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jpconard
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10/02/2007
13:28:56
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Time for another set of pads and rotors.
Like many of you, I'm now at 150,000 and through several sets of rotors/pads, still on original rear drums (have visually inspected and plenty of shoe left).
I've also gone the cheapest route at Autozone (cheapest semi-metallic and rotor) for previous changes.
I'm thinking of either the carbon metallic pads or the ceramic. The only other rotor is a 2yr. warantee for about $10 more each. I don't want to go to a very expensive slotted/drilled rotor.
What is anyone's experience with the Carbon metallic versus semi-metallic, as well as Ceramic versus both as well?
I'm not really worried about brake dust as the past pads have pretty much ruined my rims, but less visible dust is a nice benefit.
I'm more asking about cost versus better performance (less likely to warp rotors, etc.)
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1hotkadota
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2007
15:22:26
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There is a set of new rotors and titanium brake pads on e-bay for $65 plus $26 shipping. Seems like a good deal for what you get.
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.boB
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2007
23:26:05
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Ceramic is a kinda new material. It does have it's advantages. It also has some disadvantages.
First, don't assume that all ceramic pads are the same; they're not. Some are built for heavy duty use, most are not. Many of them are not recommended for towing. AFAIK, Hawk is the only company making a performance ceramic pad.
I've used Performance Friction carbon fiber pads on a few trucks over the years. They work well (better than stock), don't produce much dust, and they're quite if you take the time to install them correctly.
This time I decided to try Hawk SUV/light truck pads. They're more expensive than carbon fiber. But they don't seem to perform any better. Oh well, it was worth a try. I wouldn't buy them again.
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searay245se
Dodge Dakota
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10/03/2007
06:51:35
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i myself have run autozone pads(not the super cheapys)for along time now and i keep an eye on em and change em out before they get to tear up the rotors which is nice cause there lifetime warranty i think they call em duralast golds there alittle more then the cheapys but hey on my intrpid ive been through 3 sets on it so far over 7 years and only paid for the first set and i think they stop better then the average pad but it might just be me..just put em on my dak when i bought it a month ago and they stop great
jeff seay245se
99 dak slt cc 3.9 auto 4x4 60k
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1hotkadota
Dodge Dakota
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10/03/2007
12:04:49
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hey .boB,
What do you think about the titanium pads?
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.boB
Dodge Dakota
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10/03/2007
12:16:31
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Titanium does have some advantages over other materials, even ceramic. I think the big advantage is their ability to transfer heat, keeping rotor temps down. If you really abuse your brakes, that could be a good thing.
But I think titanium pads are a lot like other materials. Obviously they are not a solid block of titanium. They can be formulated in differant ways, to perform differantly. For general use, I'm not sure there's any real advantage to them; other than increased longevity. Installed properly they will be quiet, perform well, and last a long time.
I havn't seen the performance aftermarket making them yet.
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jpconard
Dodge Dakota
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10/03/2007
13:28:40
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The rotors I've been getting at Autozone wear out at basically the same rate as the Pads. So every time a brake change requires both.
O'reillys offer lifetime rotors, Autozone does not, but they run around $50 each, versus $27.
I don't really understand why these places offer lifetime on rotors and pads, they will wear out regardless of quality, that is what they are supposed to do.
I did that at the old Western Auto (before Advance bought them), kept taking back the old pads and getting new ones.
At 150,000 miles though, not sure if going cheap (roughly $90 for all) versus lifetime (over $200 for all) makes more sense.
I'd pay the extra I guess, if I don't have to ever deal with warped rotors again. But would they cover that on warrantee?
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