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jpconard
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2007
20:37:14
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ATF+4 is now available at Wal-Mart in their cheap brand for $2 something a quart and the Mopar brand at $5 a quart.
Apparently the patent ran out or Chrysler made a deal with Wal-Mart.
They also now sell Mopar oil filters for $5 something.
Does anybody know if it will hurt if ATF+4 and ATF+3 are mixed?
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Jim
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2007
21:33:52
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I saw that ATF4 at Walmart also. I wonder how much money DC made on that deal. It was impossible to get it except at the stealers for $7 a quart. Don't mix ATF3 and ATF4.
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jpconard
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2007
22:09:07
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So when I go to change my filters and fluid this summer I should continue to use ATF+3? I read the bottle on the ATF+4 and didn't see any such warnings.
I don't flush the converter, so there would still be a fair amount of ATF+3 in the tranny.
Even when the pros do it, there would still be some left over ATF+3 that would mix with the +4.
Yes, I haven't seen anybody else selling the +4 yet, so maybe it was not the patent running out but a special marketing deal.
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GraphiteDak
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2/21/2007
23:35:03
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From what I know, ATF+4 supercedes ATF+3 and I believe they said you COULD mix. But I'd still try to drain as much of the old first.
I think ATF+3 will be discontinued.
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Markus
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2007
23:42:05
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It's perfectly OK to mix ATF+3 and ATF+4 under the following circumstance: your transmission originally came with ATF+3. Drain and fill with ATF+4.
However, If your transmission originally came with ATF+4, you must only use ATF+4 fluid.
And never, never let anyone try to convince you that Dexron/Mercon is OK to use in your traqnsmission. It is not.
If you took your truck to Dodge for the fluid service, they would put ATF+4 in.
Spend some time here:
http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html
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crow318
Dodge Dakota
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2/22/2007
09:10:53
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I get all of my oil at walmart. It is name brand, and to this day, I can't find it anywhere for less. I can get the 5 quart mobil 1 for $21.00.
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jpconard
Dodge Dakota
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2/27/2007
20:57:13
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Thanks for the good advice. Like the poster above mentioned, I didn't see the ATF+3 on the shelf so maybe it will be discontinued.
Mine did come with ATF+3 and the manual (2000) said ATF+3, which I've done a couple or three times already. I'll go with the ATF+4 this time.
It is probably worth the $5 something for the Mopar versus the $2 something for the Wal-Mart SuperTech? Or if done every 25,000 the Supertech may be good enough?
Now I can service the Stratus this summer without going to the dealer to get it. Has anyone dealt with a 2.7L Stratus tranny? Does it have 2 filters also or just one? I know this is not the place to ask, but lots of experts here, someone probably also owns a Stratus.
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Kowalski
GenIII
2/28/2007
07:36:41
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Can't help you with the 2.7, but I think earlier '00 owner's manuals specifying +3 for the first year of the 4.7 may be in error. I bought my '00 late in the year, and my manual calls for +4; and all other sources seem to call for +4 for the 45RFE.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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fotodak
Dodge Dakota
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2/28/2007
11:14:56
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Picked up a qt of Valvoline Synthetic +4 at Advance Auto the other day.
About $4.50/qt.
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eddy
Dodge Dakota
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3/03/2007
10:56:57
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Actually... Mopar would still only sell it through dealers if they could but outside suppliers took legal action to get them to release the formula to the aftermarket.
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