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dickie
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11/09/2003
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I have a 2000 Dakota V6 with 77,000 miles and it is time to have the automatic transmission serviced. Last time I took it to the dealer they just changed the filter, gasket, and 5 quarts of ATF +3 fluids. My receipt doesn’t have anything about them adjusting the bands.
Does my transmission have bands that need to be adjusted each service?
I seen in my owner’s manual that torque converter can’t be drained.
Should my transmission be flushed with one of those ATF exchanger units and then filled with fresh ATF +3 fluids?
Does anyone know how much fluid my transmission holds? (This is not in the owner’s manual)
If no bands need to be adjusted and no need for flush then I may consider doing this one myself.
Any suggestions?
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RocketDak
Dodge Dakota
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11/09/2003
09:27:02
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I recently asked the same question. The answers were very harsh but I did it anyway and the truck runs great...
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/14649.html
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J and J Auto
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11/09/2003
11:37:30
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Fluid and filter is the best way to go a flush
might cause probs.
Yes there are 2 bands but if the trans works ok I
would not worrie about adjusting them.
Save the money and do it yourself. filter and
gasket at autozone $5 to $10 and chrysler
recomends the +4 fluid in all the truck autos now
Or Amsoil universal works very well in these trany's
The capacity is around 12 qts a filter change will
get about 5 to 6 about 50% changed and if you do
it on a regular basis you should have no probs
with the trabs
Larry
J&J Auto
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AmsoilSponsor
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11/09/2003
15:21:06
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Thanks Larry,
Yes, if you have the right tools, the proper mechanical ability, and if you are going to DIY ... You can pick up a filter kit from AutoZone for about $10 and it contains the filter and gasket. It is not nessasary to use any silicon or gasket sealer just be sure your pan surface is clean. NOTE: It is a messy DIY job.
Honestly, I purchase Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF for my own vehicles and then take the fluids to a local "Quick Change" shop. They use the fluids that I provide and charge me a "nominal" service fee for the labor. I do the same with my motor oil.
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Amsoil Universal Synthetic ATF
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Changing Your Transmission Fluid in 12 EASY Steps:
1. Make sure the fluid is warm. Warm up your Dakota so the transmission is at normal operating temperature. Pull the transmission dipstick. Fresh fluid is translucent and cherry red. Some darkening is normal, but if it is reddish brown or mustard color and smells like burnt varnish, it is worn out.
2. Drain the fluid by loosening the pan. Select the correct filter replacement based on pan shape and prepare a large pan to catch the fluid. Then loosen each pan bolt a turn or two and loosen one corner more than rest. Drain mostly from this corner.
3. Finish removing the pan and any gasket material from the pan or case. Avoid scratching the metal and make sure the pan’s gasket surface isn’t bent or distorted.
4. Remove the old filter. Most transmission filters are held in place with a bolt or two, but some are held by a clip. Be careful to include O-Rings or other seals.
5. Install a new filter. Use the clips or bolts from the old filter. Be sure O-Rings, etc. are in place. If the filter has a long intake neck, gently push the neck into place without unseating the O-Ring.
6. Clean the pan thoroughly. Inspect the pan before cleaning. A small amount of fine grey clutch dust is normal. However, if you find metal shavings, there has been transmission damage. Clean the pan with solvent and wipe dry so there is no harmful residue.
7. Position gasket on pan. Some gaskets have four holes slightly smaller than the rest to allow four bolts through the pan and through these smaller holes to hold the gasket in place.
8. Hand tighten pan bolts in a criss-cross pattern. After that, use a torque wrench to tighten bolts to proper ft-lbs as per manufacturer.
9. Refill the transmission using only the amount shown as “refill capacity” in the owners manual or "AMSOIL Product Selection Guide,” using the type of fluid specified for the vehicle.
10. If doing only a partial fluid replacement, skip to instruction 12 below. If doing a complete fluid replacement, follow the steps in instruction 11.
11. You now have replaced the fluid in the pan. To replace the fluid in the torque converter and oil cooler also, follow these steps.
Step 1. Obtain the total system capacity of the vehicle from the manufacturer or AMSOIL. Have this amount readily available.
Step 2. Disconnect the oil cooler line from the oil cooler. As you may not know which is the pressure side and which is the return side, have both directed so the stream of fluid will be directed toward a receptacle.
Step 3. With another person, be prepared to add ATF to the fill area as it is being pumped out of the oil cooler line.
Step 4. Start the engine, and as the old fluid is pumped out, add fresh fluid to the pan.
Step 5. When either the fluid color brightens or the total capacity has been replaced, shut the engine off and re-attach the oil cooler line. All fluids has now been changed.
12. Recheck the fluid level. With the truck on level ground, set the parking brake and the transmission in “Park” or “Neutral.” Let the engine idle for a few minutes. Shift the transmission into different positions before returning the lever to “Park” or “Neutral.” Check the fluid level again and check for leaks.
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Amsoil UNIVERSAL Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Improves fuel efficiency, reduces transmission temperatures and increases transmission life. Provides unsurpassed thermal stability and up to five times the service life of conventional ATFs. Delivers maximum protection for towing and other severe-duty applications.
Recommended for applications requiring the following specifications:
Chrysler ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4
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dickie
Dodge Dakota
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11/09/2003
17:01:17
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What is the total system capacity for my transmission, I think it is a 42RE, but could be a 46RE?? (Not sure) I have seen anywhere from 12 to 16 quarts for complete change.
Where is the oil cooler line located?
Sorry, I don't have a Chiltons or a Haynes manual. Would having one of these manuals be helpful? I had one for my old truck but Haynes left alot to guessing. Do any of these manuals show detailed steps for doing this procedure?
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dickless
Dodge Dakota
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11/09/2003
17:07:21
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"Sorry, I don't have a Chiltons or a Haynes manual. Would having one of these manuals be helpful?"
GEET ONE YOU DICKLESS DUMBAZZ
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postman
Dodge Dakota
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11/09/2003
20:05:11
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if you get the haynes manual it will tell you how to adjust the bands. If you have any miles on the vehicle and all you do is change the fluid, all you have is clean fluid and loose bands.
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bigl22
Dodge Dakota
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11/15/2003
13:20:52
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yes -- you need to have the bands adjusted every time you change the fluid and filter -- otherwise they wre too loose and will not properly grip the internal clutch -- you can get a manual from chiltons or haynes -- or get the instructions from those books in the poublic library -- you will need a 3/8ths drive torque wrench -- NOT a 1/2 inch drive wrench
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dickie
Dodge Dakota
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11/15/2003
13:24:21
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Sorry I don't have money to throw around like some of you pussy's,
I had it done a the Dealer
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J and J Auto
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11/15/2003
14:15:47
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There are 2 bands and they are easy to adjust, you
do not need a torque wrench to do it
Just snug the adjuster down kind of like a rocker
arm 0 lash and just put a mark on the adjustor
bolt and back off the recomended amount, 2 turns
2 1/2 turns what ever is recomended for your
aplication and trans
I have never used a torque wrench to adj bands
and I have worked on hundreds of transmissions
Larry
J&J Auto
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Joe
Dodge Dakota
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11/15/2003
14:26:49
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