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RaceHorse
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7/03/2002
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Has anyone installed the new FIPK for the 4.7 Dakota. How has it affected performance and fuel economy. Do you think it was worth the money?
Ken
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Knobbyman
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7/04/2002
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http://www.knobbyman.com/Pictures/KandN_57-1516.jpg
As far as people that have installed it.. I really don't know. I've been wondering the same thing.
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Greg D.
Dodge Dakota
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7/06/2002
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I ordered mine yesterday from TruckPerformance.com, should be here sometime next week. After I get it installed, I'll let you guys know.
-Greg D.
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Mark Morrison
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7/08/2002
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I have had mine installed now for about two weeks. It sounds great and seem sto work good. My fuel mileage increased roughly 1 mile per gallon. Not a great gain, but at least it is something. The sound the engine makes with this intake is just great. Is it worth the money. I think it is, but others will say no. It gains you roughly 7-8 hp.
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RaceHorse
Dodge Dakota
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7/10/2002
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Greg and Mark
Thanks for the information - it would be an easier decision to spend the money if it were more horses and about 2 mpg. I hope to get more replies as others install the FIPK
Ken
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Greg D.
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7/11/2002
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Just got my FIPK installed earlier today-took about an hour to do it after I scrounged up the tools. Went and drove around to test it and when you step on it, it GROWLS! A very nice sound to it. Didn't dyno my truck before so I have no idea on power/torque gains, but once I add exhaust in a week or so should open it up nicely.
-Greg
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RaceHorse
Dodge Dakota
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7/12/2002
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Greg, sounds like you are pleased with the FIPK. Where did you order it from or did you pick it up at a parts store. All I have near me is Advance Auto and I am sure it would be special order. I am in central Virginia.
Ken
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Greg D.
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7/12/2002
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Ken- I ordered it off of truckperformance.com last weekend because they had free shipping. Total w/ tax was $288. I am very pleased with it so far. I recommend.
Greg
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Ian
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7/13/2002
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apparently the fipk for the 4.7 is only carb certified for 2000-01 and not for the 2002. I have a 2002 and would like to get the fipk, is there any reason it won't eventually be carb certified? Is it just a matter of time, or is there something different about 2002's? It will fit the same right?
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Tim CH
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7/13/2002
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Summit Racing wants 248.30 for it (1999 Dakota R/T) - good price BUT they cannot send it to Europe due to the hazardous material :-(
Tim
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Greg D.
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7/13/2002
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Does anyone know what that rubber flap next to the radiator does? I would think that by removing it, the engine could get more air and improve the performance a little. Is it their so rocks don't hit the radiator lines? Thanks. Oh, I can also post a pic of the FIPK if anyone is interested.
Greg
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maaRTe
Dodge Dakota
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7/13/2002
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greg, take that plastic sh*t off! thats "free" horsepower you will get by romoving that ugly thing. can you say "ram-air"?? check out speedtweaks and read some of their horsepower tips.. its in there
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WallyR
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7/13/2002
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That flap is there to force more air thru the condenser and radiator. If your not concerned about a possible loss in A/C performance, go for it-and let us know if you can tell a difference.
Wally
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Greg D.
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7/16/2002
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I removed the rubber flap-didn't really notice any performance difference...yet at least. Thursday I'm getting a Magnaflow 3" cat-back system put on, so that should add some. I'll let you know.
Greg
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Tad_W
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7/16/2002
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For those of you who don't have $200 plus to spend on a K&N FIPK:
http://www.stores.ebay.com/desertairintakes
Click on the number next to our name (rezreal) to see that we have had many satisfied customers over the past year.
Our intakes WILL NOT WORK with late year 2002 4.7L. DC has added a sensor directly into the stock throttle body hat.
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WallyR
Dodge Dakota
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7/17/2002
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Tad, get lost with your overpriced, homemade PVC piece of crap intake that anybody could build for $40 with parts from Home Depot and some noname filter.
What the hell is a throttle body "hat" on a 4.7?? The tube goes straight into the TB. More proof you're full of it and everybody knows your crap melts with high underhood temps in the summer. Get lost, a-hole!!
Wally
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Tad_W
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7/17/2002
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WallyR,
Sorry to upset you WallyR.
Many people on this website refer to the stock "fixture" that connects to the throttle body of the 4.7L as the "throttle body hat." It actually is a primary noise dampening chamber. In the year and a half we have been selling these intakes, we have had nobody reporting a problem with melting including intakes shipped to Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV, and many to Texas.
"No name filter" you say WallyR??? We decided not to use NAPA or PepBoys paper filters. : )
Sorry to confuse you WallyR. We use new K&N cone filters Re-0870. Yes, ABS tubing parts are about $40 and the filter is about $40. Our beginning bid price is $94.80.
If you want to make your own intake, that's ok. If you want to buy a K&N FIPK or other name brand intake, that is ok. Our intakes are for people on a budget who want an intake that works without the high price of a name brand intake.
for those of you who know how EBay works, when you get to our auctions, click on the number next to our name (rezreal) and you will see that we have several pages of comments from satisfied customers. If you still are irritated by our auctions, sorry. I get irritated when people forget we are in a free enterprise society and that small entrepreneurs have a right to compete with large name brand companies. I apologize to all of you that we offend.
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Cotharyus
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7/18/2002
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I installed my FIPK on my '01 4.7 yesterday. It certainly didn't hurt my low end torque, and I think I can honestly say the butt-dyno says the top end is a little snappier. I must say however, that even added to a bone stock engine, the FIPK has made that truck huge loud when you get into it. It has a growl that has nearly scared several vehicles off the road as I passed them in 3rd gear.
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yates-in-de
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7/18/2002
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Cot,
now if you can keep your foot off the floor so you can hear it it should get better fuel milage.
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My VW Killer
Lynn
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WallyR
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7/18/2002
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Kinda fun (in a sick way) to watch those mommies scramble for their children as you come around the corner...
Wally
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Greg D.
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7/18/2002
20:12:33
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Just got a Dynomax 3" single system installed today, and along with the new FIPK it sounds Great! Feels like it picked up some nice power too. No idea on gas mileage yet, as my foot somehow got much heavier...
Greg
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Cotharyus
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7/18/2002
20:13:33
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Actually I got better milage on my last tank (post install) than I did on the tank before that by a half mpg - and thats listening to it a little myself and letting a few friends listen to it as well. Of course I didn't pull the trailer with it on that tank, but I'll find out about that tomorrow.
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Bob W
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7/18/2002
22:08:18
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I ran the Volant cool air system with the rubber flap removed for about 4,000 miles, it is similar to k&n’s truck ran great a little loud but it ran great.
I bought a K&N drop in filter and put the stock air system and rubber flap back on, and the truck runs great a lot quieter but it runs great. Hmmm I wonder if the three hundred $ was worth it.
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MikeD
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7/19/2002
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hahaha....Wally I know exactly what your talkin about...w/ this 3" exhaust and no cats my R/T rumbles. The other day I was going through a parking lot and this lady grabbed onto her kid and hugged her like I was gonna kill em both. It was funny..."but in a sick way". LOL
~Mike~
Get In...Sit Down...Shutup...& Hangon
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xplikt
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7/19/2002
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In my neighboorhood, there is this man down the street from me, who runs in front of me and flips me off and yells whenever I go by; he does this wheather I go 15 or 30, so it's not speed. A week ago he was out front and saw me coming from down the street, he then raced to jump in front of me on a bicycle and then processed to chase me on the bike, very interesting he is. I wondered if maybe it was my very mellow exhaust, so I revved at him as I went by slowly and he freaked out even more than usual.
Be thankful you do not have mentally ill people chasing you as you go by.
Oh yeah, do intakes actually have an effect on the sound of the exhaust?
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Cotharyus
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7/19/2002
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xplikt - I would have to say that intakes can affect the sound of the exhaust. This is based strickly on the fact that I can actually hear my exhaust (not the engine, but my exhaust) when the engine lugs back a little in 5th going up a hill and I get into it just enough to hold my speed. Nothing scientific, just real life results. BTW, about that neighbor - next time he runs out in front of you, stop, let him stand in the middle of the road, then charge him - make sure you lay down at least 30 feet of rubber. If he does it again, put on some latex gloves or something, cut off all your hair, steal a car, and run him over, then ditch the car. (oh wait, I've thought that out, and it would be premeditated - maybe you better not)
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xplikt
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7/19/2002
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I'll blame DOOM.
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crm
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7/19/2002
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yes, blame DOOM!!! i love it when news people talk about the adverse effects of "violent" video games and then play a clip of DOOM. a game thats almost 10 years old and long since obsolete and it apparently still corrupts young minds!!! wow, what staying power!!!
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WallyR
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7/20/2002
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I gotta vent on this one...
I bought my truck in the first week of May this year. In the third week of May, after searching websites for countless hours, I called K&N to inquire about the FIPK for an 02 w/4.7. I asked again and again if and when they planned to release a product for this truck. The answer was no, no plans, don't know anything about it. Less than two months later and WA-LA, it magically appears. Doing business that way is not how you build a faithful customer base. I'm glad I bought another brand. I'll bet the K&N is made out of the same cheap plastic they're known for-I'm enjoying popping the hood and hearing "wow" over the shiny, polished stainless sewer-pipe-sized intake strapped on top of my 4-7. Screw K&N.
OK, I'll get off my soapbox now...
Wally
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RaceHorse
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7/20/2002
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Wally,
What did you install. Like you I am not so sure K&N is the way to go. Any information is appreciated.
Thanks
Ken
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WallyR
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7/20/2002
22:34:22
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Ken,
I went with the AirForce One kit. The element isn't surrounded by a box, but it is a straight 3" tube with one 90 degree bend. I think it has less pressure drop than some of the others, like the z-tube.
Wally
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