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IntenseDak39
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2/13/2002
20:10:43
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got the TB in.....had a couple of tries before i got the truck started (ask bernd he knows why!oops). i could feel the difference in the TB..awesome...give whiplash off of idle starts...
got to the dyno and there was a WS6 there that dynoed just under 600Hp at the wheels (d@mn)...they loaded my truck up and began with the first run (no NO2)....my truck hit 139 at the wheels.....i was like "what? i don't think so!"...they ran it again and hit 152...i was getting mad! Third run they hit the juice....198 hp....."WHAT?" a nitrous express 75 shot is suppose to add 75 to the rear wheels. charged me my $60 (money well spent, yeah right) and left....gave Bernd a ring-a-ding-ding....
apparently they did not set the dyno for my v-sixer.....crap heads!
Bernd said my truck should be in the area of 200 HP at the wheels with out the juice....
that's what i thought because 198hp doesn't get a 3700 lb truck down the 1/8th in 9.8 seconds.
soooooo, feb 22 i am going down to Austin and play with bernd....hopefully run some quarters and do a dyno.
my sad story,
IntenseDak39
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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BigHank
GenIII
2/13/2002
20:28:46
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Sorry to hear about the bad deal--at least your Dak is running strong!
MoPar to Ya!!!
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/13/2002
20:55:49
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yeah man, that place sucked! never going there again!
you wouldn't believe what that TB can do!
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dodgeboy
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2002
21:22:56
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woah...200hp at the wheels with out n20?? what do you have done?
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Lesley
GenIII
2/13/2002
21:43:23
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Ah well, chalk it up to experience, at least you get to play with Bernd..uh, you know what I mean.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
19 lb.FMS fuel injectors. Coming 17" Boyd Coddington Smoothies
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Dodge MiCK
GenIII
2/13/2002
22:56:45
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I can probably get 200hp if I threw my truck off a steep cliff!?!?
01 Sport 4x2 RC 3.9 3.55
Mods - IAT Adjuster, 3923's, 35% tint, Ractive CAI
Near Future Mods - 180 T'Stat, Clear Corners, TPS @ .75V
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Tom Slick
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2002
23:13:05
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Intense, what dyno shop did you take it to?
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DakMatt
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2002
23:18:31
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Intense, what TB are you referring to?? The v8 swap or the Fastman or Flometrics??
- Matt
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bernd
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2/14/2002
00:01:18
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With the proper mods...the 200HP (crank) isn't hard to obtain. With TB, Intake, Headers, 1.7:1 Rollers, t'stat, ignition, IAT mod, underdrive pulley (crank), and an electric fan conversion it's not hard to hit 200HP (crank) at all.
The magic number for the V6 is 200HP though...anything higher than that and you'll need cam, heads, nitrous, supercharger, or a combination of any of those to get above 200HP (crank).
Greg, I went through my old dyno sheets and I was mistaken...the 190RWHP was with a 50HP shot of nitrous and the 1.6:1 rollers (and the other basic stuff I talked with you about).
However, I still think they messed up on the dyno runs as the V6 needs to be set on a 720 crank rotation on the dyno settings. You'll also need the dual pickups for an accurate reading. With the 75HP shot, you should have been right about 220RWHP. When you come down during the weekend of the 22nd, i'll see if we can't dyno the truck again...i'll run the dyno as well.
DodgeMick: Nah...no cliffs needed. I hit 270RWHP several weeks ago. ;)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Dodge MiCK
GenIII
2/14/2002
00:09:56
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I would be lucky, with these mods (present and near future), if I could run 150rwhp.
01 Sport 4x2 RC 3.9 3.55
Mods - IAT Adjuster, 3923's, 35% tint, Ractive CAI
Near Future Mods - 180 T'Stat, Clear Corners, TPS @ .75V
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kota on 20s
GenIII
2/14/2002
01:30:36
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how did they not set the dyno? dont you just put your car or truck on it and make pulls? what differance does it make if you have a 800hp V8, or a 115hp 4-banger? the dyno dosent know the differance between engines?...does it?
Eric
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dodgeboy
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2002
08:02:39
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ah ok 200 at the crank..that seems obtainable. I'm looking for 200 at the wheels and I have way more money into it
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Lesley
GenIII
2/14/2002
08:08:18
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I'm curious as to what mine would do, but up here, it costs over $100 to dyno it. I'll have to bite the bullet and go for it one of these days.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
19 lb.FMS fuel injectors. Coming 17" Boyd Coddington Smoothies
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Graphite
DakotaEnthusiast
2/14/2002
08:16:21
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Which truck Lesley? your black one or the one you are building for your nephew? LOL
joe
2002 club cab 4x4 Graphite /silver
2002 quad cab 4x2 Atlantic blue/silver
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Lesley
GenIII
2/14/2002
08:26:20
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LOL! I'll post some pics when we are done. You'll be needing one of those soon :)
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
19 lb.FMS fuel injectors. Coming 17" Boyd Coddington Smoothies
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/14/2002
08:26:49
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kota,
the dyno reads all sorts of things.....they hook up wires all over the place....don't just strap it on and run.....they never changed the dyno settings from the WS6 before me and i will post the dyno results becuase you can tell they don't look right....there is no curve and it is as bumpy as h*ll!
BTW, the 152 with out juice would convert to 186 at the fly and that would be 11 more than stock... that was my first clue something was wrong...
Tom,
i went to speedworks in lewisville....my dad works with the owner's (Dan) father (Larry).
Dakmatt,
i am using Bernd's custom TB he use to use before he had his s/c.....once again..thanks bernd!
dodgeboy,
custom TB
mopar cold air kit
k&n
msd 6a ignition
msd 8.5 wires
msd blaster II coil
jet stage II module
1.7 roller rockers
jba headers
flowmaster 40 series dumped
autolite 3923s (finally on)
borg warner rotor and cap
electric fan (finally got it on,too)
i think there's more.....i always have to go out to my truck to remember.
future mods:
y pipe
cat
head work
plenum divider in intake manifold
relocate NO2 nozzle
100 jetting
dodgemick,
off the cliff only brings 199.7 Hp...sorry
lesley,
why don't you come down and play with the boths of us....uhh..you know what i mean! ;)
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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kota on 20s
GenIII
2/14/2002
10:10:23
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i know the dyno takes readings from your truck, buy what settings do they have to change on the dyno between car changes?
the only thing i can think of is making the tencion on the rollers lighter for your truck.
Eric
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bernd
*GenIII*
2/14/2002
10:10:39
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Kota: There's the load calibration, crank rotation offset, number of cylinders, type of engine (rotary, two-stroke, four-stroke), and then having the rear wheels set properly on the dyno drums (big wheels).
"there is no curve and it is as bumpy as h*ll!" Definitely sounds like it wasn't set properly for your engine. Email me the dyno file...(DYNOxxxx.001 or whatever they named it). I can read them.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Tom Slick
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2002
10:17:03
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I'm familiar with Speedworks up in Lewisville...
dynoed my truck there before...
They are more familiar with V-8's than anything else...
What part of the DFW area are you from? I'm down in Lancaster(for now!)...
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/14/2002
10:23:46
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i live up in Roanoke right now, but moving to North Richland Hills in April. closer to mommy and daddy, hopefully they will let me move back home so i can go buy a hemi for my truck...."I Got A Hemi!"
intensedak39
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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dodgeboy
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2002
10:46:50
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Your truck looks pretty sweet intense dak..its time fore a little port work and a suregrip.
Heres my mods that will be in place for the dyno. I'm hoping for 200 at the wheels.
1993 v6 block
crank turned 010 under and mirror polished
Comp 200/206 504/512 cam
Mopar 1.6roller rockers
mopar performance roller lifters
KRC performance ported/polished heads
r/t valve springs
chrome molly retainers/keepers
Elebrock double roller chain
ported intake manifold, shortened plenum divider
Fastman throttle body(soon to be flowmetris 48mm)
1993 H.O. exhaust manifolds and Y pipe
flowmaster 3in exhaust
catco high flow cat
centerforce dual friction clutch
all synthetic lubes
14x3 k&n filter
MSD 6a ignition
blaster ss coil
MSD 8.5mm wires
MSD timing retard box
Stant 180deg t-stat
IAT box
Also hope to have a mike leach flashed pcm and a 3.91 suregrip out back
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/14/2002
11:22:37
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all sounds good...i dont know if i really want to get into the block....maybe....
have you run your truck yet,1/4 or 1/8?
i definitly need new gears and a posi of some sort.
?...where did you get that y pipe and what are it's specs?
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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dodgeboy
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2002
11:44:46
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well my 93 with just bolt ons ran low 15's in the 1/4. I havent run the 96 yet because I'm still waiting on the heads from KRC..been there since july. The y pipe is off a 93 dakota...the 92 and 93 v6's had much better flowing manifolds and y pipes..see if you can find one at a junk yard
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dodgeboy
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2002
11:57:29
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well my 93 with just bolt ons ran low 15's in the 1/4. I havent run the 96 yet because I'm still waiting on the heads from KRC..been there since july. The y pipe is off a 93 dakota...the 92 and 93 v6's had much better flowing manifolds and y pipes..see if you can find one at a junk yard
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/14/2002
12:33:21
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bernd,
i uploaded one under my profile. this run is with out NO2....notice almost no curve to it...it doesnt show the rpm's but it starts somewhere around 3000 rpm..... nice to see the striaght torque curve but there is no way that is acurate..
after you respond to this i will upload the other run..
sorry,tried to send you pics of it but i am a novice at this.
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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