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HSKR
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10/07/2002
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The VIN # is what makes it a R/T. Anything else can be changed fairly easily. So I supposed 402 or 408 strokers are no longer R/T's either?? He's runing a Magnum V-8. The R3 block might be made for race teams, but that doesn't make it a race only block. And for the added preotection from the R3 block design for high hp engines, it's well worht the price.
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MikeD
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10/07/2002
20:56:13
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I think everyone there at the track weren't happy w/ their times. My buddy had a 408 in his R/T and only ran a 13.95 on all motor, he was pretty upset.
The first day I didn't have slicks so I was sliding all over the track.
The second day I borrowed some slicks and hooked up good but I'm still having tranny problems so I only pulled a 14.29 @ 98.7
~Mike~
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MikeD
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10/07/2002
20:59:41
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Waltherone...I made a trip like Bernd...except I drove from dallas not austin. Quite a drive...were you out there?
~Mike~
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AustinL911
Dodge Dakota
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10/07/2002
22:17:51
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10.77???.....aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.......I can beat it......:).............someday...........
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D
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10/08/2002
00:36:49
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maybe a finely tuned TT R/T with all the
goodies, and a 150 shot of squeeze?
BERND....BATTER UP ! ! ! !
2001 4.7 CC auto
Painted Porsche black
shaved door handles & tailgate
welded Sir Michaels roll pan
DJM drop 3/6
airaid intake
180 stat, ported-polished TB
Dynomax 3" catback, carsound cat
HO cams/manifold, 3.92's and sure grip LS collecting dust!
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rtdkota
R/T
10/08/2002
00:41:10
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But Bernd doesn't have an RT...
RTDKOTA
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kota on 20s
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10/08/2002
01:06:47
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didnt ron switch over to the paxton novi 2000 blower?
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
5.2L, 5speed. Powerdyne SC, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, MSD 6BTM, ciramic JBA headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson
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Bernd
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10/08/2002
09:07:56
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Kota: Yes, he did. (He's gone from Kenne Bell, to Vortech, to Paxton in the last three years.)
D: Very possible
Sam: That's why I noted "Fastest Street Driven R/T"...not "Sport" or "SLT". ;)
BTW: There is another TT R/T in the works already. Standard "Bolt-On" modifications included on this one (M1, 1.7:1 Rollers, Cam, Spintech Exhaust, etc.). Should be done in about 2-3 weeks at most.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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CW
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10/08/2002
09:36:03
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I am willing to bet he has a R3 block with a 4.22" bore, billet 3.38" crank, custom pistons, for a short block. Heads... Well a W-9 would be my choice for a the 6 bolt configuration. Less custom stuff required for them.
4.7 HO, CW style
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Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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Tom Slick
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10/08/2002
10:08:22
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Ron's engine was a 3.91 bore, 4.00 stroke... 387 c.i. on an R3 block...with aluminum R/T Heads...
Later!
Tom "Slick"
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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10/08/2002
10:17:12
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So obviously with about 650-700 hp hitting the ground, and he's hazing the slicks for about 100', he's got the suspension almost figured out (otherwise it would be all over the damn place).
What is he doing for suspension tricks?
Cal-Tracs? Drag shocks? Removed stabilizer bars? Removed leafs?
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kota on 20s
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10/08/2002
11:29:10
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tom, since the 387 has the same stroke as a 408, wouldnt it have the save revlimit capibilities?
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
5.2L, 5speed. Powerdyne SC, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, MSD 6BTM, ciramic JBA headers, 3" carsound cat, dumped gibson
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psychoRT
Dodge Dakota
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10/08/2002
12:18:41
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Hmmmm when my truck is up and running it should be a good race between the both of us. Also Yall be looking for a Street driven beast pushing more horses then that in a few months.
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CW
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10/08/2002
14:21:13
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Hmmm.. I still would have gone for more bore and less stroke. His is obviously a excelent combo.
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2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
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CW
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10/08/2002
14:22:53
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Oh yeah I wonder why he got the R block but didn't opt for the heads to take advantage of the 6 bolt head pattern.
4.7 HO, CW style
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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Dakota Jones
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10/08/2002
14:43:45
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Thats sweet and everything... But since its running a 318 and not a 360 I guess its not a true R/T then eh?
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alex
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10/08/2002
15:10:44
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Sort of like how my truck has all the options available on the SLT, but since I wanted the painted bumper trim & lower valance, it's only a Sport?
Who gives a damn? This man drove a street-legal, registered, insured, air conditioned pickup truck through a distance of 1/4 of a mile. That's 1320 feet. Within that distance, his pickup truck with the aforementioned features reached 131 mph. Who cares what the stickers on the side of the truck said?? I'm surprised the stickers didn't just fly off......
Holy Sh!t. What does it matter?
If you take all the trim and badges off of your truck is it still a Dodge Dakota? But it doesn't say Dakota anymore.....
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xplikt
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10/08/2002
15:15:05
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Debadged rules! The chrome bumper kind of gives it away for me though..
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Demon Dakota
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10/08/2002
17:01:20
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I want to debadge mine as well. It's not like I need them to know what the hell I'm driving. Plus it just looks smooth. I like showing as much paint as possible.
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MikeD
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10/08/2002
17:04:13
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Half the old muscle cars out there you see don't have the original engines in them...so if you saw a Challenger R/T but it didn't have the true factory engine in it does that make it not a Challenger R/T anymore?
At least its still a mopar engine and not like how some of those guys do it...buy a old mustang and put a chevy engine in it or somethin.
~Mike~
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alex
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10/08/2002
17:17:06
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Whoa, there fellas.... dont' go taking off all the badges. Don't you think that once you take all the badges off, it's not a true Dodge Dakota then eh?
I mean, for example, once you take the 360 out of an R/T, it's not an R/T anymore is it??
Eh?
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Rob
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10/08/2002
17:40:25
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LMAO
Since I replaced all the chrome SLT stuff I guess I dont have a SLT.
All I have to say is DAMN!I want
 1NICEDAK
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moparjoe20
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10/08/2002
17:52:11
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Probably the reason he went for the 3.91 bore and the 4.0 crank is you will make more power with a stiff bore than a big bore- esp in a blower or turbo motor. Having a 4.150 bore means nothing if it won't seal when you shove 30# of boost against it. If it's like most 4" crank small blocks I've been around redline is at about 6,500 but it has tons of torque which is the key to getting 4300# moving quickly. Looks like a pretty good package - with suspension and chassis work it should run at least 9.70-.80's going from the mph it's pulling.
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alex
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10/08/2002
18:06:31
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Ehhhh, well, maybe 9.90's.... that's usually what 131-134 is good for..... I'd pay good money to see that shyte!
PS- Sorry Rob, when you took off the badges, it became a sport just like mine. D'oh!!
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YA
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10/09/2002
00:10:40
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Street driven = pump gas!
Race truck = race gas.
Give us the best time on pump gasoline(93 octane) for fastest street R/T. Otherwise, on race fuel, it's a race truck.
C5 Vette with mods 9.9/139 pump gasoline(93 Oct.) Now that IS a street car.
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kota on 20s
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10/09/2002
00:44:55
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you can drive his dakota around on 93 with no problems. just dont hit the big red button!
just because he uses race gas at the track, dosent mean that it is not streetable.
there is no way in hell anyone would be able to unleash the power of a 9 or 10 sec car or truck on the street anyway.
thats like saying if you run slicks on a 10 second car, that its a race car....
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
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CW
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10/09/2002
09:34:52
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I guess Duners truck is a race truck as well. He puts in race gas while at the track. Guess it doesn't matter that it is his main mode of trasportaion, or that he tows with it all the time. I am sure he will be the first one to admit that in street form it is slower than at the track.
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2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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Duner
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10/09/2002
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Absolutely. Compromises have to be made if you are going to have a dual use vehicle. My truck is about a full second slower in towing/premium unleaded trim with street tires on the back. That's where I turn the boost down for a safety margin with non-race gas and also hope to preserve the transmission when towing all the weight. I don't consider mine a race truck just because I put race gas in it occasionally. And I certainly have at least a hundred times more towing miles than I do racing miles.
I've pushed the envelope with 10 second cars on the street in the past... and let me tell you - it's a real pain! I enjoy my ice cold AC and decent stereo while I tow my junk to the dunes. I can't tow with it in race trim - and I can't race as quickly with it in towing trim. But give me 5 minutes and 10 gallons of race fuel and I can switch modes!
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moparjoe20
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10/09/2002
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I don't see anything wrong with running a little high octane pump gas in a car - hell I dump a little 114 in my 318 Dakota in the summer . I live in central Florida , it gets hot and humid , we have really crappy gas , and I don't feel like hearing it rattle so I dump 2 or 3 gallons in a tank of gas. It works better than booster and it doesn't dirty up you're plugs.
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Bernd
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10/10/2002
08:57:21
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"C5 Vette with mods 9.9/139 pump gasoline(93 Oct.) Now that IS a street car."
But i'll bet anything it isn't 4300lbs either.
I totally agree with Duner as well. Putting race fuel into the tank doesn't make it a Race Vehicle and even on my truck, the daily driving is kept (somewhat) detuned until I hit the track. (Even in Houston I put in 5 gallons of 104 octane Sunoco.)
If you put a part on your daily driven vehicle that states: "Not Emissions Legal - For Offroad or Racing use only"...does that make it a Race vehicle?
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