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smoht
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1/04/2004
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I just rebuilt a 95 3.9l. Had to buy a new crank sensor since my father and I broke it pulling the motor out because it feel and couldn't see it. So I decided to go ahead and do the mod to it. I'm not sure if I did it correctly or not. See the motor, doesn't quite want to idle and it very ruff starting, has to crank and crank before it goes. Then I have a clicking sound. Sounds like soild lifters and all instead of rollers. Now on the crank mod, you file it out and move the metal part towards the drivers side? Thats what I did and I can't find any post that tell me which way to go. So if anyone has any idea's on what that sound could be, and tell me which way to move the sensor (towards driver side or pass. side) I'd really be thankful.
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Spiller
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1/04/2004
02:11:28
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KRC Performance
Sounds like you went the wrong way.
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smoht
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1/04/2004
02:15:47
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would that cause the soild cam,rocker sound also? since i did move it the wrong way?
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vern
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1/04/2004
08:44:07
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on the sensor-the end thats goes in the bell housing[remove rubber gourmet]moves toward pass.side.
try this and see if the motor quits down
if not remove valve covers and see if your getting oil to the rockers.if theres no oil there
then theres probaily no oil to the lifters.
check push rods too make sure the rods are not plugged
some times if the lifters set very long they can take along time pumping up
mentally go over everything you and your dad do to the motor,maybe there is something you over looked in the rebuild
bearings installed,oil pump,lifters,rocker arms etc you may think of something over looked or installed wrong.
if your getting oil up stairs,your more than likely getting it every where
hope this helps
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smoht
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1/04/2004
15:06:14
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pulled the valve covers, its oiling but kinda slow, there is only one rockerarm that isn't getting oil. Any ideas?
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vern
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1/04/2004
15:16:17
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try removing the rocker,pull the push rod out and see if the hole in the ends are plugged,
run a wire threw the rod til it comes out the other end to remove the plug,this is how the rockers get there oil
from lifters threw push rods to rockers.
the rockers don,t need alot of oil at idle,but they do at higher RPMs for cooling
vern
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smoht
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1/04/2004
15:23:02
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cleaned the push rods really good before we put them back in the motor..But will do. What could be causing that damn sound?
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vern
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1/05/2004
18:45:52
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smoht do you still got loud lifters?
how long have you run the motor since rebuild?
try running it at a slight faster than idle 1200rpms for a few minutes.
if this did,nt help then i would think on removing the oil pan and checking the pick-up tube and oil pump for a air leak,crack in the pick-up tube,pump where it mounts to the block etc
good luck these things can drive you nuts.
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smoht
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1/05/2004
19:14:28
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well i posted this in another topic, but looking thourgh the haynes manual noticed that the lifter plates go in a certain way. We can't remember if we put them in the right way. Also I don't have a valley pan, trying to figure out how much thats going to cost me. Your being very helpful vern thanks
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smoht
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1/05/2004
19:20:37
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oh and we've ran the motor maybe 20-30 minutes max so far. off and on.
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smoht
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1/05/2004
23:38:23
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Thanks for all the help vern, found out what the problem tonight. That metal plate thing that the starter goes though on the tranny. Part of it was rubbing the flywheel, took it off no sound. Grinded the part that was rubbing down putting it on tomorrow to see if it still makes the sound hopefully not!
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