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Jim
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2/22/2004
23:11:44
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Does Amsoil have teflon in it? How is it outperforming Mobil 1 synthetic?
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J and J Auto
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2/22/2004
23:45:59
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No teflon just true sythetic
if you look at comparisons mobile 1 is 1 step
under Amsoil and either is a very good choice
Larry
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2/23/2004
06:48:46
|  Amsoil -- Question about PTFE - aka Teflon
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Amsoil DOES NOT contain PTFE (Teflon).
PTFE is bad. Basically marketed as Teflon ... and they piggyback off the fact that everyone has seen the "egg slip off the frying pan" commercial on TV. Dupont owns the Teflon technology and they even state that Teflon is not good for an internal combustion engine. There were a lot of FTC lawsuits ... and settlements ... regarding the use of Teflon in aftermarket additives.
You see PTFE marketed in Slick 50 and TufOil.
There is simply no need for any of those snakeoil type additives. Choose a good oil with a good antiwear package. If you want protection from metal to metal contact on a cold start, choose a quality synthetic oil.
There is more to an oil than the sum of its parts which show up in a typical UOA/VOA (Used Oil Analysis/Virgin Oil Analysis). That's why some additives backfire. There is an optimal amount of moly/boron/zinc/phosphorous/calcium, etc ... and the type/form/percentage of each is critical to it's optimum performance.
PTFE has been shown to cause pitting of the yellow metals. Do you want to risk bearing failure? This is one thing that Briggs and Straton found when they did their test on PTFE. It showed that the machine running the PTFE had actually pitted the yellow metals where the other machine that ran with standard oil showed no such evidence.
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Teflon is for frying pans, not engines.
Here are other reasons not to use it:
Teflon (PTFE), as it is offered in an additive is a member of the family of "solid, held in suspension" lubricant particles. It is effective as a "sliding friction lubrication" if you can get the PTFE to adhere to the point of contact. Repeat ... PTFE is bad.
IF the "particles held in suspension" are not machined small enough they have an affinity to "stack or pool" at oil journal entry points and block off up to 50% of the lower area of the journal, disrupting oil flow rate and causing localized heating. This can starve a critical area of lubrication and because of localized heating create a temprorary increase in performance (thinner oil sheared or thinned by heat) until the oil starved component is destroyed.
The solids also have an affinity af resting in the oil pan/sump and collecting and holding sludge precursers that eventually collect into full blown black sludge creating more problems.
Why do some users of aftermarket additives offer good reports, or praise the product? Because most aftermarket additives prohibit sound because of their density, then you think (falsely, as in placebo) that the engine is running more smoothly. It simply masks the problem.
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To continue ...
Teflon (PTFE) was never designed to be an engine lubricant, and can actually clog oil passages. As I stated earlier, Dupont (owner of the Teflon technology) was quoted as stating that Teflon was not for engine lubrication).
I guess that when people see eggs "slipping" off the frying pan ... and then see Teflon on the oil/additive label ... think that Teflon in the mixture can only help an oil be more "slippery".
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I hope this answers your question.
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