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slider_buck
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
21:58:21
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anyone ever do a before and after dyno with the mopar pcm. i just ordered mine yesterday and i'm kinda curious as to what kind of power i will get out of it. the first thing i will do is do a before and after with the gtech i have.
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
22:00:34
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I am goin to go out on a limb and say you will get at least a 2 tenths gain in the 1/4 with the Mopar PCM. Probably about 15-20hp gain. The best part of the PCM is no speed limiter, raised rev limiter, and the fact that you can set the cruie at any speed over 25mph. You want to cruise at 100mph you can. Also, the increased shift points are nice.
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kota318
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8/18/2002
20:23:06
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quick question(s), is the mopar pcm with it, is there noticable gains in hp and how much are they?
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Canada Ty
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8/18/2002
21:15:17
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I know this sounds dumb because i don't know to much about engines but i'm learning tons from u guys talking i was just wondering what is a PCM is it a chip??
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Troy
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8/19/2002
10:04:56
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It's a Performance Control Module: the computer.
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Troy
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8/19/2002
10:05:47
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I meant Powertrain Control Module. I've got performance on the brain.
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CuriousGeorge
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8/19/2002
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Other than the speed limiter being removed how does the Mopar PCM compare to the Jet module. Are the shifts better with the PCM? My Jet chip does better than stock but the 2-3 shift seems like it comes a little late.
Just curious
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/19/2002
11:20:21
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CuriousGeorge,
The PCM is an actual upgrade, the Jet Stage II is a down grade in performance. The Jet Stage II only produces power at initial wide open throttle, but quickly looses it's gains to the point of actually making the engine loose total overall power, = HP & Torq.
#1 Jet HP with and without chart
#2 Jet HP with and without chart
With the MOPAR PCM you can get real 10 - 20 more HP.
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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Black Magic
Dodge Dakota
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8/19/2002
15:15:27
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yates...
Very interesting. It would be cool if there was any data collected overlyaing all of the different chips.
I'm curious as to how the Leach and Mopar chips compare to stock.
I understand that besides a HP gain, or loss, there are other things that are improved with the addition of the Jet, Leach and Mopar chips.
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kota318
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8/19/2002
15:28:24
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how much does it cost?!?!?!?!
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/19/2002
17:36:51
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$250 not bad to have an upgrade steals 3 - 10 hp.
"I'll Buy that for a Dollar" from the well worn out 2000 SUX commercials.
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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kota318
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8/19/2002
19:41:30
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what do u mean by "steals 3-10hp"? i have dual flowmaster and k&n fipk, will that help at more horsepower, if so, how much could i expect??
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POWER HUNGRY
Dodge Dakota
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8/19/2002
22:49:00
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In an issue of 4wheeler magzine(oct95)an advertisment for the r/t package say that the cpu adds 24hp/25tq to a 92-95 5.2l, 28hp/26ft-lbs. on the 5.9L. They say that dyno tests show a 46hp/51 ft/lbs. of torque increase on a 5.9 with the 5pcs. R/T package.
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/20/2002
00:40:39
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oh, by the way that's the Jet Cip that is a thief not the PCM.
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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Dak Nut
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8/20/2002
01:47:00
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Hello Great message board always learning something. Is there a Mopar PCM for the 2001
4.7 If so does anyone have the P/N ???
Had a Jet stage 2 what a piece of crap.
Have a drop in K/N and 3" Gibson Cat Back Sounds great and runs pretty good just looking for a little more.
Thanks
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/20/2002
02:08:50
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Dak Nut,
Us 4.7L folks have been screwed by MOPAR. They have a part number, but it's bogas. It does not exist.
On a second note there is a couple shops that will actually reprogram the PCM for us. The only draw back is they will not reprogram any PCM with a 98 mph speed limiter, only the ones that will excede 100 mph. They say there is a problem with the drive line in the ones with the 98 mph speed limiter.
One such company is Kenne Bell racing in Ranchocucomanga, CA. You send them your original PCM and they reprogram it and send it back to you.
Turn around time about 72 hrs.
cost about $350. (I think it is well worth it, I had it done to mine)
You can reach them at kennebell@kennebell.net
Another is Mike Leach, but I've heard they don't do anything newer than the 2000 4.7L.
The other is B&G Chrysler, and I talked with them myself and they will not do the 2001 - 20002's, and the charge like $600 clams.
With this info it looks like there is only one place to go Kenne Bell.
Good Luck and Happy Hunting.
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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Dak Nut
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8/20/2002
02:14:58
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Thanks for the info.
Guess I'm out of luck then because mine takes a dump at 96 mph.
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TheJeepGuy
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8/20/2002
14:10:02
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You might wanna see if www.asechips.com has anything available for the 4.7
They offer some nice upgrade PCMs for the Jeeps as well as a ton of other cars/trucks/SUVs, etc.
You send them your PCM, and they take out the stock chip and install one of thiers, and return it to you within 48 hours. It's not a worthless piggyback chip like JET offers.
Gave me 2-3 tenths on my '01 Cherokee 4.0L
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Black Magic
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8/20/2002
15:39:40
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yates,
Do you know where B&G Chrysler and Mike Leach are located? Do you have any contact info for them?
I have a 2000 4.7L and would like to get my PCM flashed.
I live in Michigan and if they are local I could maybe have it done it one day, since I don;t have a spare vehicle.
Thanks!
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Canucker
Dodge Dakota
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8/20/2002
16:53:15
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Here's all the info I have:
Kenne Bell OptimzerII Flash www.kennebell.net
ASE Tuning www.asechips.com $349 USD
B&G Chrysler Specialists
2076 E. Ten Mile Road
Warren, MI 48091
(586) 758-2003
KRC Performance
Marty Fletcher
(321)635-8866
Mike Leach
1443 W. Collins
Orange, CA 92867
(714) 639-5220
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/20/2002
16:58:21
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Black Magic,
You are in luck, they are in Michigan, somewhere. I got there number from KRC Performance. I don't have B&G's number anymore but here is KRC's (321) 635-8866.
Good Luck,
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/20/2002
16:59:20
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Thank you Cannucker.
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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kota318
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
17:10:30
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is it better to have the pcm flashed or buy the mopar performance computer? i live in central cali, does anyne know where i could get either of those locally ?
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/21/2002
19:48:45
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Kota318,
MOPAR PCM or a flash is about the same, except it's cheaper to buy the MOPAR than to have it flashed.
Later,
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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kota318
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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where could i buthe mopar pcm here in CA besides the dealer.. dealer wants 407 bucks for it!!
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yates-in-DE
GenIII
8/22/2002
16:13:32
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Kota318,
I've seen some people here say they can get it for $250+. Start a new thread in the General board and ask. This one has gotten kind of long.
KRC Performance has them for $355. shipped $330 + $25 shipping.
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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