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massivedak
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2004
13:44:36
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im about to spend my income taxes im debating between a throttle bodie and headers or a electric fan
any info such as install prices and home install difficulty would be awesome
2002 rc 5sp
K&n home brew intake,msd ingnition/wires,brass cap&rotor,flowmaster 40 series,lakewood traction bars.
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check it
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2004
16:32:13
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i would go throttle body and efan and pulleys. for 300+ the headers dont do much at all
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another mark
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2004
18:27:34
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How about a throttle body and after market muffler?
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SuperChips
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2004
19:06:44
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massivedik
Get a SuperChips Controller U will be very happy
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another mark
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2004
19:53:11
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So many toys. I got a nice refund this year too, can't wait to start blowing it on go fast goodies.
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J and J Auto
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2/04/2004
00:17:04
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Go with a fastman or F&B throttle body they are
a nice upgrade
Install time maybe 20 min
You will see some gains from headers with a bigger
throttle body.
They are just a bolt in manifold replacement easy
unless you break studes removing the cast iron
units, bolts right to stock exh.
Larry
J&J Auto
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v8 tb
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2004
02:55:56
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go with the v8 tb over the fast man. 300 compaired to 60. and the hp diffrence is not even noticiable. mark hes got a flowmaster.. i got it! get some 1.7 rr and the v8 tb pulleys and efan should run u no more then 400
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gen1dak
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2/04/2004
08:31:54
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Headers don't do much??? I'll have to get back to this one when I'm not laughing so hard.
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hey
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2004
11:52:15
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gen 1 the headers really dont do much! why do u think people save that for the last go fast mod? because 350 is way to much to spend if ur only goin to gain like 3 hp if ur lucky
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Type S
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2004
20:58:45
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Do the S-Bolt mod first.
It will toss you back in your seat when you hit the gas.
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GB2000
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2/04/2004
22:47:03
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lmao... definitely do the s-bolt mod. What's that good for? Something like 30 rwhp? =)
Josh
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loblkdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2004
22:50:09
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whats the S-Bolt??
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GB2000
GenIII
2/04/2004
23:13:45
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http://www.dakota-durango.com/performancetips.html - Scroll down to Performance: Install an S-Bolt. It says it's good for 5hp, but I find that hard to believe (More like 30! lmao... j/k).
Josh
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massivedak
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2004
16:10:24
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im going to get a fastman or f&b for sure the only debate on that is hp vs price
i want some pullies but i cant find em for 2002
i think ill get the fan, f&b, and hollow out or replace the big cat
thanks for the advice
what is the install cost or difficulty of a electric fan
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Neo
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2/05/2004
19:12:10
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better leave that "S" bolt thing off, one dude here tighten his down to tight and cracked his TB and did see it, days later his engine tried to ingest a piece of TB needless to say it didn't get past the valves.....Can You Say Crunch ^(&*)*&%$@#$$#&^%$^&^%&%$#^@&%*^%
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J and J Auto
GenII
2/05/2004
20:42:21
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The F&B comes with an S bolt and all stainless
screws for sensors and mounting and is well worth
the money. And a new gasket
There are low end gains with the F&B and the
fastman unlike the V8 which remains the same and
on some trucks experience a slight loss on low end
The gains from these 2 throttle bodies is
noticeable as soon as you drive the truck unlike
the V8 bodies
Go with a carsound cat $89 with free ups ground
shipping from truckperformance.com
The V6 will experience some low end loss with no
cat and will also throw an EGR code do to not
enough back pressure the cat with a flowmaster or
dynomax create just enough to flow back through
EGR on the 92 to 95 trucks.
No cat on 96 and up will through codes from the
downstream o2 and effect air fuel ratio do to
the upstream o2 running abnormal temps
Even on my stroked and ported motor it did the
same thing after install of the cat I experienced
no performance loss but no more mil light
My previous dyno was 247hp changing from a ASE
chip computer with a Apexi fuel controller to the
mopar performance comp,with and a wide band o2
trying to adjust the fuel we could not pull any
more power no matter what we did we also changed
from a fastman to an F&B and adding the cat my
next dyno produced 267 RWHP
48 F&B
Mopar performance comp
Carsound high flow cat
20 RWHP what did what I am not sure but the
combination of the 3 I picked up 20 RWHP
Use a cat, with no cat throwing codes your comp
will never acheave a complete learn and your
performance will never peak out as high as it
should
Waiting on some pistons going 10.5 to 1 and going
to try a Hughes Engines Stage 1 manifold run 2
dynos 1 with a 48mm F&B and 1 with a 50mm F&B
All dyno runs are done after a 200 mile learn if
we get any codes that through it into limp we
always solve that prob and another 200 miles
before a run never run without a perfect 200 mile
learn your numbers will be low
There are lots of Elect fans out there just be
sure its rated around 2000 to 2400 cfm you can
also find fans you can mount right in the
existing shroud for a very clean installation
Larry
J&J Auto
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