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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/10/2002
18:33:33
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I was lookin at an intake I am workin on and it dosent look like there is any good neutral ground for an NOS injector to go.
Looks like to get equal distribution of NOS/fuel mix two injectors will be needed, one on both upper sides of the intake just under the TB.
If so has anyone ever done this and how much extra does it cost? Will 2 more soleniods be needed?
I will be joining soon and my name will change.
94 RC SB 3.9, home ported V8 TB,
home modified intake, home made
ram air and Flowmaster 3" in
to 2-2.5" outs to 70 Cuda tips
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IntenseDak39
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2/11/2002
09:09:40
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are you talking about running the nitrous directly into your intake manifold?.....all you need is to run the one nozzle into you intake tube about six inches from the TB.....that should do it...
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bernd
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2/11/2002
10:47:24
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I only know of one plate system that is a direct bolt-on for our trucks...but can't remember the name off hand.
Intense is correct...the standard EFI nozzle works just fine.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/11/2002
10:57:42
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bernd, what do you think about fabbing some kind of intake manifold out of aluminum and having a custom fogger type system that shoots the nos and fuel directly into the port? i have been thinking about it but don't have the tools to weld aluminum very well.
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bernd
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2/11/2002
11:27:00
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Thought about it...but nah. Did you see the new NOS FI injector add-ons for the nitrous systems yet? (Direct port...right on the injector! Needs a fuel rail spacer though and may require a TB spacer as well so that the linkage clears the fuel rails.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/11/2002
11:43:43
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saw it, but looks pricey!
there is a article i think in one of my mags that shows a custom built intake that can switch the tops for different carb setups...looks real cool....and the runners go across the intake directly to the chamber.....look down the runner and all you see is the intake port on the head....pretty sweet
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/11/2002
11:44:27
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by the way......nice hood!
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/11/2002
12:13:54
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u guys have the same one don't u??
which leads me to the way off topic question...why no functional ram air hoods for V6s??
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IntenseDak39
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2/11/2002
12:59:02
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yep, we have the same one....and there is a functional ram air hood.....i thought it was too much of an "SS" looking hood and the cowl on ours follows the body lines very well.
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/11/2002
13:05:56
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i thought only the V8 one was functional
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/11/2002
13:17:23
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you can make it work.....or at least i could!
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/11/2002
14:50:41
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Ok, I understand that the injector will work in the ram air tube but I dont really want to do it that way so help me out guys.
Can I use duel injectors on either side of the intake and what kinda parts will I need to get this done? I mean its nothin but drillin and tappin holes for the injectors so why not? Got to be better distribution that way.
94 RC SB 3.9, home ported V8 TB,
home modified intake, home made
ram air and Flowmaster 3" in
to 2-2.5" outs to 70 Cuda tips
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/11/2002
14:55:22
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u mean the same way that the k&n really fits on the v6?
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/11/2002
15:48:39
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blackdak....yes
scott,
if you want to do that you would need a distribution y's for each line (fuel and nitrous)and two nozzles....it probably won't do you that much good....still squirting the same amount of nitrous.
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/11/2002
17:43:17
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Thanks Intense.
Intense, where do you make the change for the HP of the shot, with "NOS tm" its a "pill"? and its no big deal if I'm just splitting the shot in half I think closer and equal distribution will help anyway. I am writing Speedtweaks today to see what they say. I'm thinkin if a Fogger system is so good because it gets the NOS/fuel right in over the port like EFI I think the closer and more equal shot I get to the ports the better.
Not to sure bout all this but I got money and time to burn and I want the best NOS system short of of a high dollar fogger.
You guys help is always apreciated, keep it commin!!
LOL, Ll Blackdak. I didnt have that problem, I made my own.
94 RC SB 3.9, home ported V8 TB,
home modified intake, home made
ram air and Flowmaster 3" in
to 2-2.5" outs to 70 Cuda tips
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/11/2002
19:24:16
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just change the jets in the nozzle......by the way...bernd is speedtweaks....they might give you the same answer as above.
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IntenseDak39
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2/11/2002
19:45:04
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oh, and fogger systems are so good because they use 400Hp shots....dividing a 75 shot (most you can use running stock hardware) won't do you much good...the fogger divides it because it would be hell shooting that much nos through one nozzle...it would probably not get all sucked up by the engine.
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/11/2002
19:46:54
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how hard is it to install NOS??
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/12/2002
10:30:57
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Now its all comming together in my little brain.
Say you have a 50HP pill in it, if I put two injectors in and both had 50's I would end up with 100? does this sound right to any of you?
I think I can use the two solenoid setup that comes with it just split it like you said.
I was readin another post, gen III's are really 500lbs heavier than II's? damn, I just took almost 200lbs out of my truck the other day.
Felt the difference too!
Soon to join, name will change.
94 RC SB 3.9, home ported V8 TB,
home modified intake, home made
ram air and Flowmaster 3" in
to 2-2.5" outs to 70 Cuda tips
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/12/2002
12:56:00
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if you used two used two different nozzles, each with a 50 jet in it, it might be a 100 shot...but i am telling you....your trying to make this very difficult.....i thought about a port kinda of injection thing but not really worth the effort on our enines....now a blown alcohol 408 with 13.5:1 compression and a powerband up to 9,000 rpmss....that would be a different story.
do you have one by the way.....because i sure would like one!
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2002
10:11:14
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I have to admit the thought of sprayin NOS/Fuel over the TBI blades just dosent turn me on, thats all.
Intense, best I got is a 340 with 10.5:1 that can see 7500, sorry. And no my uncles Conquest dont want no parts of that!!
Wrote Bernd, he said bout the same thing, guess I'm forced to do it your way.
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/13/2002
10:23:31
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join us or parish!!! ha ha ha
what year is your truck...dont forget.....the juice can only be activated during wide open throttle....don't have to worry too much about those throttle blades...
have you ever seen nitrous sprayed....if you have, then you also wouldn't worry about those throttle blades!
340....wow....can i have it?! j/k..
blackdak,
it's not hard....just hard to find locations to put the solenoids and stuff like that....it was a one day job for me.....but that was only because i didn't use enough teflon based sealant on the treads and they leaked when i tested the system...
am i scaring you yet?;) BOOM!...look at the pretty nitrous fire and how it shot that hood 10 feet in the air! wow!
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2002
11:29:11
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Its a 94.
Everything has a price my friend I'm just afraid you wont want to pay what I want for an unrestored but very fast 73 Challenger,lol.
Thats funny about your NOS install.
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IntenseDak39
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2/13/2002
12:47:43
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what's the difference between a restored 73 challenger and a unrestored?.....nothin'......
either way you are bound to get attention!
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/17/2002
21:10:36
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Sorry I havent answered sooner, my buisness had me jumpin.
You right Intense, being ralley red with the R/T hood and "340 Four Barrel" on it, it does get ALOT of attention.
Just read your dyno results, I am in agreement, you need a second opinion bad!!
Shame you had to give them money for that huh?
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/17/2002
21:31:51
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yeah. i think the only way to get a 3700 pound truck down a 1/8 mile track in 9.8 seconds with 152 wrhp would be to have 7.16 gears.....and big tires.....i hope to get another dyno done this friday....by a real professional (bernd). yeah, i am sucking up.
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/17/2002
22:04:07
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Thats cool you live close enough to drive to his shop. I dont have a shop anywhere close that does anything but Mustwangs and Cramaroows!! oh and some startin to do rice.
7.16's would be tough, you'd be outa RPM by half track I think, lol.
What are you going to do for Limited slip? I finally tracked down an 8 3/4 rear from a 69 Satellite, got it comming next week. 4.10's will be in my Dak in 2 weeks or less!!
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IntenseDak39
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2/17/2002
22:21:08
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where do you live...this place usually only does camaros, mustangs, and vettes and that's why they messed up my sixer.
i hope to get 4.10s soon but i used my money to pay off some bills...
i am also thinking of just getting a powertrax no-slip.......wish they made the locker for the 98 8 1/4
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/18/2002
16:05:11
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I'm in VA.
You dont want a Locker, ther WAY to hard on axles.
I seen too many C clip type rears come apart to want to spend any money on one plus I have 3 third members already setup for the 8 3/4 rear: 2.76 (for those trips to Indy) 3.55 (now for the Chally) 4.10's for the Dak!!
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IntenseDak39
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2/18/2002
16:21:35
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yeah, i know but they are a lot cheaper.....my brother has a 83 chebby 4x4 with lockers in front and back,3.73 gears,350hp 350,th350,37.5 inch tires and the stock axles have help up through his stupidity. i road in it and it is nice to hear the huge tires cherp around corners.
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/19/2002
09:45:37
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LOL.
I like the "hows my driving/ Race me thing" oh, and I get it.
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