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Mike
Dodge Dakota
12/04/2001
11:06:42
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I was wondering what the best engine modification was for a 1999 5.9 rt. I already have headers and a k&n intake what can I do next to give me the most power for the money?
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MikeD
Dodge Dakota
12/04/2001
12:27:01
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Hey Mike I got a 2001 R/T and I've got an intake, cat back exhaust, MSD ignition and I've got the 52mm TB on the way. I'd say the TB would be your next best bet it'll add at least 10 HP but it is kinda pricey at $500 for the Flowmetrics TB on Speedtweaks.com but I think its worth it.
~Mike~
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WV R/T
Dodge Dakota
12/05/2001
07:09:29
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I have a 99 R/T too. I would say the next best mod would be a mopar performance computer. It is only about $300. I've talked to people that say it has added as much as 25 horsepower. Not bad for the money. Not to mention that it gets rid of the speed limiter ,gives firmer shifts,and increased timing.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
12/07/2001
23:59:56
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mike, how do you like your headers? did you notice a differance?
Eric
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
17:47:16
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I'll have to agree with everyone here. Get either the TB, or the Mopar PCM. You can pick up the Mopar PCM for $282.70 from www.southeastrt.com and you can get a 50mm billit F&B TB from Sam Parthemer for $390. Email Sam at rtdkota@yahoo.com
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Todd
Dodge Dakota
12/14/2001
20:37:01
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The mopar performance pcm requires special encoding from the dealer according to the mopar catalog,is there any way around that?If I bought one from southeastrt,would the dealer still encode it?I have a 99 rt
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WV_R/T
Dodge Dakota
12/16/2001
07:15:25
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I'm pretty sure you can run it without doing that. The flashing from the dealer just keeps you from throwing a code. It should only cost about 30 bucks to have it done. The dealer has to program your vin and milage into it.
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slider_buck
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
04:26:52
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if you get a mopar computer from krc performance they can program the vin into it for you so that you don't have to mess with a dealer doing it. they charge 330 for the computer and 25 to flash it. just be careful when having the dealership do it for you. i have heard some people talking about the dealer reflashing a stock program back into it, make sure you specifically specify only to flash the vin or you could end up with another stock computer.
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
21:08:37
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I have heard of people talk about the dealer relfashing the Performance PCM with stock program, but hav yet to hear from anyone who it has actually happen to. Urban Legend to me!!! As far as the KRC one. Might be worth looking into. hey might be able ot do a custom flash also. Give them a call. I think John Mercedes is doin a Christmas Special right now $270 for the PCM. www.southeastrt.com
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slider_buck
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
23:44:56
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i ordered a pcm from marty at krc yesterday. he said he would call me when it comes in then he would flash the vin into it and ship it out to me. it was 330 for the pcm and 25 to flash it.
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
12/19/2001
00:14:42
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SO all they do is flash the Mopar PCM for you?? I think I woudl have gone for the $270 www.southeastrt.com PCM and gone to the dealer to get ViN programed
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slider_buck
Dodge Dakota
12/19/2001
00:19:43
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yeah but the dealership will charge you around 50 to flash it and you are taking a chance on them screwing it up and reflashing the stock program into it. i would rather pay the extra 35 and make sure it gets done right by someone who does it all the time.
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CW
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12/19/2001
09:10:48
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Vin programing and flashing at the dealer is a totaly separate deal.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
12/19/2001
22:02:58
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Like I posted before, I have never actually heard of anyone actually getting the stock program "flashed" onto their Mopar PCM. It has been said it can happen, but never actually heard of it happening to anyone, so until then don't worry about the dealer loading the VIN and mileage into vcomputer
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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/20/2001
13:21:07
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Nitrous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hand's down
150 horse for about $500
Find any other mod that does that.
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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kota on 20s
GenIII
12/20/2001
14:34:20
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have you seen the maxima that WAS using nitrous untill it blew up (literaly)? find another mod that will do that. hehehe
Eric
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MikeD
Dodge Dakota
12/20/2001
15:26:13
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Yeah I think that unless you plan on using your truck other than a daily driver, spring for the NOS but if your just a daily driver NOS might not be the way to go.
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MikeD
Dodge Dakota
12/20/2001
16:55:00
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About that mopar PCM on that southeastrt website...all they give you is the part numbers, they don't tell you what the price is. Where we supposed to find out how much they are selling them for?
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
12/20/2001
21:02:32
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Send John a parts request. He has a Christmas special goin right now $270 until Christmas
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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/20/2001
21:44:44
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I used nitrous and it was my every day driver. If you use it the right way it is as safe as using 87 octane in a truck. If you learn about it and use it the way it should be used then no problems. I drove it every day and raced it twice a week and my 318 looked like brand new when I took it apart. Pistons, valves, Rods ,bearings all perfect. Is it the best mod yes. If you want to spend it on a supercharger and get half the performance go right ahead. $4,000 dollars is a whole lot of nitrous. You want performance juice is the way to go. Look at the fastest Daks (on the bottle). Sorry other than Duner with his turbo. That's class but nitrous is alot easier mod. Time wise and money wise.
You want to go fast than use the bottle. For those of you who think the bottle is cheating than cut your belt off or plug your exhaust for the turbo and run motor for motor because they all do the same thing.
Racing is racing. How you get there don't matter it's who get's there first.
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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Brandon
Dodge Dakota
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11/12/2002
00:44:00
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I have a 99 regular cab RT. I have been thinking about bags. Can anybody tell me how pricey they may be and if they have any problems.
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Robbie
Dodge Dakota
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11/12/2002
05:56:04
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Mike... I am in the same boat as you are with this question and it looks like that the B&G Flash is going to be flat out amazing. It is normally $630, but if you do the group rate, it's only $530. Read up on it a little bit and I think you'll be really impressed.
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Wraithdakrt
Dodge Dakota
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11/13/2002
17:57:35
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John at southeastrt will also flash your vin and mileage for you before he sends it to you for $30. With the Christmas price of $270. That is hands down the best price out there for a Mopar PCM. By the way. They work great. Just got mine from John. Great service. 25 ponies for $300.
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litlpunisher
GenIII
11/13/2002
18:04:31
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150hp for under $600
98 Dakota
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
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11/13/2002
23:00:54
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This thread was almost a year old! How do these things get ressurected? I guess some people really do search a while before they post something new! Heck Mike's 99 probably still had that 'new car smell' when this was first posted!
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Jacque
Dodge Dakota
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11/15/2002
15:05:45
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I wish there was a place on this site you could post results from the mods that people install about each engine. Have a chart on each engine and tabulate the results for all to see. Like this guy wanting to know about the 5.9 engine and the best mods for it. He could look down the list of mods. See how many people installed this product or performed this mod, their comments, results, gains made, and changes in et. If you did this people could form their own opinions about a particular product or mod regarding different engines and you wouldn't get the same questions asked as new people join or visit this forum. Just a thought.
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Chip
Dodge Dakota
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1/22/2003
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Could any of you RT owners send me pics of your factory electric fan & relay amp rating at ofelas@rogers.com ?
Thanks...
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dtech
Dodge Dakota
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2/18/2003
02:58:44
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just so all of you out there know, you cannot flash a mopar performance pcm with a factory flash. the flashes for the factory pcms are part number specific to each factory pcm which means the mopar data 2 system wouldn't even try to update or downgrade any non numbers matching controller. and besides, about 99.9% of those flashes are updates per tsb's only. Being a dodge technician does clearly have it's advantages, doesn't it. hope this helps all you mopar nuts.
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Josh Holder
Dodge Dakota
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2/26/2003
10:33:09
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Does anyone know if the second stage chip is reprogramable
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Demon Dakota
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2/26/2003
16:10:49
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Best mod for the money will always be N2O...
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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nshape8
Dodge Dakota
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2/26/2003
18:58:31
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IMHO, "bang for the buck,"#1 m1 2bbl #2 K&N 9" cone & large turtle (combo) #3 Mopar Perf. PCM #4 Transgo Shift Kit #5 F&B 50mm TB #6 MP 2400 stall converter #7 MP headers #8 NX EFI GenX II & MSD Digital 6 Plus (combo) #9 Gutted 3" Catco Cat & Spin Tech 5441 Muffler #10 MSD Blaster SS coil #11 Mickey Thompson ET Street 28/11.5/15's #12 JGC electric fan #13 1.7 perf roller rockers #14 upgrade your valve springs to keep from floating
*cheap mods*
180* T-Stat
autolite plugs 1 colder (5423's i think)
IAT sensor relocation
Brass cap & rotor
On race day, take your tail gate, spare, bed cover, 1/4 tank, and whatever else you can remove to get weight down to 4000lbs. Make several runs with lot's of focus on the launch. Pick a nice cool day and you'll be in the high 11's to 12's. Good luck!
Dan
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