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WASHINGTON - Counties in 31 states are flunking air-quality standards, drawing a federal warning to clean up industrial plants, put new restrictions on cars and take other action to make their air less polluted.
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Nearly 500 counties, mostly in California and the eastern third of the country, were cited Thursday as having too much smog-causing pollution in violation of the federal clean air law.
The Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites) told state and local officials to develop new pollution controls to reduce ground-level ozone, a precursor of smog. Some 159 million people, more than half the U.S. population, live in areas singled out by the government for contributing to unhealthy air.
Acting under court order, the EPA identified all or parts of 474 counties that either have air that is too dirty or have pollution that causes neighboring counties to fail the air quality test.
Despite having some of the toughest air pollution requirements, California still has the worst air, the EPA said.
The Los Angeles basin was designated as having severe air pollution, the only one in the category. The area has until 2021 to come into compliance with the federal standard.
Three California regions — Riverside County, San Joaquin Valley and Sacramento — were listed with serious pollution, the fourth-worst designation, and given until 2013 to curtail the pollution.
Other areas with marginal or moderate pollution problems have until either 2007 to 2010 to comply. Areas that continue to violate the standard could lose federal highway dollars.
Those areas include a ring of Great Lakes states and a concentration
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4/16/2004
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Where oh where is Bob ?
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Jeff
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4/16/2004
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woohoo! the Coachella Valley in Riverside County, CA is where I live. Flunkerooni!
hehe.
Palm Springs, Indian Wells, Palm Desert, Rancho Mirage, Indio, etc. some of the best golfing in the world, yet apparantly the worst air quality.
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4/16/2004
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Maybe the government should stop worrying about how much pollutants are put into the air and start creating machines that turn that smog into gasoline. lol
Josh
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Mark green 92
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4/17/2004
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Did anyone find it odd that after 34+ years of pollution controls on cars and light trucks, and now with different formula fuels, L.A. still has the dirtiest air in the nation?
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4/20/2004
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Come on BOB , CLEAN it UP..............
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4/20/2004
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Bob ?
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Bob Lincoln
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4/20/2004
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"Did anyone find it odd that after 34+ years of pollution controls on cars and light trucks, and now with different formula fuels, L.A. still has the dirtiest air in the nation?"
You should not find it unusual. There are nearly twice as many cars there now, and with the mountains blocking the pollution in (as happens in Denver and in Phoenix), the smog doesn't get swept away as much by prevailing winds. It would be far worse without recent developments in technology. Of course, once you remove those, you see the inevitable results, such as skyrocketing cases of childhood asthma.
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Mark green 92
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4/21/2004
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Ok here’s my thoughts. Somewhere I read that today’s vehicles emit 1/10 the pollution of the vehicles built before emission controls.(I’m sorry I don’t have a link for that quote) Now taking in the natural rate of attrition of older vehicles and the fact that the number of cars has doubled, the air should only be 30-35% as dirty as it was in1969. I recognize that the mountains block some of the winds that normally circulate air and that the pollution would stick around, but the clouds still move overhead and there is no glass dome over CA. The point I’m getting at is the auto industry has constantly adjusted, if by law to produce less pollution. I really believe if anyone is serious about cleaner air it might be time to look at the people with lobbyists who have not done as much, or anything at all. For example pollution credits for removing older vehicles from the road (Unocal) to avoid cleaning up your own emissions, how pathetic. I’d believe that if you got every gas powered car and truck off the road in California and substituted electrics you would still have a pollution problem. Lastly, if you’re child suffers from asthma you can always move, I would, the state has 15 years to be compliant.
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4/21/2004
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Damn, why are they getting 18 years to comply? Then what if they don't? 10 years in court fighting over it?
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Jeff
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4/21/2004
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thanks to nafta all the trucks in mexico can drive into california with no smog requirements like the rest of us here.
screw them and their dirty trucks, cheap labor, and law-breaking borderjumpers.
and screw nafta too.
(don't call me a racist, call me a nationalist)
Jeff
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Bob Lincoln
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"Somewhere I read that today’s vehicles emit 1/10 the pollution of the vehicles built before emission controls.(I’m sorry I don’t have a link for that quote)" I wish you did. While that may be true of HC, NOx and CO2 emissions are nowhere near that much lower.
"the air should only be 30-35% as dirty as it was in1969" That would be true if nothing else has changed. However, many more power plants have been built since then, and just think about how many companies in Silicon Valley (almost none of which existed in the 1960s) have emissions stacks with VOCs going right out. Think also of how many homes have been built which burn fossil fuels.
"I recognize that the mountains block some of the winds that normally circulate air and that the pollution would stick around, but the clouds still move overhead and there is no glass dome over CA." Those clouds are much higher altitude, the pollution is far lower and IS still trapped, so it IS like having a glass dome, with the clouds outside it moving.
"if you’re child suffers from asthma you can always move" First of all, good luck if you're not rich, you propose changing jobs and uprooting, leaving family behind all because you were essentially assaulted. Moreover, "too late", because the pollution caused the asthma, which then stays with you for life. Moving will not get rid of it, the damage is done.
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Why don't you get a tune-up Bob ..
Your vehicle is emitting Black Smoke...
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Bob Lincoln
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I'll admit it guy's, I am gay!
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Bob Lincoln
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You should learn proper grammar when you try to impersonate someone. It gives you away immediately.
You might learn a thing or two about cars if you go to allpar.com. But they won't let you post insults, so you'll have nothing to say, since you seem to have no automotive knowledge to share.
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Bob Lincoln
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I just called Chrysler's tech hotline, and they told me I was wrong. The EGR does nothing on the Dakotas. I would will not say I am sorry because I still think I know more than the Chrysler. I am also a pussy, I am afriad if I purchase a membership or post my e-mail, someone will find out where/who I am! Please don't hurt me. Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
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Bob Lincoln
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The biggest pussy is someone who hides behind a phony name instead of having the balls to post their real name. The biggest idiot is the guy who is paying for a membership to flame people, and still knows nothing about cars. Congratulations! You're both!
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