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9/14/2002
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ok...ive posted like 18 times, hope im not getting annoying...anyway, i have a 99 c.c. r/t...and it there is no way IN HELL that i am running a 15.4....and i have exhaust and a k+n too...the only weight gain to my truck would be my mtx with subs, and the rhino-lining..last night i actually had trouble with a 5.8 litre ford p/u, and against a z71 chevy with a 5.4....why is this??? i should be beating the crap out of these guys!!!
any recommendations???



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9/14/2002
19:01:16

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how many miles you have on it?do you need plugs?are you using quality fuel?i,m grabbing at straws.how are you shifting?



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9/14/2002
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i have about 35XXX and some change, i changed the plugs to champion plugs (similar to the autolite 3292 or whatever #) have taylor 8mm wires, flowmaster 40 series, 165 degree thermo, toyo 60 series tires, trans-go shift kit and lakewood t-bars....it just feels like its not running near as fast as it should be...



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9/15/2002
03:49:02

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why did you go up to a 60 series tire?

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5.2L, 5speed. Powerdyne SC, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, MSD 6BTM, ciramic JBA headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson

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9/15/2002
10:55:55

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why do you have a 165 degree thermostat?180 is best from what i've read and experienced.if you go too cold,the motor does not get warm enough,robs power.trans kit and trac bars sound good.what gear ya packin in the rear?



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9/15/2002
15:06:59

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ive got the stock 3.92 gears in the rear end, the "165" thermo is probably a 180, thats usually where my temp gauge sits, and i went up to a 60 series cuz the guy at the tire shop put on a 40 series, and i thought it looked awful...this is probably mostly cuz of my last truck (jeep with 31's)..i didnt do enough research on tire sizes and the final gear ratio, if i had it to do again id get a 50 series...
any advice??





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9/15/2002
15:14:23

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your gear ratio has changed cause of your 60
series tire, and the 165 thermo is too cold, try
a 180. I'm sure that rhino lining ways a lot, my
MTX weighed at least 60lbs, if not more.

01 4.7 CC auto 3.92 LS
Dynomax 3" catback, dumped
HO cams, HO intake manifold
ported-polished 68mm TB
180 stat, no clutch fan
airaid intake, DJMdrop 3-6

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9/16/2002
07:53:48

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there is nothing wrong with your truck. the only thing i would do is change out the 165 thermo. for a 180. put it this way my truck keeps up with a stock cc R/T. you dont hardly have any serious mods done to it. what do you expect? maybe the guys you raced had mods? but i dont think anything is wrong with your truck.



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9/16/2002
13:14:22

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Your right in line with most stock R/Ts, It took me a lot of modifications to get my CC R/T into the 14s (M1, Headers/exhuast, PCM Flash, TB, FIPK, etc.). Plus I had my fair share of close calls with what appeared to be slower cars.

After a few more modifications I'm now in the low 14s.

Get yourself if you don't already have: Throttle body, M1 intake manifold, Headers, Mopar PCM. I bet you will see the high 14s with that.



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9/20/2002
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I have a 99 r/t with M-1, 52mm throttle body, roller rockers, headers with true duals and gutted cats, FIPK with hughes oversize K&N,MSD ignition, and PCM.. i thinks thats it... but I ran 2 15.8 on the stock tires.. do you think that the tires can count for my slow time??



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9/20/2002
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afi 360, The aspect ratio increase to 60 series changed your final effective ratio from 3.92 to 3.78, assuming stock 255 width. It would be even more if a wider tire was selected. Next set of tires, look at the Nitto 275/50/17's. Almost same circumference, changes ratio from 3.92 to 3.95. 255/50/17's would net you a 4.07 final ratio.

Fast Eddie



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9/21/2002
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i actually saw my buddy the other day in his cc R/T he just got a cuda hood on it. i was at the light with him and i said "hey does that thing go fast?, why dont we race, my 3.9 vs. your 5.9?" he gave me the finger but it was all in fun. he was smart not racing cause he woulda got laughed at.



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9/22/2002
23:39:57

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Justin, what was your 60' time and mph on your 15.8 run?? I'll bet you spun a lot.





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9/22/2002
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Something close to 3 sec I think. I threw my time sheets away because I was a bit pissed off! All these guy with open headers it so loud you can hear a thing so it's hard to tell how much i was spining them. I hope a set of tires will otherwise im selling it!!



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9/23/2002
10:09:38

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hey justin, i traded my rc r/t for my truck i have now which is a cc r/t....all i have done to it is a 180 thermo and a home brew cold air intake with K&N...and i'm pulling off 15.82s left and right...ya its a bit slower than my reg cab but i had headers, 180, pcm, exhaust plus cold air intake and my best time was a 14.98...i thought that was slow for at least those modes on my reg cab...plus i'm getting tons of wheel spin on both trucks...so dont give up on your club cab..its got potential just keep working on it..thats what i like about my r/t, its not too slow but every litle mod i do to it it improves...i got a buddy with a 01 svt lightning, kicks the sh$t out of me every time i dont mine cause i use him as a goal and every time i get closer and closer..and maybe one day i'll catch up to him..if you wanted just to go fast you could of bought a used GT for the money spent on your truck but whats the fun in that...trucks are more challenging, thats why i have mine..well im done spouting off just thought i throw some change your way...
peace out.




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9/24/2002
12:57:56

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Honestly... in my opinion I think it's "some" of the 99 year model R/T's -- I had a yellow 99 with mods... headers, exhaust, k&n, 180* thermostat and I was getting outrun by 92 V8 318's (and others) - I raced it against a bone stock 00 R/T (with my girlfriend driving the 00 and me driving the 99 - she does know how to race though) and it beat me BAD --- I mean like about 7 car lengths in the 1/8 --- I traded the next day... put the same mods on my 00 R/T and could beat or hang with everything I ever raced....



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9/26/2002
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dude, that's rough. i was out at the track with my '02 4.7 and i beat both of the R/T's that were out there. a RC ran a 15.4 and the CC ran a 15.5
ANd my little 4.7 ran a 15.3....they were confused by that one. yep, life sucks then you die.



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9/26/2002
08:48:54

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What are you running in the 1/8? I was running 9.2's @ 78 mph

That red R/T I had was H@ll off the line



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9/26/2002
20:21:45

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Back to the original Question, your tires have a
lot to do with it, alsotry the 180 stat. Dont be
discouraged, once you do intake and full exhaust,
you should be at about 15 flat. Practice your
starts. It sounds like alot of these guys are
spinning at the start; take it easy in first gear,
then put it down. The M-1 really helps, as does a
TB. I have an extra 2bbl M-1 still in the box if
anyone is intereste



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9/26/2002
20:22:13

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Back to the original Question, your tires have a
lot to do with it, alsotry the 180 stat. Dont be
discouraged, once you do intake and full exhaust,
you should be at about 15 flat. Practice your
starts. It sounds like alot of these guys are
spinning at the start; take it easy in first gear,
then put it down. The M-1 really helps, as does a
TB. I have an extra 2bbl M-1 still in the box if
anyone is intereste



Anibal
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9/26/2002
22:25:25

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chris, how much for the m1?



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9/27/2002
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Chris...Ditto on the price of the M1. Is an auction permissable or is it customary for "first reply, first serve"?

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52mm TB - HomeBrewed K&N Intake - 3923 AutoLites - Relocated IAT - TPS @.73 - 180 TStat
Falken 285/60/R17s on Rear - RoadMaster Active Suspension - SS rollpan - XTang soft Tonneau - Mopar Bra
And one Heavy Foot

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9/28/2002
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The lowest price I have ever seen on an M-1 is
$310. How does $300 sound? That is how much I
paid for it. Reply if you are interested.
Chr



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10/02/2002
20:08:56

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my 60' with the 60series was 2.296, 1/8th was 9.990, 1/4 was 15.665...so i guess its not as bad as i thought :)



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11/08/2002
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I have a 00 cc R/T with 30xxx miles on it,bosch 4 tip spark plugs, k&n drop in filter, custom 3 inch exhust with 40 series flow master into dual exhust out the back and a 180 thermostat. stock goodyear tires. the first run i ever did i got a 15.6, 2nd 15.5 3rd & 4th run after the tires were warmed up i ran a 15.08 both times.



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11/12/2002
08:01:36

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Chris, still got the M1? I'll buy it if you do.

Later,
Robbie.



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11/13/2002
02:05:19

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Gimme the M1!!! I got Three-hundo right here.
How to pay?
Where you at?
email me if you still have it:
erikhh@hotmail.com
Thanks.



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