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J and J Auto
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10/24/2003
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Hey just go spend $12 and get a locking gas cap.
OK change a motor in a new cadilak with the
northstar system and than tell me about poor
enginering 60,000 miles dead on road oh ya
it had a knock sensor
On my V6 I am glad I don't have a knock sensor it
would make things dificult.
The only reason they use them is for dumb A$$ like
you that don't know there own A$$ from a hole in
the ground and would distroy there motor by doing
dumb things you think will make you vehicle faster
Larry
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waynne
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10/24/2003
22:34:58
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why couldn't DC make seats that lay back. Help my sleep and my sex life.
And for you touchy boys, relax and accept it. Daks aren't perfect.
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scott
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10/25/2003
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if i may add to the list of woes...buy yaself a Honduh, go buy brakes for it, and hope you know wether you have Akebono calipers or not.Better yet, theres a ricer out there that could pulls a list of CV joints 2 pages long..ABS, No ABS, High Speed Diff or not, manual or auto trans with any of the above options. i bought a locking gas cap. seemed a helluva lot easier to me
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spotty
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2003
13:57:14
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whereever I go, I leave a little something behind. It could a few drops of engine oil, somtimes some transmission fluid and once in a while some antifreeze.
Currently I'm leaving some trans and antifreeze and it's a 99. Ain't that old
Bet they still use the cork gaskets
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wanne
Dodge Dakota
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10/26/2003
18:24:41
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all daks leak out of there trans. saves them 2 bucks for cheap seals .. costs me 200 bucks to replace it.
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tndak
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10/26/2003
19:16:34
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Hummm lets compare the original list of complaints to my 1988 Yugo
1 standard with a locking gas cap
2 distributor is held on with 2 spring clips
3 no plastic battery cover
4 distributor is up front and very easy to get to
5 the Yugo radiator is well protected
6 the radiator over flow bottle is very easy to remove
7 no cable holders to break, all wires in a wire loom
8 humm well it does have a sturdy steel oil pan
9 uses 4.8 qts of oil with a change
10 actually my Yugo's engine, although a little cold natured, runs like a sewing machine, and not much more power than one either!
11 again with 89 or higher octane no pinging
12 headlights are very easy to remove
There you have it by the original standards listed my yugo is in the top 10 for great engineering!!
LOL
The Yugo is fun to drive though, feels like driving a go-cart at 70 mph! Yeah I really got it up to 70!
Adam
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GB2000
Dodge Dakota
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10/26/2003
19:17:23
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I guess I must have a dak look-alike then since my tranny has never leaked... nor have I leaked coolant, oil, gas, water, windshield washer fluid, brake fluid, and the list goes on...
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Jon
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10/26/2003
21:09:05
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You say it shows that you bought a dak instead of a tundra. I am a dak owner and a toyota technician so lets compare.
>>1. no locking gas cover
Why would you want one?
>>2. distributor cap has hex bolts but not enough >>room around them for a socket.
Tundra has no distributor, i never had a problem getting my daks dist cap off though.
>>3. they put a plastic cover over the battery >>that you throw away when you replace the >>battery
Tundra has a foam one, you should put it back on your new battery, it protects it from heat.
>>4. distributor is jammed between engine and >>fire wall.
see #2
>>5. radiator with no protection in front of it.
Tundra has no protection either
>>6. you have to remove bumper to replace >>radiator overflow bottle
Ever replace a tundra washer solvent bottle?
>>7. cable holders that you have to break to open
??
>>8. steel oil pan not aluminum/magnesium
Tundra is steel
>>9. only four quarts of oil for a V6
I agree with you there, but it's more like 4.8
>>10. noisey squelling/knocking engine
Tundra piston slap like crazy when there cold
>>11. pinging when running
So do Tundras
A dak is one of the easiest vehicles around to work on if you have the right tools, try working on a front wheel drive V6 car. You can't see most of the parts, you have to know where they are and unbolt them just by feel. You only have 2 inches clearance all around to try and remove the engine without breaking anything.
Plus the dak is a midsize truck, and the tundra is a fullsize truck. You should really compare it to a Tacoma.
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Darryl
Dodge Dakota
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10/26/2003
21:28:40
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'99 V6 cc auto 2wd: (one of the very cleanest on the street, I sware)
I bought it new and I take care of it to almost an obsessive amount (ask my wife!)
It has NEVER leaked ANYWHERE and still runs better than new (it better after all the mods).
People that do the bare minimum or less to maintain their sh#t, and then wonder why they have problems make me laugh!
An ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure.
God did I just say that???....... My mom would be proud!
Darryl
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DakDude
Dodge Dakota
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10/27/2003
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3. they put a plastic cover over the battery that you throw away when you replace the battery
Maybe you throw it away, I think most people keep it on the new battery.
5. radiator with no protection in front of it.
Not many 'protected' radiators are protected enough to withstand front impact to begin with. No point.
6. you have to remove bumper to replace radiator overflow bottle
I had an '84 Pontiac Fiero and you had to remove the engine to replace the belts.
7. cable holders that you have to break to open
Umm...maybe you have to break them... I never have, most people I know never have...
10. noisey squelling/knocking engine
11. pinging when running
I had a '95 Suzuki Sidekick that sounded like a diesel big rig when it was cold, and pinged like a mofo the rest of the time, regardless of the octane used. Somehow it managed to last over 250,000 miles with bare minimum maintenance (regular oil, plugs when I got around to it.) The point being that sound has little to do with the function of an engine.
Most engines ping or chatter like crazy. You generally don't hear it because many automakers dampen the sound, or run sound reversals/white noise in the engine to cancel it out.
12. little holes to remove headlight bulbs
Get smaller fingers, ham fist.
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Black Sheep
Dodge Dakota
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10/27/2003
17:35:55
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HAM FIST, LMAO, Man thats a good one! I am going to remember that.
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cockran
Dodge Dakota
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10/27/2003
19:44:36
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just saw the news on TV
- a class action lawsuit against dakota and dorango for upper ball joints
- national safety board says they fail 100 times more often than ford or chevy
- national safety board may have recall
for the blind dak believers, it's the drivers not the cars - loosers
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whovillan
Dodge Dakota
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10/28/2003
01:36:40
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this is on a 1993 dodge dakota 3.9L v6 with a standard trans. whats wrong with the C.M.C. dak division they made the right side cylinder head hang over the c.p.s. mounting bolts. to change a $60 part you have to pull the head. had they moved the c.p.s. 1/2 an inch in either direction and you could pop that thing in and out very easy.
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cage
Dodge Dakota
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10/28/2003
17:20:06
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just bought a distrubutor cap and rotor for the wife's Honda. Darn but it's well made with steel bushings and a rubber gasket.
Dodge has gotten better. I stopped buying american cars way back because I knew how the rattle traps were built.
Dodge now does have sound buffers in the dash but they still have a long way to go.
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sigep824
Dodge Dakota
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10/29/2003
16:17:44
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spotty: yes the seals are still cork, but mine has a 112000 miles and doens't leak a drop anywhere.
As far as radiator protection (i'm assuming from rocks etc) get a piece of aluminium screen for a screen door and paint it black. Works great for me.
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Jumperalex
Dodge Dakota
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10/29/2003
17:16:57
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Better yet get some plastic gutter mesh. It is alrady black, doesn't chip, doesn't bend, is CHEEEAAAP, and secures up really well using black zip ties to the verticle members of the stock grill.
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Joe
Dodge Dakota
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10/30/2003
06:35:55
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Loved the Yugo bit. Wow, old dude has some issues. The number one complaint, no locking gas cap. WTF, damn thieves dont want my radio, just need some gas. I guess the gas crisis had some folks in a frenzy.
I can realate to the 70mph in a go cart. I had my aspire to 90mph down a hill, maxes at 85 on flat ground, not too bad for a 1.3-4
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OMG
Dodge Dakota
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11/01/2003
09:54:48
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gas crises??? what gas crises??? we are having a gas crises??????? HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPP we are having a gas crises!!!!!!! Line up for miles!!!!! wait till your day of the month comes up to get gas !!!!!!!! ration coupons!!!!!! Missed your day of the month?? too bad gotta wait till next month!!!!!! Lines extendeing from gas stations out to six miles long on the interstates!!!!!! GAS CRISIS!!!!!!!!Follow that tanker!!!!!!!!better yet, hijack it!!!!!!!!!!gas crisis!!!!!!
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Joe
Dodge Dakota
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11/01/2003
14:45:46
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Ok OMG. It is awesome right now, here at $1.29. BUt in some states wasnt it about $2.50 per gallon a few months ago. Funny bit, were you standing. Also notice I used past tense.
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devo
Dodge Dakota
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11/01/2003
14:59:19
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getting ready to change the T-stat and man did they bury that thing then put it in a hole so grease and crap is all over it and i need a flashlight to see it in broad daylight.
Checked my Honda's to see how thers is and man they are right there and clean as can be.
God I wish Honda would make a middle size pick up. Daks are a high maintence item. Always something breakin or leakin
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