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Sledge
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10/18/2003
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Well I'm ramping up my search for a Muffler on my:
03 Dakota V6 3.9L CC SXT 4X4
I have a homebrew intake with K&N
and a few other common mods.
I'm looking to balance out the "In/Out" and was told the Muffler is the next logical step (with upgraded TB as 2nd in line)
I am debating between:
Flowmaster 70 Series #52571
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Gibson #16590 (Alum) or #616590 (Stainless Steel)
I will be Keeping All Stock Pipes and am just looking for a replacement muffler.
I don't want: Ricer or Obnixious sound. Just a bit more balance in the system and maybe some added rumble. As well as hopefully a bit more off the line kick (just a tad, don't need to cook the tires off it)
Anyone have any tips/ideas?
Thanks
Sledge
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dynomax
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2003
02:23:18
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get dynomax superturbo it will be just what your looking for ...sounds great at idle, when you open it up you will notice its there, and while cruzing it sounds stock. no renosince at all
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ryan
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2003
22:35:01
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yeah, get a dynomax if you want to buy a new muffler in 20,000 miles when the fiberglass packing burns out
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NOSDART68
Dodge Dakota
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10/20/2003
21:54:14
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I have the 70 series with no cat and I like it, but it's pretty quiet with the cat. When I had the cat on it, it didn't sound quite as loud and ricey, but still sounded good. It is a direct replacement though, which makes it a nice cheap mod. I like mine, but there is probably better mufflers out there. Just my .02
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Sledge
Dodge Dakota
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10/21/2003
10:16:57
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NOSDART68:
" I like mine, but there is probably better mufflers out there."
Any Suggestion as to what those Better Mufflers May be?
Thanks
Sledge
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Muffler gut
Dodge Dakota
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10/21/2003
10:37:52
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Sledge, I weld up mufflers for a living and can tell you that the only people that down a flowmaster is the ones that have not tried it. A flowmaters has a one of a kind rumble to it that you can tell right a way. If you go with the flowmaster then you will be happy. I would also like to say that there is other good mufflers out there on the market. Hooker makes a good deep sounding muffler as well as Dynomax. I think Gibson is below Flowmaster, Hooker and Dynomax and cost to much.
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akhoury28
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
00:12:31
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i have a magnaflow muffler on my 02 dakota slt standard cab and its great. its sound nice. not to loud but you can notice that its there. i paid 150 for it installed with a chrome tip. its a great deal.
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Sledge
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10/22/2003
10:19:35
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Muffler gut:
Thanks for the input. I've heard varying stories about how those Flowmasters hold up. You have any professional insight?
Also what if I used some undercoating on it as most cars/trucks now do to their mufflers??
I traded in a 96 Sebring for my Dak and never replaced one part of the Exhaust System on an 8 year old car because of the undercoating!
Sledge
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Muffler gut
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
15:46:12
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I also have heard stories about the flowmaster quailty but if you get 409 Stainless Steel, you will never have to worry about a thing. I never seen one my self that did not hold up but there is some out there. All I do to ensure the exhaust will last a long time is, put a good coating of high quailty paint where my welds are. Other than that, it should last a long time.
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NOSDART68
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10/22/2003
20:01:05
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I don't really know what muffler sounds better over my flowmaster because I have nothing to compare it to. However, when I installed my 70, just for fun i put on a 40 I had laying around and it sounded like SH*T! With my 70 series on, I had a guy ask me at a gas station if it was a v8. I'd say it is probably as close to a v8 sound as you can get for a v6. It's not noisy in the cab either. You really can't go wrong with getting a Flowmaster. After all, it's less than a $100 out the door.
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ryan
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
23:10:03
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would the flowmaster 50 delta flow be too loud, or is the 70 series closer to a real v8 sound. which helps performance more?
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NOSDART68
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10/24/2003
19:24:07
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I wish I could tell you for sure which is better. In my experience, Flowmasters sound good just about every series. The 70's are not loud, but I don't know if you want it loud or not so I can't for sure tell you what to get. When I tried the 40's it had a lot more "whind...popopopop" noise to it and sounded more ricey.
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J and J Auto
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10/24/2003
19:42:07
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The flowmaster 50 is almost the identical sound
as a dynomax just slightly deeper.
Low tone at low rpm & idle
quite while crusing
can hear it rap when you get on it over 2000 rpm
The 40 is a loud muff if you like loud.
70 would be same as stock sound with a little less
restriction.
The magnaflow is just a little louder than the
dyno or flowmaster, not much same charecteristics
through the rpm range
You can run a factory tail pipe or just a turn down
in the end of the muff will give you a deeper sound
Hope that helps
Larry
J&J Auto
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david161
Dodge Dakota
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10/24/2003
23:04:50
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J&J "larry" are you talking about a 50 series delta or one of them SUV 50's.
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Sledge
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2003
10:47:14
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Larry/others:
Very Good. I think I'll shoot to do a 70 Series, the Stock muffler sounds pretty good anyway, but to ease up on the restriction is what I'm shooting for.
Even stock when I pulled up the driveway when a buddy came out from NY to see me he said "Man the exhaust sounds nice" I think the Flowmaster 70 is exactly what I'm looking for!
Sledge
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