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03 Dakota
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11/27/2003
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Hello guys well I have been reading past posts and thinking of what I want to do.. I have a 2003 3.9 Dakota with 5600 miles on her and these are the mods I have done at this time..
(1) home brewed cold air intake
(2) Dynomax muffler
(3) remote start
(4) Hard tonneau cover
(5) Amsoil 0w-30 since 1000 miles
(6) Kleen wheels brake dust deflectors and other things that dont pertain to the question.
I am going to go to the junk yard and find a pair of 3.9 heads and a intake, and I want to know exactly what I should have done to the intake and heads to get the most power out of my 3.9..
I also have a brand new v-8tb, this is my train of thought I have.. I want to get the heads and intake (port matched) done (to your guys instructions) and add the tb on that then in the spring (or sooner) put it all on at one time..
By the time I am ready to put this on my truck I will have put the new wires & plugs,cap,and rotor & relocate the IAT sensor and 180 stat..
Will relocating IAT sensor be enough (gas wise) to accomidate all this new air flow??
I have read in past post about getting the intake gasket done right after altering the intake any suggestions on this..
This is to intense if I cant find an one to do the intake do you want to do it?
I want to remind you this has to be a daily driver, I drive it 100 miles to work everyday..
Future modifications after intake and heads..
(1) Cam
(2) This one is dependent on price Power dine Super Charger like the one they did to the s-10
in the 30th anniversary issue of Truckin
Well I hope I covered most everything in this big post.. I also want to tell everyone to have a happy thank giving.. Cya
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vern
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11/27/2003
08:56:22
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i,m not any of the guys your looking for.but port matching won,t do much unless you are going to turn it hard[rpm]
go with porting the heads,cam and roller rockers
[and if you use 1.7 ratio rockers or a cam with over .500 lift,better valve springs]
hughes engines.com have a beer barrel intake thats been worked,just tell them your add ons and spec.[and future add ons]they also have cams.
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IntenseDak39
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11/27/2003
13:24:53
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i am gonna go with a lot of what vern said.
The main thing on the 3.9 heads is that they just need to be cleaned up. on the number 2 and 5 exhaust ports, there is a really nasty casting that needs to be ground down. If you wanna try to get the most power out of it, run a little higher than the stock 9:1 compression, select the perfect cam, undercut the valves, three angle valve job and so on. There's a lot that can be done with a intake manifold and i have some pix somewhere that i'll show you later (too busy now). I have not experienced with port matching the heads to the manifold, but with any engine it could only help and not hurt.
now if you are looking for 3.9 heads, i have two complete heads off of a 98 3.9 with only 62K miles on them. If you want them, let me know
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FazDak
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11/27/2003
15:31:20
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I think Im one of those guyz. :-D>
Anyway....those guys have most of all the good mods, the only thing I would caution is to make your head purchase contingent upon no cracks. 3.9 heads have a bad tendency to crack.
Unlike most I will reccomend better valve springs as soon as you change the rev limit. I have seen a pretty dramatic difference a couple of times even with stock cams. Better seat pressure is better seat pressure no matter how you look at it and if compression at any RPM can benefit I say go for it as it is a cheap mod.
I will also differ a bit and tell you that every engine I have ever built has benefited from bowl porting. Valves are usually shrouded quite heavily and this will free up substantial flow in all rpm's.
IAT relocate will bump your timing up a few degrees dependent on where you put it and how cold it stays relative to the engines actual IAT. I think Intense had the wildest mount that I can recall to date. lol
As close to the air cleaner (in a CAI setup) is usually sufficient.
I would go ahead and do the TB mod, that will give your Dak quite a boost and will keep your pumped up about the rest of it.
Good luck to ya and happy Tgivin to you!
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03 Dakota
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11/27/2003
22:19:26
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Well guys you gave me a lot of suggestions on what to do with the heads and now I would like to hear what you think I should do to the intake?
I did print off some of the other post you had done in the past but I just want to confirm the mods to the intake before I get started..
I am going to go to the junk yard tommorow and look around and see whats out there.. I have not done this in a longtime it should be fun.. We have one junk yard out here that deals strickley in Mopar products..
Intense what did you want for the heads? I know shipping will be a arm and a leg tho..
Guys I had a problem with hughesengines.com website, does any of you know what they are charging for that intake they have.. I will have to call them when the holiday is over with..
I have been away from working on engines for a long time and things have changed..I guess I used to do it the lazy way and buy the kit and just build the motor..
What about shave the heads a little or wont that work because of higher compresion ratio's, and still running stock pistons..
I dont want to go any farther down into the motor than the heads for now other than a cam.. I guess if you do the cam you might as well buy a double roller timeing chain and gears while I there, or what ever is the good stuff now and days..
The truck is still very new, I figure it is the best time because it is at its strongest it will ever be..
I just want to take my time this winter and buy all the best stuff and have the proper work done on the intake and heads with out it being to much for the lower end of the motor..
Money is not a big issue other than a $4.000 super charger that I would like to have and the new hood and new rims and tires..
I have the truck for only 3 months and I want all this stuff for it and the wife might kick my butt.. In fact I know she would, that is why I will look for a deal on the super charger when I am ready and the time is right..
Some wifes just cant understand LOL :-)
I dont like to spend money foolishly but we got to have our toys right.. Well thanks for all your help guys.. CYA
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vern
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11/28/2003
09:11:29
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heres some basic # from hughes engines.com
[you really need to check it out your self for more options]
intakes-v6=$420,v8=$515
throttle bodies in cfm,s to compare with carbs-
stock v6-328,stageI-469
stock v8-633,stageI-728,stageII-823,stageIII-928,
$295
heads-yours=stageI,1.92-1.625 valves=$889
stage II,2.02-1.65 valves=$1175
different springs for different cams etc,
mag heads drilled and tapped to except LA intakes
[dual pattern]$64
cams-your core=regrind $187 w/o core $262,new $395
hope this helped some
Vern
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hookonphonics
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11/28/2003
09:33:54
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vern u r wasting ur time he is just some azzhole english teacher that has nothing better to do with his time than beech about his under powered v-suks
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03 Dakota
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11/28/2003
09:57:01
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Vern dont lsten to the gay flamers, I do apperciate the help more than you know..
I just get a kick out of these gay flamers that are on this forum.. I am sure they work flippen buggers at there favorite golden arches resturant and cant afford to do anything to there truck..
I make more in a year than you will make in five years, go back to flippen burgers boy, at least we know what your good at..
Sorry Vern I could not help myself LOL :-) and thanks again for all your guys help not including the gay flamers..
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Flamer
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11/28/2003
10:22:09
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Makes more in 1yr than I in 5 and his email is "WEBTV" hahahahahahaha......
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03 Dakota
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11/28/2003
10:22:55
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Hey guys you know who said it best about our 3.9 was FAZDAK..
He said he was on the freeway and was trying to get by that motorcycle and when he punched it and was gone and that guy said what you got in there 360 no just a small 3.9..
You got to love it, well off to the junk yard to look around and see what they got..Its been raining so you know its going to be a mud hole but that is half the fun.. Cya
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03 Dakota
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11/28/2003
10:30:00
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Hey Flamer you for got the gay part in your name.. Check my other posts under Mopar performance support and you might be able figure out where I work Mr smarty pants HAHAHHAHA
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03 Dakota
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11/28/2003
13:36:33
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Well Fazdak and vern intense this was a most productive day.. I went to a couple of junk yards just looking around and asking questions and I happen to go by this speed shop that I never new was there and I got to talk to the owner for about a hour...
We talked about the old days of racing and how it has changed to today, He got me convinced the best bang for the buck would be a new computer and a super charger and the throttle body..
There are other Questions I will be talking to him about later, but know all I have to do is do some looing into what computer and super charger will be the best for my applcation..
He said he does not do to many Dodges but he kept talking about Paxton S/C, He did not say that is what I should get but I will have to do some looking and see what is best for my 3.9..
I told him I have been away from this for about 15 years now so bear with me and my questions.. Well I am feeling a whole lot better now that I got to talk to him..
I value your imput as well guys so if you would like to give me your two cents I would gladley like to hear it.. You can e-mail me at BCSDutcher@webtv.net or we can do it on this forum it dont matter to me, I just get tired of hearing the flamers talk.. Thaks as always guys.. Cya
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pogi
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11/28/2003
22:20:46
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I scanned my 00 Dak 3.9 with Auto Xray OBDII and there is one section that failed that it says;
T=1B C=00 Fail
Hi 004C! <=0032
Can somebody help me and explain what this means.
MAHALO.
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IntenseDak39
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11/29/2003
06:14:00
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i wouldnt waste the money on a s/c... they really just dont do that much for a 3.9. Well for the price of em anyways.
shipping isnt that bad... just probably $25 a piece
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