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10/12/2002
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Don-won, Oh Yeah! My penis is larger than yours though!



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10/12/2002
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getting back to the original theme my 97 3.9 cc dak, 3.55 and auto out runs 4.2 ford 150's all day every day dream boy. I even do quit a number on the heavier 250's with tritons in them the only thing in a truck by another maker that does me in is a chevy/gmc runnin with a 345 hp engine.



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10/12/2002
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You know, he might very well be telling the truth. Maybe this particular owner sucked ass at racing. There are too many variables involved. Although, two good drivers at a track would prove the Dakota is in fact faster, duh factor. It's not impossible he beat one, but it is impossible to beat most (any?) of us.

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10/12/2002
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how does the driver matter, there both auto's, and the durango has awd, so theres no wheel spin, duh! I can even take SS/T's, don't know what they have in them but i beat one, it had bigger rims, 5.9?to it think. Even my dads extended cab sierra with 4wd beat the durango, barely though. dodge sucks, whats so big about hemi, my northstar has hemi style heads (spark plug in the middle. BTW my mom just bought a 2003 bravada, plan on borrowing that 1 night to beat the durango again!!!!! DODGE SUCKS! the z06's are just as fast as a viper now! and 30k less!



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10/12/2002
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Have you ever raced or raced in anything that didnt weigh over 4000 lbs?



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10/12/2002
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don-won, you are an idiot.

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10/12/2002
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I wish my dodge sucked, but it doesn't...so I guess I'll keep her....hehe



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10/12/2002
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my car weighs over 4000lbs IDIOT!!!!!!! Well yours sport coupe AVENGER is slower than your caravan, stratus RT's put up a little fight, but not on the highway at least, and neons, well there just gay, but so are caviliers. okay, ill stop posting! just letten you know durango's and dakotas are weak! Honestly though 300m specials are nice........still slower, but nice looking, thats all your little mopar has. If mercedes wouldn't have bought them they would have went bankrupt, for like the 3rd time.

piece



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10/12/2002
22:32:25

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Uhh...cavaliers are chevy...

If you honestly think dodges suck, then drive out to North Texas. I have a few buddies with Dakotas that will spank you and your run down POS car. Hell, I can beat your car with my truck on 1/2 throttle...

And as far a you saying MOPAR sucks...I wonder why so many of the fastest cars around are Dodges, Plymouth, or Chysler...hmmm...



Kris

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10/12/2002
22:42:15

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I don't know about ya'll, but I see a trend going here.

From Don-Jon

how does the driver matter, there
both auto's, and the durango has awd, so theres no wheel spin, duh! I can even
take SS/T's, don't know what they have in them but i beat one, it had bigger
rims, 5.9?to it think.
Even my dads extended cab sierra with 4wd beat the durango, barely though. dodge sucks, whats so big about hemi, my northstar has hemi style heads (spark plug in the middle. BTW my mom just bought a 2003 bravada, plan on borrowing that 1 night to beat the durango again!!!!! DODGE SUCKS! the z06's are just as fast as a viper now! and 30k less!



And one would think that MOM bought the NorthStar and is passing it off to Little Johnny and Getting a Bravada. Huh! I like the fact that I bought my POS myself, and it's not a hand me down from MOM.

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10/12/2002
23:01:54

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Don-won, I wouldnt have asked the F'in question if I didnt already know that.

"Have you ever raced or raced in anything that didnt weigh over 4000 lbs?"

Hence "raced in".

I apologize, Don, if I assumed everyone using this forum retained atleast alittle comprehension of the english language or any other form of communication.





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10/12/2002
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Now replace blonde with Ford F-150 owner.

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10/13/2002
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My pee pee fall off! I cant wee wee!



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10/13/2002
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Don, if anything mercedes is going to be the downfall of chrystler in the 21'st century... They have done nothing but leech out of chrystlers savings since the merger. If you ask me mercedes was one of the biggest mistakes Chrystler ever made, although it does have its advantages sometimes too.

As far as GM isnt doing any better, Oldsmobile will be gone after 03' (who cares anyhow), they got rid of their F-body line (big mistake in my opinion), Nobody can afford the Z06 but I have to say the same for the Viper, cant get around that one. All GM is left with is those heavy ass rock like sierra's, the monte carlo, and the rice'ish S-10. If they even release that GTO (lets hope) here in the states I'd be very surprised.

I admit right now as far as power goes, no need to mention quality since chrystler has been stacking up on awards for that over the passed couple of years, most of it has been concentrated on the Viper at the present, but dont be surprised in a couple years if dodge releases a RWD Hemi powered sedan or coupe of somesort (if the germans let us).


GM(Stock 5.7 LS1)
350 horsepower @ 5200 RPM
375 lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM

Dodge(Stock 5.7 Hemi)
345 horsepower @ 6000 RPM
375 lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM

Basically what your saying is your northstar V8 has more right to be in the corvette than the LS1 does?? I mean since essentially the difference in the LS1 and the new Hemi is 5 horse and a few hundred RPM's.

Im beginning to think you are nothing more than a "peice" like you said in your last post...

Anyways! "Peace" guys. :P





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10/13/2002
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hey don-won I gotta older Dodge I would love to race you in, in fact I have several older Dodgea I want to race your young punk butt in. In about 3 days the hemi rebuild will be done, then you can learn what hemi is all about, I can/will teach you about 340's and 360's and even relitivly rare late 60's 318's with factory 4 barrels, most of the 318's only came with a Carter 2 and blew off a lot of small block -read 350- gm crap with stock quads. he hemi is a factory stock/overhauled 426, not a 392, crankin out an honest 538 hp when it was new in 70. Yeah I know it was rated at 425 but that was for the insurance comanies that refused to insure anything over 430 hp back then.



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10/13/2002
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ok, i have to respond to this, for 1 I bought the aurora, 4 months ago for 7,000, like most other american cars, really low resale, it never belonged to anyone in my family, my moms old car was a 95 grand cherokee, I6, unreliable as HELL, and SLOW as $hit!

2) if mercedes woudn't have bought Chrysler they would have went under in 98, or 99 WAY BEFORE OLDSMOBILE

3) the 350hp ls1 is only the base, the z06 has 405, and torque? I never said the northstar was better than a ls1, but what does chrysler make that competes with 300hp and 295 tq in a FULL SIZE OR MIDSIZE SEDAN!!!! STS, DTS. even the eldorado, which this is its last year

4) the monte carlos are sweet as hell with the factory groundeffects, if theyd put a supercharger in them theyd be as fast as they look, for now there only as fast as a STRATUS RT!, like the new impala SS, 3.8 sc.

5) the 302hp ls1 powered GTO is coming out next year, with a 6speed or 4auto (first for gm in a while ill admit) The grand prix in 2004 will have 280hp and 280 tq, as if it didn't already spank the $hit out of a stratus RT, or 300m, and the bonneville will be 270hp next year. My 4.0 northstar with intake and exaust is 270hp, 270tq, northstars don't produce nearly as much torque as a LS1, but they are making superchargers. Anyone check out all the engines GM is coming out with? 500hp caddy v12 anyone?, recently anounced they will make it. a whole list of new turbo v6's, direct injection that will make between 200-300hp. GM and ford are making a FWD6peed auto.

6) and getting rid of the F-body, $hit dodge doesn't even have anything to compete with the f-bodys Performance/PRICE. With the GTO, who cares about the Fbodys, but there already talking about coming out with new camaro's in about 4years, to many people buy mustangs

And whats the best truck out there? not the Dakota, Ram, or even the new Silverado SS or Sierra Denali (6.0L, bored 5.3), The Ford F150 Harley Davidson supercharged, 20's and a cab now thats a badass truck!

and yes my 13 year old toronado only weighed 3700lbs, with a 165hp v6 it still beat a new 5.2 durango, but it did lose to my friends 5.9 pretty bad.

I know caviliers are chevy i was just saying that even though neons are gay so are caviliers, and yes the s10's are gay as hell too.



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10/13/2002
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the Dodge I am refering to that I want to run you in for the first time only weighs in at around 3880 lbs, with hemi, if I remove it's areodynamic package, front nose and rear wing, it will come in slightly under 3600 lbs. I will however leave the original DAYTONA name on both rear quarter panels. Talk smak little boy you gonna get smacked. Bobby Issack drove one of these at Talledaga, set up like mine only he had an internal crash cage in it, and was the first stock car to exceede 200 mph. I also have a Demon 340 sixpack, a Barracuda 340-4 and a Dart 318-4 I will run against anything you bring. Go ahead and bring mommy's car and lets run them for pink slips, I will rent a semi to bring home all your mamma's vehicles with. You little sfb.



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10/13/2002
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Don-Won... Have you ever seen a drag strip? You have any actual times to report? Like I'v said 1 million times before, the 87' Grand-National is a great example of why you shouldnt bother comparing power ratings of engines to others...

Supposidly the GN only had 250 horsepower at the flywheel, which means it would have dyno'ed even lower than that, when it came out but some how it managed to project 3600 pounds, or more, through the quarter mile in around 14 seconds a tenth give or take.

As far as all of the other cars you've bothered to mention that GM makes... The key is torque at lower RPMS, not just the numbers themselves.

The Z06'es 405 horse power is nothing impressive... The ZR-1 was already pumping out that much in the LT5 back in 1993.





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10/13/2002
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wow... you beat a 4700 lb durango brick with 235 hp. What was the aurora... 3800 lbs, 250 hp 4.0 V8.... Impressive!

I have beat a 5.2 dakota in my 3.4 liter alero but i dont go gloating about how my CAR beat a TRUCK... i save that for when my TRUCK beats CARS.

--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
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99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph

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10/13/2002
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You know Donna-Lawanda, if you don't like Dodge or Dakotas as much as you say, Then why are you hanging around posting crap on a Dakota Forum?

A quick preliminary psychoanalysis of Donna-Lawanda:
#1.He/She hangs around a Dodge Dakota forum down talking Dakotas and Dodges.
#2.He/She brags about beating a Durango, which only has a similarity to a Dakota.
#3.He/She Talks of Mom and Dad’s automobiles with frequency.
#4 On a Dakota forum, Rambles on about future GM vehicles that are not on the market yet.

Conclusion of Preliminary Psychoanalysis of Donna-Lawanda:
#1. He/She had their a$$ handed to them by a Dodge Dakota with friends in witness and has not been able to live it down, so he/she is striking back in the only way he/she feels they can win.
#2.Uses the V-8 Dodge Durango as a scapegoat due to the fact it has a curb weight of 4,736 lbs, knowing that everyone on the site would raise the BS flag if he/she said they had beat a 3,886 lb V-8 Club Cab Dakota in a fair race that the Dakota knew it was in.
#3.He/She is a very young juvenile delinquent that does not have a life of their own, and lives his/her fantasies out through Mom and Dad’s lives and automobiles.
#4.Goes back to #3 with a few different points.
A. Lives out his/her fantasies of one day owning a real car and not the neighbor down the streets ‘For Sale Cheap Because I know you Groceries getter’.
B. Can’t leave the house because he/she is on restriction for sneaking Mom’s Jeep out and trashing it, so therefore has lots of time to surf the Internet.

So Donna-Lawanda, if you have nothing good to say for Dodge or Dakota’s then your presence is not welcome anymore. If you can offer some valid points and not childish ramble, then feel free to continue posting.

To those members and non-member regulars, I apologize if I seem to be acting like a moderator, (which I’m not) and getting on your nerves, but enough BS is enough.

Later,



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10/13/2002
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umm its my car for 1 so F_CK off, whats to prove that your dakota is yours? huhhhhhhh! your an idiot. also, i said my 89 toro, 3800lbs beat a 5.2 with 235hp, of course my new car would beat it, I thought it was a acomplishment that I beat a durango 5.9rt so bad, after all its supposed to be fast!!!!!

and torque????????your a moron!!!!! GM's 3.8 supercharged makes 280lbs of torque at very low rpms, sorry i don't want to look up the exact figures, thats alot of torque for a 4 door sedan. it runs in the high 14's stock, what does a 300m do? high 15's!

STREET GUY i never said i beat a 5.9 that has more aftermarket than stock, if i spend that much $$$ on performance i'd beat you, STOCK VS STOCK i beat a 5.9 durango. I saw a fast cavilier at a car show, turbocharged ran in the 13's, sure it would beat my car, but would a stock one??? NO!

ITS NOT MY PARENTS CAR, your all just haters because im 18 and drive a $38,000 luxury car thats 5 years old, bought it from a mommy though, about 30 miles north of were i live, 78,000 miles, she only thought it was worth 7,000 because the ones with 130k are going for 6,000 (95's) wanna see the freakin title!

and the aurora weighs OVER 4,000lbs you illiterate fool!
the z06 has the same 0-60 as a viper, .1 second slower in the quarter mile, 30k less.

im talking about future gm cars because your talking about future dodge cars!

I test drove a dakota RT about 5months ago, it was the older style said 5.9rt on it. it was a nice truck, had good power, 90k miles they wanted 9,000 for it, then i look a little more, for 7,000 i got leather, moonroof, good power, and a sweet looking car that seats 5, instead of a 3 seater cloth no option fast compact pickup that gets 14mpg, hmmm that was a hard choice.

i was just surfing boards and saw this, figured i'd slame a dumb truck a little, you must have written this bs so much that your starting to believe it!

AND what engine is winning ALMOST EVERY indy race car race???? the AURORA!!!!! what does the fastest american production street car have?????? SUPERCHARGED AURORA v8, not the viper, the shelby series 1 or whatever its called, costs alot more than a viper though.....almost 200k

so what proves that you all bought your trucks?? your word thats all. Well i swear on my life i bought the aurora, and im still in school, still making $400 a week (only 18 in school), you all probably make more than that, but did you when you were my age?



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10/13/2002
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Get a life don-won. I bet all your knowledge is from car magazines. You`ll believe anything.

In case you didnt know , the Aurora engines in the Indy cars are a little different than what you have in your street car.

So are you a Ford guy , GM guy or just anti-Dodge ?

Stay in school , you have alot to learn little boy.



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10/13/2002
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10/13/2002
20:01:26

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So the aurora is nothing more than a heavy duty truck killer... Thats like racing F'in V6 Camaro/Mustang convertables and saying that you have the ability to beat true muscle.

Iv beaten a few semi's with trailors in my old 83 Grand Prix, do I get props for that since your requesting props for your heavy duty accomplishments...

Aurora's are not even sweet looking to my 80 year old grand father (He even worked for general motors for 40 years too).

The reason the F'ing Aurora engines were winning at INDY all the time was because thats all that Tony George would let race on that track... with the acception of like 2 nissan engines.

LOL, the funny thing about how you just mentioned oldsmobile running in the IRL is that they havent allowed superchargers in indy car racing since the mid 50's, and no turbo's since the mid 90's. (CART still uses turbochargers but no oldsmobiles to be found there so we dont confuse our selves on that one...)

A better question is why is General Motors getting rid of the all mighty oldsmobile??

Your aurora weighs in around 3800lbs(Thanks too oldsmobiles website) same as a DakotaCC RT/DakotaCC 4.7 5-speed

If you could take your Aurora out and race a stock R/T club cab or a stock 4.7 club cab 5 speed and beat it then you might be able to run your mouth alittle bit... but so far all you have done is pick fights with 4700lbs+ vehicles.



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10/13/2002
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picking on the name ouch, i just made it up yesterday, i don't like fords, except the harley davidson truck, i said that. I graduated, maybe you should go back to school. Im in C_O_L_L_E_G_E to further my EDUMACATION, GOTS TO CONSTIPATE. BTW i like the way dodges look, stratus rt's, 300m specials, but there all a step behind in performance, except oddly enough there dakotas, which are kind of fast, overpriced but kind of fast. so why does dodge make there smaller pickup faster than there sport coupes, sedans and full-size pickups? I know s10's need a redesign, pretty bad actually, the 4.3 is a good motor, thats it.

Actually car mags are full of crap, MT rates my cars 0-60 at 8.2, yet ive tested it, with a Gtech (sort of accurate) at 7.4, and I spanked a monte ss, which is rated at 7.3, But i have the autobahn package, so who knows (3.73 ratio not 3.11)

race a cyclone or typhoon, then you'll see a fast truck!



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10/13/2002
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SYCLONES!!! SSSSSSSSSS Everyone always says Cyclone... Sounds like something you'ed order at F-cking dairy queen. Its not just you though "IBLOWMYDODGE", there is some other guy on here that always does that and it drives me nuts because he never hesitates to call someone else on his spelling.

As far as the trucks going faster than the cars I have no idea why that is, but from what iv heard about dhimalar, they preposed that dodge make strictly trucks and mercedes would make the car end of it. Thats why they havent really put alot of effort into the performance end of there cars yet. (excluding the viper)



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10/13/2002
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The new Neon SRT-4 is pretty quick. under 6 seconds 0-60 quick.



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10/13/2002
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oh yah, the cyclone was a mercury car, long time ago, whoops

the 2001+ auroras weigh 3800, mines a 97, 250lbs heavier, aurora's only look good in dark colors, mines black, with the 18's I along with everyone else who see's it says that its sweet as hell.

I didn't say the indy cars were supercharged! i said the shelby series 1 cobra was!, which is a 4.0 and faster than a viper (top speed, don't know the acceleration but im sure there close)

GMs getting rid of olds is dumb, alero's are nicer than grand ams, bravadas are nicer than trails auroras are 15k less than a sts with more distinctive styling and close performance. What happened to EAGLE!?! were's plymouth been? they don't have much going now, except the slow but nice prowler

and a 5 speed gives you an unfair advantage big59er, I'll never be able to take a 5.9 dakota 5speed with 8k in performance! Let me drop 6k in my car, supercharger, intake, exaust, heads, throttleB and watch me run like a raped monkey just like you

go ahead and make fun of the new name, i figured id give you some ammo since you don't have any!

seriously though, ill stop posting, its been fun!



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10/13/2002
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So Don-Won, if every thing I posted earlier in the preliminary psychoanalysis of Donna-Lawanda is not true then don't post again. If you post again under any screen name it is a statement of fact by you.
Your call hotshot.

Later,

MyVW Killer
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Poor guy has to drive a granny mobile... I'd be pissed off too :P



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