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bugsy
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3/26/2008
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ok so first off my truck is a 1996 dakota 5.2l 318.... since i got the truck its always had a rough idle and some times when im at a red light or backing into a parking spot my truck will die, or if i accelerate fast and then take my foot off the gas then the rpms will drop and then it will die....
And last week my engine light came on and then it started to act up, when ever i accelerate my oil presseure drops to zero and it feels like my truck has no power but yet its still revving up and the rpms arnt moveing either, and when i come to a stop now, when the truck is just about stopped it will drop to like 150-200 rpm for like 4-5 seconds and then it will just jump back up to like 700-800 rpm and the truck jumps forward (almost rear ended some one the first time it happend but now im ready), and when i accelerate it will start to go and then slowly die and then jump back up and then slowly die and then jumb back up ect... so any help and/or edvice would be great thanks
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Bucket
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3/27/2008
09:01:59
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I think i would have to go with Worn out fuel injectors.
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Bucket
GenII
3/27/2008
09:06:28
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or possibly your fuel pump is going out.
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daddio
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3/27/2008
09:55:32
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first thing you should do is read the codes to find out why the CEL is on. try the key trick:
turn the key on/off/on/off/on(on not start) the codes should display in the odometer as Pxxx. when it's finished it will display Pdone. it that doesn't work most parts stores can read them for you for free.
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Kowalski
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3/27/2008
16:25:33
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I believe that is for '00 and up; for a '96 don't you have to count number of times the light blinks for the code numbers ?
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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bugsy
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3/27/2008
16:42:24
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first off i just wanna say that bucket i love your truck and i hope mine will be like it soon lol
today my engine light turned off and it was running fine but when i went to grab so coffees at tims it started to act up again and of course when i looked the engine light was on again (i was so happy when it was off).... thought that info might help abit
and is there a way to check if its my fuel pump or injectors with out replacing them first?
and the 1996 dont have a digital odometere so the key thing dosent work in mine like it dose in my dads 2000 3500. so what are these blinks that you speak of?i dident notcice any blinking when i tried it but i will look again
any thing will help me out im not that good with engines yet but im good with tools and my hands so any advice is good
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daddio
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3/27/2008
16:52:06
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i wasn't sure if it'd work on the '96. the CEL(check engine light) will blink. it should light/go out pause then light again.
it works like this: 2 blinks/pause/5 blinks= code 25. it's just an example but you should get it.
not sure what codes they use but someone on here should know or you could get a Haynes or Chilton repair manual.
when it stops you could check for fuel pressure at the schrader valve on the fuel rail with a gage.
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bugsy
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3/27/2008
17:21:12
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i tried it and noting blinked not even the check engine light it just stayed solid except for when i turned it off of course... so i tried it on my dads truck just to make sure i was doing it right and his showed up as p-none so i no im doing it right but there is still no blinking
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Bucket
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3/27/2008
17:24:32
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Thanks for the props Bugsy !! Let me throw this one out there.....if by some miracle you happen to live in San Diego,I have one of these engine diagnostic code reader things,bring yer truck by and we can scan it, if not then Like Daddio says you gotta get a Haynes manual, it can help alot and you can always refer to it for other things, i always get a Haynes book for all my trucks.
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bugsy
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3/27/2008
17:53:44
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lol i live in canada but thanks alot any ways... i found the code tho and its 33956 dose the dakota have its own hynes manual or is it with the same as 1500-3500... it says my year and the 318 but it dosent say dakota
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bugsy
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3/27/2008
17:58:27
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and also when i just went to start it it wouldent start with out stomping the gas... it turns over but its like its not getting any gas... i guess its time to start looking for a fuel pump
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Bucket
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3/28/2008
10:19:46
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I have the Haynes manual for Dakotas 87 thru 96 and it doesnt have any code numbers so i cant look it up for you but the fuel pump shouldnt be that much but its in the gas tank,unless someone can tell you what that code is,or find that website online that posts all the dodge and chrysler trouble codes,then fuel pump would be a logical start.
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ToddSails
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3/28/2008
11:04:38
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Auto parts stores should be able to read your codes for you, for free, and then give you a print out as to what the codes are, solutions, etc.
Works for our '96 mazda Protege.
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Walt_Felix
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3/28/2008
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All cars and light trucks built and sold in the United States after January 1, 1996 were required to be OBD II equipped. In general, this means all 1996 model year cars and light trucks are compliant, even if built in late 1995. Just different processes to pull the codes but they will all respond to a scan tool. Most of your larger chain autoparts stores will scan your vehicle for you if you ask.
On a 1996 Dakota, you should be able to pull basic 2-digit codes by cycling the key 3 times without starting the truck. on/off/on/off/on(on not start). The Check engine light will come on and stay solid for several seconds while it prepares the code test. Then it will start to flash and cycle through the codes twice. There is a code decoder on the DML website. http://www.dakota-truck.net/CODES/codes.html
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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3/28/2008
17:46:25
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You just couldn't stay away could you?
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Kowalski
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3/29/2008
06:45:47
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Looks like the amsoil spammer has switched to focus on spoofing Texas Todd - the above post is obviously not from him.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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bugsy
Dodge Dakota
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3/29/2008
11:57:37
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hey thanks every one and i found the codes and took them to alldata and got all the info. there where 3 codes dont remeber them off the top of my head but one was saying i diconnected my battery, the other one was my o2 sensors which i have to replay and the 3rd one was my 3-4 shift soliniod...i brought my truck over to my macanic and he also said it could still be the fuel pump... hes a good guys and hes a familly friend so he is not just trying to rip me off but we can still here it power up when i turn the ignition on
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daddio
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3/29/2008
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if he is a freind he should check the fuel pressure according to the FSM before he changes the pump.
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ToddSails
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3/30/2008
11:09:35
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I would go ahead and just change the fuel pump. Just throw parts at it until you get it.
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bugsy
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3/30/2008
14:37:50
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if i could afford to get all new parts then i would lol but im only 18 working part time school full time so moneys tight
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ToddSails
Dodge Dakota
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3/30/2008
15:32:38
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Well maybe it is time for a second job. Quit whining and just get a second job. That is the problem with you young punks, none of you want to work. It is always mommy give me money for this and that. It is time to grow up and get a set of balls and earn something for yourself. Probably will never happen as most of you kids are dirt bags that will never amount to much anyway.
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