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6/15/2002
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G-Tech for 0-60s or 1/4 or actual strip times for 1/4 times.
What are people getting with there 4.7 v8's auto/stick? Stock trim/modified?
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QwikKota
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6/18/2002
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Hit a 15.75@86MPH on Friday at the drags. That was at 95degrees and sea level. An R/T was running a 15.60. My truck is bone stock plus the extra weight of my sub/amp box - 150lbs. I am pretty sure I can get to 60 in about 6.5 secs and run a qtr at 14.9 on a 65 degree day.
02' 4.7L 5spd CC 3.92LS
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slider_buck
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6/18/2002
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my best time out of my gtech is 14.7@97mph. my best 0-60 is 5.7. i usually run right at 6 on my 0-60 though, need some need meats now that i'm fixing it up. the only way that i got my best runs was by not giving it full throttle till 20 mph so i know that with some new meats i should be about 14 flat maybe high 13 in the 1/4.
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Jason
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6/22/2002
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I have a 93 dodge dakota with a 5.2 liter. with dule exhaust and i ran 0-60mph in 6 seconds flat.
Well my cylinder heads cracked and i bought a new rebuilt motor with 360 heads and a crane cam, mopar headers,jet chip,traction bars,new push rods,rocker arms,and port and polished intake mantifold, i'm just puting it together, so i'll tell ya what i do in the 1/4 mile.
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John925
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6/24/2002
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sliderbuck: 5.7 Sec. 0-60 , High 13's....
What are you driving?
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MikeD
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6/24/2002
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Yeah somethins funky about that time...I have a highly modified R/T and my best time on a muggy day is 2.2 in the 60' and 14.4 in the 1/4 and thats w/ slicks. Of course my computer is still learning the changes but I think he's gettin his hopes up for 14 flat or even 13's....maybe w/ some laughin gas ;)
~Mike~
'01 R/T
.512/.512 Kammer Cam, MP 2400 Stall, True Duals w/ Flowmaster 40 series, M-1 2bbl, F&B 52mm TB, Airaid, JBA headers, JBA 9mm wires, Kenne Bell Optimizer II, 160 t-stat, 3rd cat removed, Chrome R/T badges
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Waltherone
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6/24/2002
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I've gotten really confused lately because of this site. I hear 4.7's stock running low 15's, then I hear of things like a "highly modified r/t" running 14.4, how could the stock 4.7 even be CLOSE to a modified RT??
I'm seriously rethinking what kind of vehicle I buy next, within the next three weeks, simply because DECENT mileage is definitely not worth it to me if my truck isn't even that fast...
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CW
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6/24/2002
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Mine at 3000 feet on a good day are 14.85 on the G-tech.
2001 4.7HO RC 5sp 3.92 LSD
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alex
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6/24/2002
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Waltherone,
There's lots of folks here with G-Tech numbers that they are considering to be gospel truth. Some folks realize that it's just a "thingie hanging from the windshield" but there's a lot of other people who really think they can run 14.4 and hit 97 mph (should be about 14.4 @ 93 or 94 mph). The true way to figure out your 1/4 mile Elapsed Time is to go to a sanctioned 1/4 mile drag strip with timing equipment and race your vehicle against the timing clocks. That will give you your 1/4 mile elapsed time.
This is just going to disintegrate into a 4.7 vs 5.9 arguement, but there are some stock 4.7 trucks that have run hi 14's right off the dealer floor. There are some R/T's that run quicker off the dealer floor. But the hotter the weather gets and the higher the track elevation is, the slower any truck will run. Matt Barret ran his stock 4.7 truck to a 14.7 but that was in cold weather at approx 100' elevation.
I can't imagine how Mike D is only running a 14.4 with all the mods listed in his signature, but maybe it's the weather and where he is racing. I also can't figure out how he's only hitting a 2.2 60' on slicks because I can do that on street tires. There are some fishy things going on there.
The end result...... you need to test drive an R/T and a 4.7 stick truck on the same day at the same dealer and pay attention to every little thing about the acceleration...... Did it take a while to start really pulling? Did it start pulling hard right out of the hole? Did it keep pulling all the way up to redline? Did it really fall on it's face at 4000?
And then you need to consider what you are willing to do to make your truck faster after you have bought it. Do you want the pedigree of the 5.9 or the unproven technolgy of the 4.7? It's all up to you & your research findings.... Don't let this site confuse you.
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Waltherone
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6/24/2002
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Heh,the site can confuse me, I'm just tryin not to let it CHANGE my mind.
I can't afford the gas for the 5.9, theres no question about that. I'm barely being able to afford this truck, parents arent helping pay for any of it, but I have a very long drive to school 3-4 days a week, plus normal in town driving, so if I get a dakota, the 4.7 is what I will get. My only concern is, I really like speed. Racing by no means will be my love, I'll be doin audio competition and won't even start engine work for several months or more.
But my concern is, when the time comes to get into engine stuff I don't want it all to be a waste of money, ya know? I'm down in houston, dunno the elevation here but I would assume its not very high given we are right near the coast and all, its always hot here tho..
That isn't my problem, cuz if I run against another truck he would have the same disadvantage that I would with weather. Only thing throwing me off is all these times.
Also, I can't get stick, only auto--I need as much leg room as possible for kick panels and/or midbass pods down there. But with a transgo kit, whenever they finally release it, I would think it wouldn't make much of a difference except for launch rpms.
Do you have a 4.7? Have you run yours at a track, or anywhere where you have a REAL accurate time??
And also for the sake of misunderstanding....what is gtech?? ;)
My original reason for picking the dakota is cuz I can do a lot with the cabin space for audio, and it's speed will definitely be an improvement over my corolla I have now, but I want a BIG improvement :D
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MikeD
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6/24/2002
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Alex where are you from? Guarantee you bring your truck down here in the hot muggy weather and you can pretty much add about .5 or .75 to your best time that your running right now. I'm sure if I was in cold weather and 0% humidity & my computer has completely got all the mods in sync w/ one another I'd be in the mid to low 13's. Humidity and heat suck in a race. And the reason why my 60's are so low is cuz I can't punch it out of the hole because I'm havin a tranny problem...it won't shift out of 1st of I floor it. A Trango will cure that problem though.
~Mike~
'01 R/T
.512/.512 Kammer Cam, MP 2400 Stall, True Duals w/ Flowmaster 40 series, M-1 2bbl, F&B 52mm TB, Airaid, JBA headers, JBA 9mm wires, Kenne Bell Optimizer II, 160 t-stat, 3rd cat removed, Chrome R/T badges
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alex
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6/24/2002
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I have the 4.7 clubcab with a 5-spd and a 3.55 rear. Stockstockstock it's gone 15.8's... With a cold air tube and some synthtic fluids and a few break in miles, it sped up to a 15.4x..... I have added a dynomax cat back, removed the clutch fan, and added a 70 mm Tb adn that picked it up to a 15.18 @ 90.11 in May at Atlanta Dragway (which is like 1050 ft above sea level). Houston is usually where the NHRA boys set all the big records because of the low elevation and the good air. Granted, the heat will take it out of any motor, but you are lucky to be so close to sea level.
I make all my runs at Atlanta Dragway, so, that's pretty damn accurate, I guess. I have recently added a 3" cat and 3" inch pipe from the y-pipe back to the start of the 3" dynomax system that I already had. I will know the results on that this coming Friday nite.
As for power in the 4.7, the top three mods that will give you power are the computer flash, the 3" exhaust (alllll the way back), and the 70 mm TB.
Currently, I am expecting hi 14's out of mine (HO cams & Intake coming up along with a Leach flash) by August. Right now, I am making about 17 mg around town and 20.5 on the highway (which is 80 mph with the windows down. That's a far sight better than the R/T.
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Waltherone
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6/24/2002
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I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get it still. I dunno, all those slow ass times I hear just worry me :)
The one I found is a used 2000, 45k miles, if I get it inspected and it does well at inspection, and if its sitll there in about 2 weeks when I can buy, then that'll be what I get for sure, and won't have any break in period to worry about.
If you get a comp flashed and then add mods (say, if you got a flash first, then added bigger TB, high flow cat, etc etc, bolt ons basically) will the computer adapt or do yo need to get it flashed AGAIN? Tryin to decide the order of my engine mods so I know what im doin when the time comes.
Anyone know when the transgo might be out for the 45rfe?
And thanks for the reassurance alex--wouldn't want me drifing over to the rice side would we :D
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MikeD
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6/24/2002
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Sorry bout that Alex...it was such a long post I forgot that you said U raced in Atlanta. What have the temps and humidity been like on your best runs?
~Mike~
'01 R/T
.512/.512 Kammer Cam, MP 2400 Stall, True Duals w/ Flowmaster 40 series, M-1 2bbl, F&B 52mm TB, Airaid, JBA headers, JBA 9mm wires, Kenne Bell Optimizer II, 160 t-stat, 3rd cat removed, Chrome R/T badges
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CW
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6/24/2002
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I don't concider it to be "gospel" It is just the only thing I really have to work with.
2001 4.7HO RC 5sp 3.92 LSD
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alex
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6/25/2002
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Some apologies....
MikeD, i wasn't trying to slam you, and I didn't know about the tranny issue. I just figured form your signature that you should be in the 14.0-13.8 range. And you should, except it's summer in Houston and NO magnum motor will run in heat. Ever. Once you get the shift kit in, and it cools back down (November) you will be crackin' heads (the competition's, not yours).
CW, I realize that some people live about 100 years from a drag strip, so the G-Tech is the only option. That's fine, but other people read the G-Tech numbers and compare them to what people are saying in magazines and other websites, and they want to know why their own truck won't haul ass like that. All I'm saying is that everyone should take G-Tech numbers with a grain of salt.
As for mods vs when to do the computer flash, I think that folks like Leach pretty much have one standard program that they install, and that pretty much covers all the mods. There really isn't a re-flash necessary unless the dealer overwrites the original. Or if you can find someone that will do custom flashes until they get your motor to the ragged edge. But that's pricey.
And as for losing a half to three quarters of a second, hell yeah, it's awful in summer! Here in ATL, we get up to 100+ on Saturday afternoons, and Friday nites it's at least 85 degrees with about 80%-90% humidity. My best runs come on opening day in February when it's like 60 degrees and 25% humidity with the barometer in the 30+ range. The next best time is the final bracket race in November. Bout the same temp & barometer. That's why I always get itchy in mid-February and late October. That's when it's horsepower season!!!!
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Vince
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6/25/2002
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Anyone- I just bought an '02, 4.7, Auto, Quad cab, 4x4. I'm not sure whether I should (and what order) add an Airforce One intake kit, Jet chip (stage 1 OR 2), and Jet Throttle Body Spacer. I have a hard time believing Jet's claim of 20-25 HP just on the chip. I have never heard of Airforce One, and K&N doesn't seem to make a kit yet (looking at their own website). How much work is the TB spacer to install? I'm pretty good with normal mechanics, but I don't have many tools (i.e., torque wrench). Any thoughts would really help me out. Money IS an issue. I never wanted an Automatic, but this one kicks butt.
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Vince
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CW
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6/25/2002
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Wouldn't really recomend the spacer or the jet chip really haven't haerd that much good on them. K&N does offer a intake you just have to e-mail them.
2001 4.7HO RC 5sp 3.92 LSD
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yates-in-DE
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6/26/2002
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Vince,
Tried the Jet Stage 2 on my 02 4.7, removed it and had Kenne Bell reflash my PCM. Now I have a very expensive paper weight on my desk at work.
I've read a lot of the comments and company responses about the Spacer. If ya just want to give money away I will send ya my P.O box #.
As for the intake I would look at the Intense Performance Z-tube, It works very well on my 02.
http://www.intenseperformance.com/products/Stage/stage.html
http://www.affordable-tech.com/dak.htm
Look here and you will see what they look like. And get some Idea how I base my Opinions. there is not an available trac here in Germany for 1/4 times. All I have to go by is how hard the Germans try to out run my Dakota P/U truck in there $80,000. Auto's.
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slider_buck
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6/26/2002
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john925- i have a 99 r/t with a bit of mods done to it. should be a little bit quicker now though, just installed crower 1.7 roller rockers yesterday. i can't get into the 13's with it right now, don't have the traction. i have michelin pilots on it. they don't hook up at all. the only way i got the times i have is by not giving it full throttle till about 20 mph.
alex- i never meant that on my 14.7 sec run i went 97 mph, just that 14.7 seconds was my best time run and that 97 was my best mph run. actually i have gotten a 98 out of it since.
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John925
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6/27/2002
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The G-Tech always registers a higher mph than the track does because of there being no speed trap. It registers the time at the end of the 1/4 instead, thats why its higher.
My best is 15.34 @ 92.6 MPH (gtech)
and 0-60 best 6.54 sec.
the 15.34 was after a 0-60 of 6.89
do you all think if I got the 6.54 on that run I would of got 14.99??
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IntenseDak39
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6/27/2002
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MikeD,
that must be some crappy weather. Up here in Fort Worth, Texas my open diff/3.55 geared/V6 runs 2.2 60 ft times (with nitrous of course). I have heard that one of the best tracks to race at in the nation is the one in Ennis, Texas. It has held the fastest elapsed time/trap speed for awhile now.... or maybe it was just trap speed.
Alex,
I am going to have to completely agree with you on the g-tech subject and the way some people view them. I think most people who have them would be completely suprised if they ran it down a track..... but then again if they have it, why would they need a track? I really dont have a good 1/4 mile time to go by because i have only been fortunate enough to run at a 1/8th mile track and hit a 8.95@77.9mph.... which would compute to a 13.425 in the 1/4 but i want to say more like high 13s.... but then again i am just waking up at the end of the 1/8th mile because i spin one of those slicks half way down the track. But all of that was with a 100 shot of nitrous on my sixer but i have gotten rid of that and just purchased a powerdyne..... it wont be as much power but i would like to see what i can squeeze out of it.
one more thing mikeD,
do you have an aftermarket torque converter. I have heard that the stock unit really kills the RTs after 60 mph. Kris' (5pnt...) hasnt broken into the 9s yet (1/8th mile). Not to rag on kris in anyway but he has a RT with an intake, dual,exhaust,msd ignition,tb,and some others and he was stuck in the 10s even with slicks. Of course now with his new mods he would blast into the 9s. He talked to Bernd and he said that the stock converter was holding him back.... just an idea if you havent replaced it yet.
sorry about the long post..... just some piston envy ;-)
intensedak39
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christian
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12/27/2002
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hey guys can you e-mail me out? I have a jeep grand cherokee 5.2 liter and i like it i have mud tires on it w/4" lift and it still has a lil punch..but i'd rather be smokin the tires...soo it would really help me if somebody wouldn't mind send me the 0-60 of the 5.s liter dakota and the svg. gas mileage thanks sooo much!
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Dak
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12/27/2002
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How much faster would a 03 CC 4.7 be with 392 rear
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Brandon K
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12/27/2002
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Hey alex when you say you run at atlanta dragway do you mean Commerce, GA? When do they open back up from winter? I come down there every so often with my dads cars and my truck. Maybe sometime soon i'll see ya.
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Anthony G
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12/30/2002
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Without a good 60' times, it's going to take much more top end to make up the time than it would having good low end for a good 60' time. Why, because it takes a whole lot more power to push a truck at 100 mph than it does at lower speeds. So with 2.2 60' and still pushing 14.4 is not too shabby. For every .1 off you 60's takes off a good .2 to .3 off your 1/4 times. That's why I tuned my truck to be a 0-60 monster, I'm sure if me and MikeD lined up at 60mph and floored it, he might get the best of me, but in the 1/4 I would take him out of the hole and either keep the lead or finish around the same time depending on traction and reaction. I usually do 14.2 some times 14.1@98
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MidnightMagic
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12/31/2002
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best i ve run with my 00 4.7 cc auto, 3.55 rears, bandpass box trailer hitch, intake and exhaust, was a 15.7@87 in the 1/4, and a 9.9 1/8th with a 60' fo 2.2, that was in maryland dont know the elev. i wonder how much 3.92's will shave off of that
It's Gumbo night every night with all the rice i cook!
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TJ318
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The best ive had was a 15.7@87.5 with a 1992, V8 4x4, Long bed dakota... DT headers and MP Computer, ram air hood, port/polished TB, and a FM muffler.
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.alex.
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1/02/2003
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Yes, Brnadon, I mean Commerce.
It usually opens back up in late February. I'll be the guy in the Amber Fire Club Cab Sport on opening day.
See you there.
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christian86
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1/02/2003
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can someone please fill me in on the dak v8 5spd 0-60 and the r/t 0-60......which one do you think would be more of a good daily driver/drag racer....an auto R/T or a 5spd V8 dakota????
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Shane K
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I have a 93 Dakota with a 5.2 liter it has a holley 670 cfm throttle body on it and a K&N filter charger system. I resently timed 0-60 in 4.4 sec. and a 1/4 mile time of 13.6 I'm still working on the low end proformance which include 1st gear and lower RPMs in 2nd gear.
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