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mikesz
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11/24/2006
14:18:45

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I'm about to buy H.O.cams for my '04 4,7 Dak
Found them on buymopar.com.there is only one problem:They say it will not improve 2003 and 2004.Does anyone have any experience.Do not want to spend several hundreds for nothing.

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11/24/2006
14:39:35

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Didn't read the article, but we've had this discussion here some time ago - if you reread it, I don't think that's exactly what they say, although it might mistakenly leave someone with that impression. If you post a clickable link to what you mean, I'll check it again.

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11/24/2006
15:03:13

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Kowalski
It is even not an article.They just sell Mopar parts
and say "it will not improve 2003+"I was also trying to search in archive,but can't get thru the passwords.I'm using my son's comp. and my notebook with all the passwords is with him in hospital for several more days.

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11/24/2006
15:14:08

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Kowalski
I wish to make to a clickable link, but I don't know how to do it.It is just: buymopar.com/store/magnum.html

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11/24/2006
18:37:18

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They might be referring to the HO intake, which came standard on the 2003-up Dak 4.7.



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11/24/2006
23:58:33

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Interesting price on that Intake Air Temp sensor.
My local Dodge Parts guy wants almost $50 for one.



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11/25/2006
00:24:09

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Glad you posted that I was thinking of purchasing them for my dak.It says it plain as day.They would of specified if they ment just the intake.Thank yo GOOD HEADS UP.



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11/25/2006
02:20:43

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Looks like the next best thing is the 206 cams.LITTLE MORE PRICY.Went from 299bucks to 699bucks eeeewwwwwwwww!http://www3.jjc.edu/FL05/ghedlin/cams.html



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11/25/2006
07:54:26

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When this has been reported in the past, we've found it was more of a reference to the HO manifold as 01Motorsport points out. "It will not improve '03 +" is to narrow a reference and can easily be taken out of context. In '03, they came up with a compromise design intake manifold that is used on both the regular and HO 4.7's. Before that, there were 2 distinctly different manifolds for the regular and HO 4.7. This is what we've found that has been a reference too in the past - you're not the first to be misled by it.

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11/25/2006
21:22:22

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mikesz: Don't overlook the HO cams mod. It is one of the best mods for a 4.7, for sure.



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11/25/2006
23:01:17

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Unless your name is Bash, and you got a '04.



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11/26/2006
02:17:51

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So,now everything is clear.
Three mods are coming:H.O.cams ,shift kit,4,10 gears at the end(very pricy-two axles)Finally I quit thinking of C.A.I. and exhaust.I,m not a racer but daily driver.
Was drilling through the archives and found that cams cost double than 2-3 years ago.Pity.

mikesz

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11/26/2006
17:09:57

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mikesz. I just put on 32" tires, 265/75-16, but have 3.55 gears, and I'm shopping around for some 4.10 replacements. Where did you find your 4.10 gears?



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11/27/2006
13:55:43

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Steve J
I will answer You tomorrow when my notebook comes back with my son.I have adresses there.

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11/27/2006
20:29:12

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I sent an email to the contact link at BuyMopar.com and the answer I got was "03 non HO an up parts have been improved, you will not get that much of a increase in power."
So, it sounds like they're claiming that the '03 and up standard 4.7 engine was improved therefore, installing these cams won't get you as much gains as if you had an '02 or earlier 4.7 engine?



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11/27/2006
20:56:45

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THAT explains why my BUTT dyno didn't feel what other's butt dyno's did going to the H.O. Cams in my 2003!

I kinda wondered. When I used my micrometer (simple side one that is) I could tell no difference from the stock cams to the HO but assume some of the change would be in the cam timing itself which I could not measure.


I remember a guy on here doing the 206 cams without doing the "recommended' valve springs and reporting NO valve float and a noticable inclrease from those cams.
KRC claims the 206 cams are a noticable jump over the H.O. cams. Having 4.56 gars, I am tempted to go 206 or 212's some day.





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11/28/2006
00:12:34

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lmfao Graphite.



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11/28/2006
00:15:48

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lmfao Graphite.Upu gonna pay for those 206 700 Bones.Cant amagine the 216s



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11/28/2006
07:14:01

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Aren't the HO cams the same lift with more duration ? If you just check the height of the lobes, you won't see that.



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11/28/2006
07:16:33

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Aren't the HO cams the same lift with more duration ? If you just check the height of the lobes, you won't see that.



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11/28/2006
11:26:07

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So,what makes H.O. engine different?
If air intake is the same,cams are the same,what has left?Springs only?different material of crankshaft?Do not think,it is possible to achieve 30hp difference.Hopefully there is real Dodge technician between us to answer this question.They can usually get internal info.

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