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Hersbird
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11/10/2002
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There is a srt dakota planned with the Hemi but it's more like 2005-6. Just because there may not be a srt dakota until then doesn't mean the current Dakota won't get a hemi sooner. It would just be another option to check on the order sheet. Dodge is not truing to mke the Hemi some high cost super rare option, it's just the replacement for the 360, anywhere there was a 360 before is a canidate for the 5.7 hemi now. The 5.7 has greater production capasity then the 4.7 and costs less to build. It should end up being more common then the 4.7!
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R/TBlues
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11/10/2002
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Well, I just read an article in the latest Motor Trend. I don't believe everything I read, but it does make me worry. It stated that Dodge has a prototype of a new Durango based on the Ram out being test driven right now. They have actual photos of this vehicle in Mexico in full and they have photos of it in the U.S. with the usuall garbage glued all over it to disguise it. They claim that Dodge is building the new Ram based Durango because the Dakota is being down sized in 2004. Diamler-Chrysler also emailed me and assured me that there was no shortage of 5.9L engines and that they would continue to put them in the Dak R/T, Durango, Ram 1500, and Dak Quad Cab through 2003 and beyond. Has anybody else heard anything concerning this? I can't imagine downsizing the Dakota. The fact that it is a "midsize" is what makes it so versital. It will do almost the same work of a half ton and will handle and manuver as good as a compact. I guess I will have to buy a Toyota when and if this downsize takes place.
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Hersbird
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11/10/2002
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Maybe motor trend is confusing the Dakota redesign with the new M-80 compact pickup. There Dakota will not be ready for 2004, the pics would have already been out by now. It was going to be ready for 2004 until they pulled the plugh on keeping the Durango and Dakota platforms together. The new Dakota would have been almost as big as a ram, so in a way they are downsizing form the original plan, but no necessarily from the current size. Personally if they could drop 500 pounds and be back to GenII weight it would be a plus in my book, hell the EPA Nazis would like it too!
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R/TBlues
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11/11/2002
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Well, first of all, I got my magazines mixed up. The article I read is in the December issue of SPORT TRUCK not Motor Trend. Look on page 23 and there it is the 2004 Durango. The article says,"with the next generation Dakota downsizing, the Durango will be distancing itself from the smaller pickup". The 2004 Durango will be built on the Ram platform according to Sport Truck Magazine. That would explain everything. Diamler Chrysler has refused to answer any of my questions concerning the future of the Dakota. The only thing they would tell me is that they would keep manufacturing the 5.9L and they would continue to put it in the R/T. They would not say for how long. With all the different tid bits of information coming from many different sources you can begin to figure out that they may be planning on dropping the MIDSIZE pickup classification. Why would they name a Ram based SUV a Durango if they weren't dropping the midsized SUV? Why would they drop the midsize SUV if they weren't dropping the midsized truck with it? I'm sure we will know the answer to all these questions by June 2003.
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Hersbird
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11/11/2002
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All of the other suurces I have read say nothing about the Durango being Ram based. It is getting its own completely new platform that will be similar in size to the Ram but not Ram based. This is they whole problem of making the Dakota on the new Durango platform, it would be about the same size as the Ram.
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Humberto H
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12/01/2002
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Check out the 2500 Ram supercharged on this website http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stories/schemi/schemi1.html
pretty nice huh.
It has over 500hp.Wait till the 1500 comes out.
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DC Insider
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12/03/2002
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OK, here is the latest info. DC is putting the 5.7 in the Ram 1500 starting in January 2003 due to the 5.9 being a DOG and they know they can get top dollar for it. The 5.7 is also going in the 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the N300 car. As far as the Dakota it may go away or stay the same size but the Durango will upsize in 2004 with the option of the 5.7 by then. DC is also toying with the idea of a small diesel in the Dakota but they are going to place a small diesel in the Jeep Liberty for 2004.
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fdfx
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12/03/2002
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If DC downsizes the dakota, they'd be giving away a perfectly good market... to chevy! Chevy plans on building it's own midsized pickup based on the Trailblazer. they're calling it the "Colarado" and i think that if dodge does decide to go that route, they'll be in a bigger hole than they already are. they'd be stupid to take the dakota out when chevy is putting the colorado in.
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Chris
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12/03/2002
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Would you guys mind taking a spelling class? Geez! Some of you write like you were educated in a barn.
I love the idea of a 5.7 in the Dakota (and would definitely consider purchasing one), but I hope the DC boys work on more competitive engines across the board - more power and efficiency from the 3.7 and 4.7 liter mills. Chevy's big inline six sounds like a great engine: Powerful with good fuel economy. An available turbodiesel on a Dakota (small, not a Cummins) would give Dodge some added versatility against Chevy too.
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R/TBlues
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12/03/2002
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I totaly agree with fdfx! Downsizing the Dakota is the stupidist thing I have ever heard of! Chevy has already anounced it's intentions on building a midsize. Why on earth would DC give this segment of the market up? It wouldn't surprise me if they did just that. The only things DC has done in the last 15 years that I think is intellegent is the Dakota,the 5.9L Cummins, and the Hemi. For almost a decade the Dakota was as usefull as a half ton truck as far as payload and towing capacity. During the 92-94 model years the reg-cab V-8 Dak could be opted with heavy duty suspension and a towing package that allowed it to have a larger payload and towing capacity than the 3/4 ton gas burner Ford. Why has DC allowed GM and Ford to catch up and now surpass Dodge in most areas of the truck segment?
Oh, DC Insider, where exactly are you getting your information? The reason I ask is because my inside connection has assured me that there are no near term intensions on ever putting the 5.7L in anything but the RAM Heavy Duty and possibly the Ram half ton. They could not tell me when or if the Dakota was going to be down sized. They did tell me there would still be a Dakota R/T with a 5.9L as late as 2004. They also said that there would NEVER be a 5.7L in a Dakota.
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sid
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12/04/2002
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I had ordered the dodge 1500 with 5.7 l hemi with alot of accesories on it and it will be here in the end of dec. can't wait. order it now and save because you will get a 2000 dollar rebate till jan 04 03 . chevy and dodge get out of my way because the real Mayor of truckville is coming to town to blow you away .
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sid
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12/04/2002
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i meant to say get out of my way chevy and ford .
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78Red
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12/13/2002
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Not quite in the same boat with the Dakota but maybe I can squeeze my old "smoke stacker" Red into the crowd. Anybody seen any performance specs on the Hemi 1500? Knowing that gearing and wheel size can make a big difference but what kind of "general" times and speed can we bank on from one of these new brethren?
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brianman
Dodge Dakota
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12/22/2002
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yah the mexicans have never stopped building the ramcharger, they dont have to worry about CAFE. the durango will be upsized because they want to fill the gap between the dakota and the ram seeming as there is no full size suv. the dakota is already pretty big if they it made off the same platform as the soon to be made big durango it would be to close to the current ram in size. talk about beating a dead horse. hell i wont complain about a hemi in a small truck.
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sid
Dodge Dakota
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1/03/2003
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I received my dodge 1500 qc yesterday and found out it a very fast truck for being over 5000#. I had the qc 2001 with 5.9 l with duals, jet chip and cold air induction and thought it was fast but it don't even come close to the hemi. Anyone interested in buying the jet chip and cold air induction for 250 $ call me at 712 322 5474 my name is sid I had them on my 5.9 which when traded in had 16000 miles on it , the jet chip is the stage 2 .
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sid
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1/03/2003
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the year of the 5.9 qc was 2001 .
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R/TBlues
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1/03/2003
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Just bought a new 4.7L Reg Cab Dak. I test drove an R/T first. Then I test drove a 4.7L w/3.92 gears. Off the line the R/T felt better, but after 3000RPM the 4.7L feels like it pulls harder. With a little tweaking (posi track, catback exhaust, reprogram ECM, cold air induction, etc.) I think I can out run a stock R/T. This thing really needs posi-trac. With a rolling start at 10mph it lights the right rear effortlessly when you punch it. The one I test drove had posi and it hooked up. They didn't have the color I wanted with a 4.7L and posi-trac.
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sid
Dodge Dakota
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1/04/2003
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I ram my 5.7 l hemi qc ram 1500 with my g-tech pro and it ran 6.9 sec 0-60 which I thought was pretty impressive.
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Brandon K
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1/04/2003
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I have heard in previous years of dodge possibly putting a small 4.0L cummins diesel in a dakota/ durango, maybe those plans are coming around (not neccessarily just for the daks or durangos but for the liberty as well. Boys and Girls, addressing the whole hemi powerplant issue...and the other performance packages offered by chevy and ford. It looks like we have another musclecar or "muscletruck" era coming on. WWWWOOOOOO HHHHHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We's agonna have some fun!!!!!!
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swampdak
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1/04/2003
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Hey Sid sounds like a pretty nice truck. Did you get any kind of a epa mileage sticker telling you the expacted mileage.I thinking about a reg cab shortbox 2 wdrive 1500 c/w hemi but there are no road tests no mileage specs. What is traction like ??? So many questions so few answers?
Y2K CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT K&N 16.35/82.41
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R/TBlues
Dodge Dakota
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1/04/2003
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I noticed my new 4.7L Dak has dual fans (one electric and one clutch). Has anyone removed the clutch fan with no ill side effects? Is this fan controled by a thermostat? Or does it just come on when you run the AC? Has anyone done a before and after run at the track to see if there is any gain in HP? I've only had this truck 36hrs and I already want to start wrenching on it. Lets see, a fiberglass roll pan, fiberglass hood, a lighter wheel and tire package, scrap the clutch fan, cold air intake, 3"exhaust, cam shaft swap, etc. etc... I can't wait!
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black hemi
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1/04/2003
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I received my 1500 reg cab hemi today...the epa mileage said 14/18 but I'm sure that with a set of headers, a k&n filter, and a bed cover that highway should go up to 20
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sid
Dodge Dakota
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1/05/2003
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hey swampdak, this truck is the truck of all trucks , took my g-tech pro and did 0-60 time and it is 6.98 and its not even broken in yet, my sticker is saying 13 city and 17 highway, hope you get one they are the talk of the town , I own the very first one in a four state area which is neb, ia kansas and missouri .
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Hersbird
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1/05/2003
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Well from what I've seen Balck Hemi must have a 2wd and Sid must have a 4wd, thus the difference in EPA mileage. You can see various window stickers for 1500 Hemis by searching for different large dealerships that post inventory on the web from the Dodge website. For each truck on the lot there is usually a link to that trucks specific window sticker. There are quite a few showing up on lots right now, 2wd, 4wd, RC, QC, the works. Still no mater what the options are a 2wd Hemi ram is rated 14/18 and a 4wd Hemi ram is rated 13/17 as far as EPA goes.
Still a 6.98 0-60 for a 4x4 Quad is looking pretty good, did you do a full 1/4 mile run? That would be a better indicator of performance, on a g-tech it should be within .3 or .4 of reality.
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sandman
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1/05/2003
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In Germany the Jeep Grand Cherakee uses Daimlers 2.5 liter turbo V6 diesel. I am sure that it is going to be adapted for the liberty and Dakota for the U.S. market. It only makes sense. Hopefully the Dak will get a 3.0Lor 3.5L version with a bit more boost. I have to admit I would prefer to have a scalled down cummins though. I also think that the 5.7 would be awsome option on the QC Dak.
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Hersbird
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1/05/2003
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Awesome in the Quad, but the best all around sport truck ever in the RC!
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swampdak
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1/05/2003
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Thanks for the info guys.It sounds like they would be about the same as a 5.9 for mileage,I cant help but think that a R.C. 3:92 TRAC-LOC S.B. 5 SPD AUTO 1500, would make a good dependable every day truck, not to expensive, and a MISSLE ON THE DRAG STRIP? It would be pretty wild if they put it in the Dakota,but from what I read I dont think so. But a 4.7 HO would be a nice set up.
Y2K CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT K&N 16.35/82.41
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R/TBlues
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1/05/2003
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Just put my 2nd tank of gas in my 4.7L RC Dak and it got 18.14mpg! I was barely averaging 17 with my 3.9L RC Dak. I didn't baby it either. I kicked it into passing gear at least 10 times, burned a little rubber a couple of times, a few red light runs and about 150 miles of interstate at 80mph for a total of 270 miles and 14.92 gallons of gas.
It only has 500 miles on it. I figure it will be hitting 20mpg by the time it hits 20,000.
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sid
Dodge Dakota
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1/05/2003
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You are right on hersbird it is a 4x4 slt with sports appearance, I wanted to get some mileage on it before I go for the quarter mile, Will let you know or keep you guys updated , all I can say is the 5.7l hemi is awesome. It feels good to know your not going to get blown away by the other trucks like the gmc C-3 which was done to me when I had the 2001 qc 4x4, promise all you dodge hemi fans won't happen to me again .
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sid
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1/06/2003
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okay results are in from my g-tec pre for the 5.7l hemi (first run at 27 degrees is 0to 60 6.24 and quarter mile 14.80 at 96 mph) ( second run 0-60 6.50
and the quarter miler was 14.95 @95) ( third run 0-60 @ 6.35@ 95 and quarter mile in 14.85 at 96 mph.
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