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J and J Auto
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10/22/2003
17:28:31
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Here is a pic of a head from a motor running the
fine penzoil with paraffin wax, shank can fill
you in on the details, I have seen many motors
the same way.
Ford had a real prob when people used P oil the
wax would block off the oil gallies and create
rod knocks
Larry
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IntenseDak39
*GenIII*
10/22/2003
17:39:50
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holy crap!!!
thats worse than the cars you see at the junk yard!
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whitedakota2
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10/22/2003
17:47:43
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Larry, I have seen the same thing.
One motor was so bad that there was hardly any low spots between the rockers!
Almost made a mold of the valve cover! LOL
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jumperalex
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
17:58:45
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And you know for sure the engine was taken care of otherwise? frequent changes etc?
I mean that just seems INSANE to come from using a particular oil brand in the recommended way.
Still I also don't, nor plan to use penzoil cause I run valvoline/mobile 1 exlusively; depends on the weight I need and the application (truck, turbo car, road race motorcycle)
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AmsoilSponsor
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10/23/2003
06:34:06
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I could go into a long discussion but I am tired.
Too many late World Series Games. (12 innings last night)
Short message: Consider Amsoil Synthetic Oil.
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/23/2003
07:04:23
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I wanted to add an additional short comment.
Larry, You know I respect your opinions and advice.
But ... Don't immediately blame the oil.
I have seen good Used Oil Analysis and Tech Reports with some dino oil's ... including Penzoil ... although Penzoil does not appear to be as shear stable in some reports.
Since Penzoil is America's most popular brand (especially at the Quickie Lube's) and Quaker State a close second, it's not surprising that you're going to see many engines "sludged up", that just happen to be using Penzoil (or Quaker State). It is just a numbers game. Is this because Penzoil is bad? I would say it's because the owners failed to do proper maintenance.
As I am certain you are aware of ... many things can cause sludging ... such as coolant in the oil, blocked coolant passages, etc.
Everyone should perform a Used Oil Analysis (UOA). It will alert you to pending problems within your engine before they become a disaster ... so that you can take corrective or preventive action.
Just my .02
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daddio
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
08:46:20
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i've taken heads off a '78 chev 305 that looked like that. owner changed oil every 4,000 miles. Castrol GTX. I'll never use it.
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IntenseDak39
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10/23/2003
08:59:08
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LOL!!
i just love how people expect something to look new after 25 years. It couldnt of been anything else other than the oil right? Hell, all that could cause that to happen is that you could of had a stopped up PCV valve and that coulda done it.
we used castrol gtx in our van and pumping out over 300,000 miles on the original motor... you gotta do a lot more than change your oil guys!
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Ram man
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
17:38:13
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Hey Steven,
What Amsoil would you recommend for my new Ram I am getting delivered today? It has the HO diesel engine and I want to switch to synthetics as soon as I can. Thanks.
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J and J Auto
GenII
10/23/2003
17:53:41
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Steven,
I don't blame the oil just showing people what can
happen,
I would say this was most likly from pluged return
holes or running to cold it just shows up better
with this type of oil with wax as an aditive.
Another thing that causes this build up is lots
of short trips never alowing the motor to
completly warm up
I ran penzoil all my life untill I found Amsoil
Larry
J&J Auto
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scott
Dodge Dakota
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10/24/2003
03:22:55
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Intense.....gotta say bro, thats a sweeeet Dak.
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10/24/2003
09:10:22
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Larry,
Thanks for pointing our that "short trips" kill engines. Many vehicle owners don't understand the older generations concept of "blowing it out" (as taking a long and fast Sunday afternoon drive). I'm sure you remember.
Ram Man,
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FrequentOILCh
Dodge Dakota
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10/24/2003
16:25:38
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AmsoilSponsor wrote"Everyone should perform a Used Oil Analysis (UOA)"
Where is this done?
How much does it cost?
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/29/2003
09:55:34
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Oil Analysis
Amsoil uses and recommends Oil Analyzers, Inc. You can find their information in your Amsoil catalog. Reminder ... you are not looking for raw #'s ... but also an interpretation of those #'s.
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NOTE: For the above reason ... You should use a lab that is familiar with the additive chemstry of the oil you are using. For instance ... testing Amsoil, I'd use Oil Analyzers, Inc., and for all you Mobil1 users, AV Lube. I think you will get more accurate data on oxidation, nitration, TBN, etc., etc., if you do this.
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What is Oil Analysis?
Oil analysis involves sampling and analyzing oil for various properties and materials to monitor wear and contamination in an engine, transmission or hydraulic system. Sampling and analyzing on a regular basis establishes a baseline of normal wear and can help indicate when abnormal wear or contamination is occurring.
Oil analysis works like this. Oil that has been inside any moving mechanical apparatus for a period of time reflects the exact condition of that assembly. Oil is in contact with engine or mechanical components as wear metallic trace particles enter the oil. These particles are so small they remain in suspension. Many products of the combustion process also will become trapped in the circulating oil. The oil becomes a working history of the machine.
Particles caused by normal wear and operation will mix with the oil. Any externally caused contamination also enters the oil. By identifying and measuring these impurities, you get an indication of the rate of wear and of any excessive contamination. An oil analysis also will suggest methods to reduce accelerated wear and contamination.
The typical oil analysis tests for the presence of a number of different materials to determine sources of wear, find dirt and other contamination, and even check for the use of appropriate lubricants.
Oil analysis can detect: Fuel dilution of lubrication oil, Dirt contamination in the oil, Antifreeze in the oil, Excessive bearing wear, Misapplication of lubricants.
Some wear is normal, but abnormal levels of a particular material can give an early warning of impending problems and possibly prevent a major breakdown.
Early detection can: Reduce repair bills, Reduce catastrophic failures, Increase machinery life, Reduce non-scheduled downtime.
Early detection with oil analysis can allow for corrective action such as repairing an air intake leak before major damage occurs. Probably one of the major advantages of an oil analysis program is being able to anticipate problems and schedule repair work to avoid downtime during a critical time of use.
Another purpose of oil analysis is to provide a means of predicting possible impending failure without dismantling the equipment. A person can "look inside" an engine, transmission or hydraulic system without taking it apart.
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Once you order the "sampling kit" follow the directions very close so as to NOT contaminate the sample. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
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I could go on-and-on about the merits and benefits of oil analysis. Entire phamplets have been written on the subject. However, the proper lab will do the dirty work and provide you with a "bottom line" interpretation.
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Thank You,
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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10/29/2003
11:01:21
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As a follow-up ...
If you want perhaps the "best" oil analysis available, I suggest Blackstone Labs, because their package will give you a lot more information and interpretation of the results, which is very valuable. They will also answer any questions that you may have.
Here is their website:
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/free_test_kit.html
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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whoo_whoo
Dodge Dakota
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6/02/2004
20:59:42
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Shanks Stanks!
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