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Glynn
Dodge Dakota
11/27/2001
16:52:19
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A mechanic buddy of mine suggested that I get the automatic tranny fluid changed as soon as possible on my 2001 Dakota 4.7l 4X4 4300km., and then add a conditioner to keep the solenoids lubricated better. I'm concerned that this may void the warranty, so he suggested to get the dealer to do it. Any idea what the cost of this would be (I live in Canada) and if its a good idea.
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Boomer
Dodge Dakota
11/27/2001
19:19:40
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I know that Mopar tranny's need a special Type 7176 fluid (ATF +3, non of that Dex III or Mercon III). And, I think that the 00-01 trannys need ATF+4, I'm not for sure though. As far as changing it and adding and additive by the dealer, they use the same stuff that came from the factory, so why the change. The difference in fluid in the Dex III and ATF +3 is a friction modifier, kinda like the stuff added to rear ends for LSD and posi. I have a 97 and a different tranny, but I see no reason to do this unless a Technical Service Bulletin comes out for the tranny.
Boomer
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
11/27/2001
19:29:01
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y change the fluid? The dealer will put the same trans fluid in the Truck ,, a 01-
99-01 uses 7176 fluid (ATF +4) not 3
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Glynn
Dodge Dakota
11/28/2001
10:53:08
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My mechanic buddy said that due to the transmission being new, there would be filing/metal particals in the fluid and blocking the filters.
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robert
Dodge Dakota
11/28/2001
13:24:02
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The Multi-speed automatic transmission used with the 4.7 V-8s need Mopar ATF+4 ONLY. This transmission is the 45RFE. The year of the vehicle has nothing to do with the fluid. It is the transmission model that matters. The 45RFE has to have ATF+4. The other autos can take ATF+3. I don't recommend adding any additives. Just use the ATF+4 and you will be fine. Also, as far as aftermarket tranny fluid... unless it SPECIFICALLY STATES that it is meant for transmissions that must have ATF+4, don't use it. A general statement about "good for Mopar transmissions" is not good enough. Not all Mopar transmissions are created equal.
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CW
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11/28/2001
14:19:58
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Mopar swiched to atf+4 in all vehicles 2001 and up.
2001 4.7 5sp RC 3.92 LSD sport plus
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Rascal
Dodge Dakota
11/29/2001
21:05:47
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CW, wasn't it before 2001?
Glynn, you need a new mechanic...
Rascal
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CW
GenIII
11/29/2001
21:13:31
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You are right. I should modify my statement 45rfe trans had the ATF+4. Everthing else was swiched in 2001. I am pretty sure of that. Now you made me wonder I might have to look in a book now. hehe
2001 4.7 5sp RC 3.92 LSD sport plus
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Nick A.
Dodge Dakota
11/29/2001
21:58:43
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It sure wouldn't hurt to do a filter change if it's in the budget. Like he said about those filings in the filter. Any new mechanical piece will wear in and for that you will get those small particles that could possibly clog your filter. As for changing it , If you can afford it than it wouldn't hurt to do so but I wouldn't worry about it. My rearend was recently making a grinding sound at 40,000 miles and so I pulled the cover off and changed the fluid and it stopped making that horrible noise. A simple fluid change saved me some big time $$$$$$$$ . Come to find out that a locking rear end has a 4,000 mile breakin period and I was supposed to change the fluid after that time. Well I didn't know that until now ofcourse!!! There was a 1" x 1" x 1 cm high pile of small metal shavings from the breakin period!!! 99 slt w/ 5.2 4x4 5 spd
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Nick A.
Dodge Dakota
11/29/2001
22:03:57
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Find someone to help you do it and it'll prob. cost around $50 for filter and fluid. As for your warranty question, you'll prob. never need to bring it in to get fixed from the dealer as long as you do a filter/fluid change around every 40,000- 50,000 miles
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Aaro
Dodge Dakota
11/30/2001
18:01:54
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I was told by a local dealer that +4 is +3 with the anti-foam already in it.That sounds right because with the same trans(42re or 46re but one year latter) running +4 anti-foam is not required.
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FlameRed98
Dodge Dakota
12/28/2001
18:08:10
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what about the 44RE.. I had my transmission warranted because it was shifting into neutral on the 2-3 shift. (old trans has about 67,000mi on it) the new transmission has about 15,000 miles on it and thought about having a dealer flush it.. anything I can do aside from flush/filter to prolong the tranny from dying in another 45,000 miles? shift kit? new pcm? (does a pcm control the shift points or no?)
98 Flame Red CC 4x4 5.2 liter
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dbaker2001
Dodge Dakota
12/28/2001
20:10:44
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I was having trouble with my last truck wanting to stick when it shifted my wonderful mopar dealer said they would have to rebuild the rear section of the tranny. 1500.00... I took it to the local tranny shop and they put it on one of the new evactuator type machines, completly drains your entire system then they flush it with cleaner till it's clean, and also put seal conditioner in it. drove just like new afterwards till I just sold it, over 2 years later. I'm sold on it I will have my new dak done every 2 years just to avoid any problems. cost? about 100.00. beats the dealer's solution....
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Curious Gorge
Dodge Dakota
12/29/2001
20:25:32
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Can you use Amsoil synthetic ATF in a 45RFE?
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Bill
Dodge Dakota
12/30/2001
21:18:04
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I have a 91 auto with over 130,000 miles on it. Since I bought it three years ago, it seems to shift to late in or out of overdrive. The previous owner said it was design for pulling a trailer. Please let me know how to fix it.
Also, there was an awful grinding sound after I bought it that sounded like brakes. It was not the brakes. I had the rear differential fluid change and it stopped. They said there was water in it.
Bill
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Big Blue
Dodge Dakota
1/03/2002
09:16:33
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Yes Curious George, Amsoil ATF meets all ATF+4 requirements. Make sure the trans is flushed rather than just pulling the pan and draining it. This will get out all the fluid, including the torque convertor. Good luck.
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Curious Gorge
Dodge Dakota
1/03/2002
20:16:25
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Apprecieate your input Big Blue. Giant fan or IBM fan? Just curious.
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FlameRed98
Dodge Dakota
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1/15/2002
19:07:37
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pre-magnum engines with 4 speed automatics are
actually TF-727 with a bolted on OverDrive, A-518
is the dodge name/number. my friend has a 91
fullsize 5.2/4spd auto and his does the same
thing.. slow pump. shifting in and out of
overdrive means the engine isnt making enough
horsepower to keep the thing going.. (178k on
whole truck)
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LeE ss13
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
11:51:02
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In December 87 I was looking for new truck that could tow a boat and drive 100 miles a day for work in L.A. The best choice was 3.9 V6 Dakota with a 3-speed only 999 trans (I think that's the number). I drove it 336,000 miles with the same engine and trans. So in June this year I went to Frahm Dodge in CA and bought an new CC 4.7 with that Multi-speed trans. It feels like it shifts 10 times from stop sign to stop sign. The high stahl speed in the converter must be generating a lot of heat which makes me think it will have shorter life than my last one. How long do they expect these transmissions to last?
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LeE ss13
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D
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
22:03:37
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my tranny doesnt feel like its gonna last...It
jumps real hard sometimes from 1st gear to
2nd. On the dealer recall board, there is a
thread about bad tranny's, and it doesnt look
good for us 45RFE owners. P.S, my truck has
only 9000 miles on it
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01/4.7/CC3.55/airaid/Dynomax3"/TBspacer/
180stat/JetStage2/DJMdrop3-6/pegleg
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chrisW
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2002
11:58:18
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Hi everybody i have a 97 dakota cc 4x4 5.2L and it has a 44RE tranny just recently it started slipping real bad especially between 2nd and 3rd shift anyways I have a supercharger and other performance mods for it that i havent installed yet because i want to get my tranny prob straight Does anybody know where i can send it to for them to make it stronger or a replacement that can take the abuse i give it thank you any help will be greatly appreciated
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Blckdak
GenIII
2/11/2002
19:56:29
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Big Blue
Have you used the AMSOIL ATF +4?
I have some and was thinking of putting it in.
Erin
2000 CC 4x4 Sport
Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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JUSTIN
Dodge Dakota
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2/15/2002
13:15:07
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SOMEONE WITH A FACTORY MANUAL PLEASE PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.
2000 YR. 45RFE NO REMOTE COOLER.
1.FLUID CAPACITY FLUID & FILTER CHANGE, HOW MANY QUARTS NEEDED TO FILL?
2.PROCEDURE FOR READING DIP-STICK TO GET ACCURATE FLUID MEASURE.( GO BY BETWEEN COLD MARKS, OR
BETWEEN HOT MARKS)?
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Fred
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2003
10:31:07
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I have a 2003 Dakota SXT 3.9 V6 four speed automatic transmission. The transmission hums at 45 mph and has a shaving metal sound all the time. I asked the dealer about it and the normal response was it's normal. Does anyone out there have an idea of how to eliminate the humming noise and the shaving metal sound. I would really appreciate any help anyone has out there.
Thanks
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Stoggs
Dodge Dakota
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5/26/2003
16:20:36
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I assume your truck is out of warrenty. I cannot help you with the torque converter, but I would like to let everyone know that if they have problems with thier trucks while under warranty and the dealer fails to fix it properly; after the third try you truck could be covered by the lemon laws. I learned the hard way. I made many trips to the dealer to fix a sloppy transmission shift problem while the truck was still under the factory warranty. I was never fixed properly. Now with 65K on the the truck, the sloppy shift has grown to 2nd gear complety gone - slips like hell.
The result - the dealer says it will cost $2500.00 to fix it! What the @#$%^$#! Stick to your guns if you have a problem which is covered under warranty! Call the Chrysler Care number and pinch a fit! Or else....
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CDAWG
Dodge Dakota
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5/27/2003
18:02:19
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I got my DAK with 35,000 miles on it. I think the manual calls for tran fluid change every 30,000. When I changed it their was a pile of shmeg in their. Mine hesitates for 2 seconds in the mornings before engaging in first. I live in Florida so I think it is fluid drained not a temp problem, but it seems pretty normal as she'll light em up out of the driveway. It appears very important to maintain proper fluid level and change every 30k, also let the truck warm up. Anybody else have this?
99' Gold flamed yellow ext cab, K&N, Flowmaster, 65 TA radials.
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JUSTIN
Dodge Dakota
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5/28/2003
08:15:44
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Hey Stoggs, I have the same delay I have a 2000 Dodge 4.7L 45RFE 2-wheel drive stock club cab.
How many quarts did it take to fill? did you fill to the "between the low mark dimples" when truck is running at idle, in N. cold or 70'. I filled mine, its just above the high mark of the "low-or-cold-mark dimples, on the dip stick.
mine took approx 4.75 quarts with the flat filter-change. I think it takes 5.5 for both filter changes. If you remeber how many quarts?
I think the delay is some sort of computer-warm-up program that is used by Dodge?
Hey does your truck have a limit at 100MPH? when I get to 98MPH the engine kills it self, how do you eliminate this speed limiter?
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mac
Dodge Dakota
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7/17/2003
08:20:30
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I have a 99 Dodge Dakota Sport, 5 speed. I dont know much about tranny's so i need some help. At the back of my tranny there is a small black cylinder which a hose is connected to. It is broken where the hose meets the cylinder and all the fluid has leaked out. I am going to have to replace the cylinder and get fluid back in the system, can someone tell me what i need to do?
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patindahat
Dodge Dakota
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7/17/2003
20:43:41
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Mac, and all people that read this (including the people above him).... MAKE A NEW POST. Your question isn't based on the initial question for this thread, so really it has no relavency.... You'll also get quicker, and more replies that way....
Check to see if its just the hose thats gone, and possibly just the fitting the hose attaches to, that'll save you alot of money. not sure exactly what your talking about though, so I'm just giving general advice about a busted hose.
Pat - Ex nihilo nihilus
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dodgeman1
Dodge Dakota
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8/23/2003
21:53:19
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I have a 2001 4.7 V8 4*4 dakota. I just changed the trans fluid in it. The filter is strange, took me all day to find someone who carries it. It looks like an oil filter but a little smalller. The only thing is, it didnt come with a gasket, I had to make one. now i leak fluid and fear i have to do it all over again. The fluid isnt cheap. Does anyone know if they make a gasket out of the cork material for my trans pan? It has 15 bolt holes.
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jeremiah2360
Dodge Dakota
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8/23/2003
22:27:04
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bulkpart.com, way cheaper than dealer, good quality filtran filters, cork gasket as well. don`t forget to order O ring type gasket for the non-spin on filter.
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