2002
18:44:12
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Wow, how dumb am I to put my password into my username field. Damn you anti cussing thing that makes me go back!!!
-Mike
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2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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sandman
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I really like my 2001 QC with 4.7 and automatic. I do not know what they are like with a stick. I would imagine that I would have liked it even better with a stick. The wife really wanted an automatic. I have no complaints about the power train really. The only thing I would really like to see is variable valve timeing. THe truck makes plenty of power and gets slightly better miliage then the 3.9 V6. I would not have bought this Dodge without the 4.7. I am biased towards more m modern engine designs and hate hydralic lifters. I talked to quite a few enginers that worked on the project and they all gave me a thumbs up. Most of them no longer work there. It is the most refined engine that Dodge has ever put in a truck and the lower end is very stiff! So far 2001+ the engine has not had a single mechanical TSB! No leaking gaskets, no overheating issues, I think all the trany problems to date have been solved with programing. I crashed mine at 55MPH into another vechile and it protected my very well. $8054 dollars later and it will be good as new. I should get it back the 6th of Jan.
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magilla
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just picked up a 2001 4x4 QC with the 4.7 and I am definitely glad I got the V8.As for the mileage,I'm also in the 13-15 range.Any suggestions?I have yet to make any mods.
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BobbyD
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1/01/2003
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sav,
I'm with xplikt, get the transmittion that fits you best, either way you should be OK.
I enjoyed a 5-speed when I was in high school and college and didn't have to deal with rush hour/stop-and-go traffic everyday, but now love having an automatic for that kind of driving.
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Texas Todd
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1/02/2003
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glad you like your auto-
Still, don't see what the big deal is in traffic, stop and go, with my manual tranny. I know it shifts less than an auto would shift going stop and go, not that that matters though.
You like an auto, fine. It just seems that there are people with the 'Oh, a manual is a pain in traffic' attitude that wished they really had a manual, or they wouldn't even be commenting on it!
If you like your auto-fine. Just plz stop trying to rationalize why a manual might not be as good as what you have.
'Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours'.-Richard Bach
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BobbyD
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1/02/2003
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I'm glad that you're glad that we like our autos and I'm even more glad that you like your manual ... but you do sound like you have some type of autophoba.
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woodiecabin
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1/10/2003
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loved my dakota 287 untill the 84000 mile oil sludge buildup problem dropped my oil pressure to zero. now what??"???
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Pete
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1/10/2003
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Change your oil more often next time!
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woodiecabin
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pete the standard answer i get from sludge is change your oil more often but that is the typical answer from sludge heads that have no answer that applies to the existing problem. i am not a novice to maintenance as i drive for a living . obviously to me there is a problem more than an oil change will solve.
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