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master_p141 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
1/12/2004 19:20:38
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Message: i was wonderin what would be the better one for the money...
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just thinkin Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
1/12/2004 22:22:00
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Message: imo i would try to rig up a turbo set up.. the motors dont take boost to well, or so i have heard. make 8lbs of boost off a turbo and these daks would move quite well, but the hard part would b fuel management...i just dont see spending 3000+ for a supercharger set up when u get a turbo for much cheaper and have sum 1 bend pipes for u. get just as much power from the 2 of them and the turbo wont chew up hp..unless ur lookin for more lowend, then the superharger would b ur best bet. eather way the trucks dont really move to fast theres 1 running a blower and nitrous and runnin a 14.55 kinda not the amount of cash i would want to spend to see those numbers. but to each there own and his truck is still badass
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blacksunshine Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
1/13/2004 02:32:20
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Message: as far as i understand its a matter of where you want your power, with turbos you will get a certain amount of lag when you start to romp on it usully, thats why they pair up. When you have a twin turbo setup, your first turbo is alot smaller, so that it spins up very fast and has very little lag, as it speeds up and reaches its max speed the waste gate on it opens and dumps into the larger turbo and gets it spinning so that it can continue to put out more boost. The cons of this kinda of setup is you will restrict your exhaust a certain amount and restrict some and lose a little high end performance.
Super chargers have no wait, as put your foot on the gas to go its right there with you the hole time, However you lose some horsepower because its running off your engine as an acessorie, obviously your gonna get more hp back then you lose, however its still something to think about.
With either your gonna have to think about air tempature past a certain amount of psi, turbos usully use and intercooler, and i belive most high end super chargers use intercooler as well if not all of them. This is an effect of compressing the air no matter how cool it is when it comes into the super/turbo its gonna come out hotter before it reaches the engine. Cooling can also come into play in most super chargers, either oil cooling or water cooling can be used in these systems depending on the design.
Theres some cool mods you can use also when useing any system with an intercooler, primarily the Co2 bottle in the back with a hose going up to the intercool so you can ice it up when traveling at high speeds to get better performance.
i would personally make sure you done as much as possible before you go putting a super or a turbo into the mix, that way you can insure the best possible performance gain from it.
If you find a nice turbo setup for daks i would love to see the link to that.
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Red03Dakota Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
1/13/2004 13:14:31
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Message: if you run any kinda turbo you need an intercooler would not make much sense to be pushing hot air back into the motor without a way tot ry and cool it down some.
turbo runs off the exhuast equaling hot air. need to make sure it is cooled down so you wont loose as much power with it getting only hot air. as stated superchargers are there off the line turbo's take time to get going.
but build the motor as stated before too. best thing would be get a custom hood too and try and get air flow to the turbo it self to keep it cool. if you run turbo make dang sure you have a boost controller.
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IntenseDak39 *GenIII*
1/13/2004 14:59:20
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Message: how many of yall have turbocharged V6 dakotas?
how many of yall have supercharged V6 dakotas?
plain and simple... s/c on V6 dakotas blow ass! I had one... it sucked, greg555 had one, he was disappointed (from what i heard from him)... bernd had one with nitrous (60 shot) and only managed a 14.55.
s/c inlet air can be just as hot... its not the turbine that makes t/c inlet air as hot as it is... its the fact that the air is being compressed.
if you can build it yourself or have the money to spend... go turbocharged. More immediate power and longer power than a s/c. People can say the "lag" all they want, but they havent had a turbocharged vehicle... maybe a diesel.
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