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alex
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6/15/2002
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Koons Ford..... 1-800-665-5870

Killer deals for Matt and me so far.... Try your luck & report back on your price.



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6/16/2002
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Koons Ford?? I'm not sure if you're trying to screw with my head or something, but i'm verry verry gullible. :(



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6/17/2002
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Sorry..... Koons Ford/Dodge/Jeep in falls Church, Virginia. Ask for Eric Slaton.

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6/17/2002
18:09:32

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Pretty good price for that kind of performance gains.



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6/17/2002
18:14:11

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Uh, yeah, 35hp for $300 and 5 hours labor is pretty damn impressive. I doubt you can get even a 35-hp Sneaky Pete kit for $300 from NX........

If the dyno numbers that Bernd posted in the V-8 forum are true, this is a HELL of a deal.



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6/17/2002
18:16:15

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It isn't $300, it is more like $200... even better



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6/17/2002
18:19:36

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I got the HO intake manifold, too. $150 for cams, $150 for intake. That's about $1000 of parts when you start talking aftermarket parts for a Camaro or Mustang...... Hahahahaha!!



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6/17/2002
18:24:07

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Are they willing to ship the parts? Did you have the "special tools" to install?



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6/17/2002
19:38:42

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Cams and intake don't give 35hp. Not in my case anyways.

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6/18/2002
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Koons ships the parts. You will have to come up with the tool yourself. I got the tool from Marty at KRC.

CW- Bernd posted that the cams+intake+computer tweaks = 35 hp. I bet most of it was the computer....



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6/18/2002
09:16:27

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Alex, I'll be able to prove/ disprove it as soon as I get back to the dyno. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks. My gut feeling is less 15 hp +/-.
I would be shocked if it were more than 20 hp.
Even if its only 15, it was still worth the $300.

Matt Y2K-HEMI
'00 RC 4.7L 5spd
14.23 @ 94.49



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6/18/2002
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"Plus computer tweak" But cams and intake were not 35hp. Were they not putting on the heads as well?

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6/18/2002
09:31:18

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CW, I added the "Computer Tweaks" at the same time as the Cams and intake. I orginally had the computer flash 2 years ago and the dealer overwrote it. When I did the cams/intake swap I sent the computer back to Leach for a re-burn.
Prior to this the trucked pulled 216 hp, with a 72mm TB, 180 tstat, gutted cat and Flowmaster exhaust. When I go back to the dyno in a week or two I'll be able to see what I gained with the Computer tweaks, Cams and intake... again, NOT 35 hp, at least I don't believe so.

Matt



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6/18/2002
09:55:01

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CW- I just spent 30 minutes looking for that post and I cant' find it.... I really don't think they were adding the whole HO head.

Matt keep us posted.....

As for 35 hp.... okay. Okay. 15 hp is still pretty good for $300 plus 5 hours labor. When you look at it.



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6/18/2002
10:08:47

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Alex... I hope its 35 ! like I said its still worth the $300. I'm not getting my hopes up, if its more than 15, I'll be VERY excited!

Matt




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6/18/2002
10:48:12

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eeeeeeeeYUP! Me too!



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6/18/2002
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I just heard from Mother Mopar, that your HO intake was in route to you via UPS !!!
You ready to take the plunge Alex ?

:) Matt



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6/18/2002
11:08:40

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Uh three words...

Oh Hell Yeah!

Is your set-up on the way from Ma Mopar as well??



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6/18/2002
11:22:22

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Yea, the HO heads, crankshaft and pistons are on the way.
oh, and the new throw-out bearing!

Matt



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6/18/2002
11:38:41

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How are the HO heads different from stock?



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6/18/2002
11:42:33

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I haven't heard any convincing evidence that the HO heads are any different. But some people claim they are. I bet you could get more results from just cleaning up the bowls in your stock heads..... Bet you can't get HO heads for the money a machine shop will charge you for a good porting job. Or you could do it your own self and really save money.



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6/18/2002
11:45:38

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Matt.....

Hahaha quit messin with these people's minds....

ahahahaa



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6/18/2002
11:51:59

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Dammm it Big "A", you blew me cover mate !!

Ha haa

I'ain't "mod'ing" this thing anymore.... at least thats what I keep telling the wife everytime another Mopar box shows up at the door!!

-Matt



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6/18/2002
12:54:23

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That's what I keep saying. Cams/Intake/Computer, then just stop spending and start driving......

Hey, I gotta start saving for my next venture sometime....



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6/18/2002
16:57:24

Okay I was totally wrong!!!
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I finally found Bernd's original post. I was totally wrong. He did include the heads and there are headers here too, but the hp figure is 58 rwhp!!!! Here:----->>>

HO Cams + HO Heads + HO Intake + Headers + a few small "tweaks" = 58RWHP. Local dealer out here did it on several 4.7L's and they dyno tested them just to see. It works!!

Hmmm...240HP at the crank + (approximately) 70HP at the crank from the HO conversion = 310HP out of the 4.7L. (Hehehehee...5.9's better watch out now.) ;)

<<<<-----

I then posted a few more questions to Bernd and got Jack for a response.



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6/20/2002
16:37:53

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where are you guys getting these killer prices on th ecams and intake ?
best I have fopund so far is $82.50 ea for the cams and $177 for the intake.

HOOK ME UP WITH THE CONNECTION

Thanks



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6/20/2002
17:09:46

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6/20/2002
17:23:05

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has anyone posted solid RWHP numbers for the cams/intake?



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6/20/2002
17:33:28

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KRC Performance posted dyno numbers for just the cams. Matt Barret should have dyno numbers for the "cams & intake" in about two weeks.



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6/20/2002
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I called that # and they told me $96 ea for the cams and $210. for the manifold ?



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